Quinnipac poll says majority of Democrats would leave country in case of Invasion not stay and fight

[Eko]

Some interesting things here.



Mainly I think that we are a majority of the party of peace and not fighting. That has its pros and cons of course. This poll doesn't distress me at all but it is interesting. Feel free to share your thoughts.
Eko.

Forgot to add link to the poll, apologies.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. I think polls with these questions are generally useless because it's next to impossible to

imagine what an invasion such that "staying or leaving" would be like. Very, very few of us have ever experienced anything like it, and I find it unrealistic that people could accurately determine what their path of action might be.

[Eko]

3. Thanks,

I think that applies to the "stay and fight" and "Leave" side. Plenty of repubs are full of bluster and would prob run at the first chance.

[elleng]

2. Because most of us don't have guns???

[Eko]

4. Great point!

[NickB79]

8. Lol, no

A LOT of Democrats have guns, and know how to use them. Women and POC have been the fastest growing gun owners in the past few years.

We just don't brag about it constantly like Republicans.

[Eko]

11. A lot do but by percentage Democrats have way less.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

[NickB79]

5. And go where?

If a country was strong enough to get boots on the ground in the US, where else do you think you'd be safe in the world?

It distresses the hell out of me. If you can't even fight for your home, what kind of citizen are you?

[blm]

6. Most women are Democrats.

[Quixote1818]

20. Bingo. I was going to point out the same thing. Not that plenty of women would not fight

but men are going to tend to be more "macho" with a question like this.

[Kaleva]

28. Majority of white women vote R

[blm]

37. True, but majority of WOMEN are Democrats.

So, since majority of Democrats are women, then it stands to reason that they would be seeking safety for their children and families as many men stayed to fight.

If you don’t consider that crucial aspect you could be easily led by the headlines to believe Democratic men are less willing to fight an invasion by hostile forces as Republican men.

I am not going to give Republicans I know, in general, to be cowardly bastards any edge in the bravery column they don’t deserve.

Your mileage may vary.

[Wednesdays]

7. Note that those responding "Leave the country" skews

towards young women. IOW, young mothers with children, who, like their Ukrainian counterparts, would flee in order to get their children to safety.

[SmallFry]

9. This Democrat hopes to never find out.

I did stand strong when traitors recently invaded the Capitol. My Facebook post would have impressed the greatest of warriors. 🤣

[Eko]

13. Same here.

[niyad]

14. Welcome to our DU family.

[delisen]

10. Majority of Democrats are women and more likely to be responsible for children.nt

[NutmegYankee]

18. That's how I see the results.

[dweller]

12. I suspect we'd all be vaporized

in nuclear destruction … why no repugs ?
Perhaps they’d know in advance and desert ahead of time



✌🏻

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. Not this Democrat,

I may be old and not able to move quite as quickly as I could in my earlier years, but I would stay and fight and fulfill the Marine motto,
Once a Marine, Always a Marine.

Semper Fi.

[albacore]

16. Too many variables...

Rural tends Repub.... less chance of actually becoming a target. Easy to talk big when you are in East Bumfuck, Nebraska.

Cities are Dem... and prime targets, with no place to hide. Look at what's happening in Ukraine.

And anybody who talks about "staying and fighting" might be the first one who runs like a bunny when the shit starts. We won't know until/unless it happens.
Polls like this are bullshit.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. Well, considering that I've already faced combat and didn't run,

then I think it's safe to say that I would stay and fight.

[albacore]

41. Me, too. But... that was then. Now? I'm 78. Shit... I COULDN'T run, so I'd have to fight.

I'm talking about the wanna-be's. The ones who watched "Wolverines" 5 times and know they are badass.

[Midnight Writer]

17. How is TFG and Co. supposed to answer this? "Stay and collaborate with the enemy" is not listed.

[DavidDvorkin]

19. Republicans might SAY they would stay and fight

But I doubt if they would if it actually happened. Trump talked big, too -- for example, saying that he would have run toward the school shooting in heroic fashion.

[Oneironaut]

21. So, Democrats are less likely to lie?

No one knows how they would react in that situation, so the poll is kind of pointless, imo.

[Hoyt]

22. Just can't believe that. Whata they gonna do? Move to Mexico. Canada won't have us.

Some folks didn’t get the question, or something.

[bullimiami]

23. Thy can shove their twisted poll where the sun don't shine.

[quickesst]

24. I won't be going anywhere....

I don't believe Russia would have invaded Ukraine if they had the military might, which includes military bases, the Marines, Infantry, Air Force capability, and the naval resources of, well....Texas.

This is not to mention every other state. Hell, I live two miles down the road from an Air Force Base in Louisiana.

[ecstatic]

25. Sounds like bullshit to me. At first I wondered about it,

because I wasn't sure but friends of mine said they'd accept any guns offered and fight. Just imagine if it was China or Russia invading. Would we want to live under their rule? I don't think so. The system we have now is fucked up in a lot of ways, but it's our country. Our fucked up country. Lol.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

26. Admiral Yamamoto, "A rifle behind every blade of grass", Red Dawn! Wolverines!

[ck4829]

27. There's a reason why Russia is not sanctioning any Republicans. "Stay and fight" has other meanings

If Russia were to invade, we'd be fighting a two-front war.

[Kaleva]

29. There is no plausible answer to a situation that can't happen

Like asking "What would you do if you discovered that there was 10 pounds of gold up in your ass?".

[JI7]

30. Most of those saying they will stay and Fight are people like Trump . Anyone can SAY ANYTHING

it's easy to claim you would fight and whatever without being in that situation .

Didn't Trump say about some school shooting that he would have gone in and confronted the shooter himself ?

Does anyone believe this piece of shit would actually ever do this ?

[taxi]

31. Fear not, more than half of our neighbors say they are willing to fight to protect democracy

“Back where I come from we have men who are called heroes. Once a year they take their fortitude out of mothballs and they parade it down the main street and they have no more courage than you have.”

http://cultivatecourage.com/3-lessons-on-courage-from-the-wizard-of-oz/

emphasis mine - It appears we live among the bravest of the brave.

[Tree Lady]

32. It was a weird poll I have been doing surveys for years

And the questions were asked what would you do. I said I was too old to fight. But I didn't say I would leave the country.

[ck4829]

33. We're told "there's nothing we can do" about Trump, Flynn, Thomas, Greene, Cawthorn, etc.

But there’s something we can do about Russians?

[Emile]

34. I would grab my granddaughters and go to Canada!

[Hortensis]

35. Many strong conservatives would find it much easier to accept

and collude with an imposed authoritarian state than fight. France's Vichy government chose to use Germany's help to impose their strong conservatism on a nation that rejected it. We see the same deal-with-Satan attitude here among radicalized types who'll do anything and betray all to get their way.

Fight schmight. Most of the trumpists, and some of the far left, would see invasion as a way to finally get rid of liberals/Democrats -- and Putin and subversive domestic leaders would work hard to make that happen. Those people (famously) don't know themselves.

Although I don't doubt some on the left would run if they could (can't expect people who don't know why they should vote for their liberal democracy to have the commitment to fight), I suspect these figures are affected by rejection of living under a repressive, anti-democracy regime.

[Happy Hoosier]

38. I'd expect my wife and daughter to leave.

Neither would be up for fighting, though might want to help with humanitarian efforts.

I'd be willing to fight, though my broken, old ass might not be of much use. I can shoot straight and have a decent handle on tactics, but I have lots repairs and not sure how I'd do in the field for very long!

[lagomorph777]

39. Russia invaded us in 2016 and installed a puppet government.

We stayed and fought. And like Ukraine, we are winning.

[darosky]

40. I have 2 kids. Saving their lives comes first

I can't fight nukes with a rifle.

[Mad_Machine76]

42. Where would we go though?

I'm sure as hell staying and fighting. And frankly, unless it's an invasion by massively technologically superior forces capable of mass destruction (i.e. aliens?), I question how somebody could successfully invade and occupy such a large swath of territory such as the United States.