Opinion: Withdrawal is no longer sufficient

[pecosbob]

There are an increasing number of reports of horrific war crimes committed by Russian troops in Ukraine in the last couple of days...rape, mass executions and burial. If these reports are verified, sanctions should be left in place until Putin is handed over for prosecution.

[lapfog_1]

1. Putin, his cronies, and any officer that was in charge of the units that committed war crimes.

Even should Putin eventually win in Ukraine, all he has done is created a population of at least 10M terrorists who will hate all Russians for decades, possibly generations.

[COL Mustard]

11. I've never been to Russia or to Ukraine

But I’m damn sure starting to hate the Russians.

[smirkymonkey]

18. Same here.

They have always seemed a bit brutal, cold and heartless to me, but now I am beginning to genuinely hate them.

[Justice matters.]

14. putler cannot ever "win" in Ukraine.

Any hypothetical Russian occupation would only get non-stop resistance from the Ukrainian population.

For just one example: Ukraine invasion: Secret ‘punishment from above’ drone army taking on Russia

Hidden in a secret location in Ukraine, novice pilots are creating a deadly drone army they’ve dubbed the “punishment from above”.

At a secret location in Ukrainian city of Lviv, the windows taped up to ward off unwanted attention, underground hobbyists improvise deadly drones bound for the front line of the war against Russia.

On a cluttered table the X-shaped frame of one drone stands among bundles of plastic propellers and sachets of minuscule screws.

Soon it will take flight with its payload: a wine bottle-sized antitank grenade designed to plunge on Russian armour.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/ukraine-invasion-secret-punishment-from-above-drone-army-taking-on-russia/news-story/2bd76c429c7781a1efd7739f2c42a814

[dchill]

2. The ones actually committing the atrocities...

... don't get off scot-free, either. This is no "war." This is ongoing genocide.

[Duppers]

9. Indeed!

TY.

[Hoyt]

3. Any invasion creates war crimes. I'll be satified to see Putin withdraw in utter defeat.

[reACTIONary]

15. +10 nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

19. Russia owes a minimum of

half a trillion dollars to UKR just for the material damage. Restitution is really required, IMO.

[Hoyt]

20. OK, you want them to keep bombing until they come up with the money?

[RockRaven]

4. All of those enlisted/conscripted shits doing the killing and raping need prosecuting too.

Handing Putin over would not be sufficient either.

[RainCaster]

5. Justice, reparations, and repairs

All must be paid for by Putin and his band of merry profiteers.

[Wounded Bear]

6. A cease fire and withdrawal are just the start...

They need repatriation of people forcibly extradited and reparations for the damages.

Sanctions stay until all are fulfilled.

[Duppers]

8. Absolutely!

Bravo❗

[Hoyt]

22. I'm for getting Russian troops out before threatening reparations, etc.

Killing needs to stop before we get giddy and demand reparations, etc.

[Wounded Bear]

25. That's why cease fire and WITHDRAWAL are the start of ending this atrocity...nt

[DanieRains]

7. And Rapes Of Children

Executions.

Anyone helping Russia should be held to account.

Regardless.

[Rebl2]

16. Any American

business still there, should be held accountable. Number one Koch industry.

[paleotn]

10. Absolutely not sufficient....

The Russians destroyed much of a free, democratic republic. Raped and murdered its citizens. Sanctions cannot be lifted anytime soon. In fact, they must be tightened until Russia comes to its senses. Putin and members of his military and intel service brought to justice. And frozen assets confiscated and used to rebuild Ukraine. Not only state assets. The oligarchs kept Putin in power. They are culpable and must also pay the price.

[gaskinite]

12. It's time to launch a missile

The target coordinates should be Putin’s gooch.

[yaesu]

13. Plus russia must pay full reparations & leave all lands illegally occupied. nt

[Septua]

17. Who's going to hand him over?

He's an evil son of Satin but ain't nobody gonna' get him for war crimes anytime soon...unless his own people do it.

Investigators will look at past and present allegations - going back as far as 2013, before Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

If there's evidence, the prosecutor will ask ICC judges to issue arrest warrants to bring individuals to trial in The Hague.

But there are practical limitations to its power. The court doesn't have its own police force so relies on individual states to arrest suspects.

Like the US, Russia is not a member of the court - it pulled out in 2016. President Putin won't extradite any suspects.

If a suspect went to another country, they could be arrested - but that's a very big if.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60690688

[pecosbob]

21. ay, there's the rub

The Russian people have to make it happen.

[lagomorph777]

23. If they want to eat, or have a rouble to their name,

they'll have to do it. We'll keep tightening the screws until they do it.

[Scrivener7]

24. I was just thinking the same thing. Thanks for saying it.

[Initech]

26. I'm not a violent person by any means, but Putin needs to be bombed back to the stone ages.