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liberalmediaaddict

(797 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:49 PM Mar 2022

Violence is unacceptable. Period.

If someone insults someone you care about in public you can boo, get upset and have a talk with the person afterwards in private.

What you can't do is go over and hit the person.

Ordinary people who do that get expelled, fired, ejected, arrested, etc...

Using violence to resolve conflict has become way too common in our gun obsessed country.

Lastly a lot of survivors of physical and verbal abuse like myself were triggered by everything Will Smith did last night: the violent outburst, the yelling profanity and blame the victim excuses afterwards. A lot of us had flashbacks to abusers who've done the same thing and also not been held accountable. Violence is never justified in domestic disputes. Period.




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Violence is unacceptable. Period. (Original Post) liberalmediaaddict Mar 2022 OP
Yes SoCalDavidS Mar 2022 #1
The Academy supposedly has a zero tolerance JenniferJuniper Mar 2022 #2
If a stranger had made their way in and punched Rock...n/t leftstreet Mar 2022 #4
Obviously, the Academy DOES NOT HAVE a zero tolerance policy against violence. Raster Mar 2022 #5
Smith is having an emotional / mental breakdown. That should factor. nt LexVegas Mar 2022 #3
Is he? I hadn't heard that... dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #7
Sure seems like it. If you watch him during and immediately after the joke, he was laughing BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #10
Thats why I have mixed feelings about the incident. TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #13
If he was that unstable, he should have stayed home. tinrobot Mar 2022 #14
Or possibly just plain drunk Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #19
So is he going to be placed in a conservatorship SoonerPride Mar 2022 #26
Nah Lunabell Mar 2022 #6
Nah. You can't even hit a NAZI, but I would be hard pressed to harshly criticize someone who did. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2022 #9
Well, there is the phrase, "the only good nazi is a dead Nazi". That was from WWII, but madinmaryland Mar 2022 #21
I firmly believe in this. The Grand Illuminist Mar 2022 #8
It's also illegal last time I checked liberalmediaaddict Mar 2022 #12
He was arrested for aggravated assault in 1989 The Grand Illuminist Mar 2022 #15
Yeah, Smith had 40 lbs on Rock. Don't believe for a second Smith slaps Dave Chapple who is swolte uponit7771 Mar 2022 #24
I thought this OP might be about the war in Ukraine, panader0 Mar 2022 #11
Indeed. The placement and investment of passion can be telling Torchlight Mar 2022 #17
Verbal abuse is also unacceptable. Period. pinkstarburst Mar 2022 #16
Comparing Jada to an athletic badass Demi More is "verbal abuse" ?! I'm not getting this at all .. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #22
I disagree. NutmegYankee Mar 2022 #18
To me what's insane is the media referring to it as a "slap". Initech Mar 2022 #20
+1, we all saw Smith LAUGHING too !! Now people are trying to gas light and say he didn't get the uponit7771 Mar 2022 #23
If that's a blanket statement its absurd, violence is perfectly acceptable under some circumstances. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #25

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. Yes
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:56 PM
Mar 2022

He could have said Everything he said after the incident. Going up on the stage, and hitting Chris, was unacceptable.

His violence actually made Chris become a victim, rather than if he had yelled out what he did, and made him look like an Ass for making that joke.

So now we end up with a situation where there's plenty of blame to go around.

JenniferJuniper

(4,517 posts)
2. The Academy supposedly has a zero tolerance
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:25 PM
Mar 2022

policy against violence.

Smith needs to be kicked out now. Send a message to everyone.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Obviously, the Academy DOES NOT HAVE a zero tolerance policy against violence.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

If they did, Smith* would have been immediately escorted out the door and removed from the premises, nomination or not.

The Academy just showed that some persons are above the law.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
7. Is he? I hadn't heard that...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:40 PM
Mar 2022

From what I read this morning, he was out partying last night, laughing & "clinking" Oscars with other winners ( like "cheers" ). Doesn't sound like he was too broken up to me.



 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. Sure seems like it. If you watch him during and immediately after the joke, he was laughing
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:44 PM
Mar 2022

happily. Then he apparently noticed Jada wasn’t too pleased, and he just snapped.

The slap and then the ridiculous screaming afterwards showed a man not in control of himself.

TheRealNorth

(9,507 posts)
13. Thats why I have mixed feelings about the incident.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:04 PM
Mar 2022

Don't get me wrong- Smith should be punished for hitting Chris Rock. But if some guy was belittling my wife, or kid, or mother in a way that upset them, I might give that guy ONE chance to apologize before I smack him across the face.

madinmaryland

(64,934 posts)
21. Well, there is the phrase, "the only good nazi is a dead Nazi". That was from WWII, but
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:56 PM
Mar 2022

Remained for many years.

liberalmediaaddict

(797 posts)
12. It's also illegal last time I checked
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:34 PM
Mar 2022

Just shows rich celebrities operate under a different set of rules.

I guarantee this wasn't the first time Will Smith has become violent or verbally abusive towards someone who upset him. And unfortunately it won't be the last. Not unless there's consequences and he gets professional help.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,347 posts)
15. He was arrested for aggravated assault in 1989
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:30 PM
Mar 2022

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panader0

(25,816 posts)
11. I thought this OP might be about the war in Ukraine,
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:46 PM
Mar 2022

you know, where innocent people are being murdered. But no, just another post about
a comedian getting a slap.....sigh.

Torchlight

(3,521 posts)
17. Indeed. The placement and investment of passion can be telling
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:38 PM
Mar 2022

Often, enough for a story in and of itself.

pinkstarburst

(1,329 posts)
16. Verbal abuse is also unacceptable. Period.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:36 PM
Mar 2022

I don't see anyone excusing physical violence. I do see a disappointing number of people who are dismissing and downplaying what was done to Jada Pinkett Smith.

The old "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me" is outdated thinking. Words CAN and DO cause real harm.

Why has Chris Rock still not apologized for his actions?

NutmegYankee

(16,212 posts)
18. I disagree.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:41 PM
Mar 2022

As a fat nerdy kid, I was bullied nonstop for years. My parents talking with school administrators (both came to Principal’s Office to complain) and even taking some of the perpetrators to court for assault did not end it. It ended one day when years of rage finally vented out in one brutal violent event where I nearly beat my tormentor unconscious. A friend of that kid then decided to attack me a week later and I threw him head first into the street and probably in hind sight gave him a concussion. I never was bullied again though and luckily faced no legal consequences. City police had extensive records documenting that I was bullied, so even if a complaint was filed, they clearly took no action.

Sometimes violence is the answer.

That said, it has its place, and Will Smith was completely in the wrong.

Initech

(100,186 posts)
20. To me what's insane is the media referring to it as a "slap".
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:47 PM
Mar 2022

It totally minimizes what Will Smith did. Chris Rock got punched in the face. We all saw it, you don't need to minimize it.

uponit7771

(90,380 posts)
23. +1, we all saw Smith LAUGHING too !! Now people are trying to gas light and say he didn't get the
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:20 PM
Mar 2022

... joke at first.

Naw, his reaction was completely bullshit

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