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I Am Sure The People Of Russia Won't Complain If Someone Treats Them Like Their Soldiers Treat (Original Post) DanieRains Apr 2022 OP
This could be interesting sarisataka Apr 2022 #1
Would never happen Arazi Apr 2022 #2
Azov Battalion are literal neo-nazis so I'm sure they would be willing. TheAverageDUer Apr 2022 #3
From what I've read, there's a minimum number of neo-Nazis left in that unit Arazi Apr 2022 #6
It's a difficult question... regnaD kciN Apr 2022 #11
Are you a member? johnp3907 Apr 2022 #7
Got my letterman jacket yesterday! TheAverageDUer Apr 2022 #8
Since you said they are neo-nazi and you got your letterman jacket AZLD4Candidate Apr 2022 #9
Neo-nazis taking cues from Putin's army? Beastly Boy Apr 2022 #10
I can imagine some actions being carried out in Russia Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #4
good bye enid602 Apr 2022 #5
If they are so inclined, the perfect time is NOW! FakeNoose Apr 2022 #12
No clue what that means. Igel Apr 2022 #14
...and hello to our new number-one enemy, China! regnaD kciN Apr 2022 #13
And China will be better boogeyman because they aren't white, aren't Christian AZLD4Candidate Apr 2022 #15

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
2. Would never happen
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 05:07 PM
Apr 2022

I don’t think Ukrainians are sociopaths.

And they don’t have a delusional leader urging genocide

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
6. From what I've read, there's a minimum number of neo-Nazis left in that unit
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 05:19 PM
Apr 2022

Current estimates are 1% or so.

When they were allowed to become a part of the Ukrainian Army, a substantial number were purged.

Like the US military, there’s definitely a percentage of white supremacists infesting the ranks but it would be wrong to say they’re some kind of majority.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
11. It's a difficult question...
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 06:15 PM
Apr 2022

The Azov Movement is full-on white supremacist neo-Nazi. A few years ago, the paramilitary wing split from the political movement and were incorporated into the National Guard. How much they have been purged of Nazis is hard to tell, although I think that the most hard-core anti-Semites would have a hard time joining the Guard, and thus following the orders of a Jewish president. I certainly don't trust them as far as I can throw them, but they are a quite small piece of the armed forces as a whole (just as the Azov Movement's political wing only got about 2.51% of the vote in the 2019 election), and are definitely being used by Russian propaganda to frame all of Ukraine as Nazi.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,774 posts)
9. Since you said they are neo-nazi and you got your letterman jacket
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 06:07 PM
Apr 2022

Simple inverse logic learning in algebra (if this than that), that means if they are neo-nazi and you have the letterman jacket, you are admitting your are a neo-nazi.

Is this a correct assumption?

Beastly Boy

(9,461 posts)
10. Neo-nazis taking cues from Putin's army?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 06:11 PM
Apr 2022

I don't think "denazification" means what Uncle Vlad thinks it means.

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
4. I can imagine some actions being carried out in Russia
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 05:15 PM
Apr 2022

by people who have lost everything, and are out for revenge.

Won't have any connection to the Ukrainian government or military. Just desperate people with nothing left to lose and unlimited access to mines and munitions.

People in Russia may be in for a world of well deserved blowback.

enid602

(8,658 posts)
5. good bye
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 05:16 PM
Apr 2022

I think the probable and total dissolution of the 1000 year old Russian Empire will be payment enough. Can’t wait until all the other territories of the Russian Federation decide that now is the time ‘to pull a Ukraine.’ And while the Russian Armed Forces are facing these threats, China will annex the resource rich Eastern Russia and Siberia. Say goodbye to Russia.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
12. If they are so inclined, the perfect time is NOW!
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 06:17 PM
Apr 2022

Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and probably most of the former Iron Curtain countries. Time to get their sucker punches in, while they are on their knees.

China has nothing to gain by helping out Russia, they aren't even allies any more.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
14. No clue what that means.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:26 PM
Apr 2022

Don't know that I really want to know.

The problem is that the "1000-year" (let's think "Reich" here, why don't we?) was strange. Siberia was late. Kazan' was fairly late.

L'vov was much, much later.

And then it goes historical. When Moscow was Baltic Kiev was flourishing. Yes, Balts had settled that part of eastern Europe. Slavs purged/assimilated Baltic tribes.

Every time I hear Putin say, "Kiev is our heart" I think, "Kiev is the heart, and Moscow is the little toe. Kiev should claim *you*, vassal."

At this point, if not too many people died, I'd find it amusing if Kiev re-claimed Moscow as one of its provinces. It should make Putin smile, because, after all, the heart and core of Russian existence was *KIEVAN* Rus'.

What does "too many people" mean? It's la-la-land talk. I think too many have died, but part of me (the part I don't like) wants as many Muscovites to die as Ukrainians, and St. Basil's to be rubble--as for the abomination across the Moskva from the Kreml'? Make it a swimming pool ... again.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
13. ...and hello to our new number-one enemy, China!
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 06:17 PM
Apr 2022

If they grab that area, you can count on them becoming the new bogeyman.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,774 posts)
15. And China will be better boogeyman because they aren't white, aren't Christian
Wed Apr 13, 2022, 02:55 PM
Apr 2022

and people think they are mysterious and mystical.

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