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Remember when we called it "THE Ukraine" (Original Post) cilla4progress Apr 2022 OP
Remember when the world wasn't paying attention in 2014? OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2022 #1
I highly respected him during Trump's years-- I am beyond adoring him now. Amazing guy, hlthe2b Apr 2022 #5
I remember those of us who didn't call it that. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #2
I knew better, but I'm glad we've brought many more along. hlthe2b Apr 2022 #6
True. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #9
WE? Not me. HUAJIAO Apr 2022 #3
no Skittles Apr 2022 #4
Considering my mom's from Kyiv, VWolf Apr 2022 #7
I think it stems from this: El Supremo Apr 2022 #8
That's Richard Simmons! (no relation) PSPS Apr 2022 #12
Remember when Kyiv was often spelled Kiev Clash City Rocker Apr 2022 #10
A holdover from the USSR days when it was referred to as "The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic" PSPS Apr 2022 #11
I remember when we called Bronx N.Y. "the Bronx". marybourg Apr 2022 #13
Because "the Bronx" is an area/region of another place. W_HAMILTON Apr 2022 #15
Not "the Bronx." It's properly pronounced "de Bronx." Earth-shine Apr 2022 #19
I beg to differ, that's spelled "da Bronx" :) FreepFryer Apr 2022 #20
I'm from Brooklyn. We spell it "de Bronx" because ... Earth-shine Apr 2022 #23
Well maybe when they finally fix BK's subways from Hurricane Sandy you can come up for a chat FreepFryer Apr 2022 #24
"maybe a tussle and some dirty water dogs by the bridge. " Earth-shine Apr 2022 #25
Sonny? Is that you? You still owe me money (Nt) FreepFryer Apr 2022 #26
Is it not called "the Bronx" anymore? smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #22
I didn't know any better but as soon as I found out Raine Apr 2022 #14
Maybe you did, i haven't for 20 years obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #16
I remember Chicken Kiev. kentuck Apr 2022 #17
lol 😆 😆 😆 nt Tickle Apr 2022 #18
On the RISK board it's just 'Ukraine' but you can't hold it long enough for 7 armies! (Nt) FreepFryer Apr 2022 #21

hlthe2b

(102,419 posts)
5. I highly respected him during Trump's years-- I am beyond adoring him now. Amazing guy,
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:54 PM
Apr 2022

The man for the time.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
2. I remember those of us who didn't call it that.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 09:48 PM
Apr 2022

And being snarked when we pointed out the correct term.

Oh yeah, I remember.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
8. I think it stems from this:
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:01 PM
Apr 2022


But I just saw a Ukrainian call it "THE Ukraine" on the TeeVee. I think he just goofed up.

Clash City Rocker

(3,402 posts)
10. Remember when Kyiv was often spelled Kiev
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 10:18 PM
Apr 2022

And pronounced differently?

In case anyone wondered about the name change, essentially, Kyiv is the Ukrainian name, Kiev the Russian name. As part of a concerted campaign, Ukraine is gradually eliminating the Russian version of the name. Good for them, I say.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev#:~:text=In%20June%202019%2C%20at%20the,federal%20government%20of%20the%20United

W_HAMILTON

(7,876 posts)
15. Because "the Bronx" is an area/region of another place.
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 05:05 AM
Apr 2022

Just like "the Northeast" is an area/region of the United States.

And that is exactly why "the Ukraine" is incorrect, because it is a holdover from Soviet times, when the Soviets considered "the Ukraine" an area/region under their possession. It's why people like Putin and other Russians still refer to it as "the Ukraine," because it implies it is simply an area/region that they control rather than the sovereign and independent nation that it is today.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. I'm from Brooklyn. We spell it "de Bronx" because ...
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 07:52 AM
Apr 2022

we really don't care, or for that matter actually, go there.

I'm willing to fight about this, even though I'm obviously wrong.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
24. Well maybe when they finally fix BK's subways from Hurricane Sandy you can come up for a chat
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 07:56 AM
Apr 2022

Little stickball, maybe a tussle and some dirty water dogs by the bridge.

“Fuggedaboutit,” you say?

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
25. "maybe a tussle and some dirty water dogs by the bridge. "
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 07:59 AM
Apr 2022

I have no idea what these things are.

Stickball disappeared when I was about 10.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Is it not called "the Bronx" anymore?
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 07:51 AM
Apr 2022

I am a native NYer and I lived in NYC for years, and I honestly don't remember how I referred to it. I only went there to the Zoo when I lived there. Oh, and Arthur Avenue for Italian food, but that's it. I think we did call it "the Bronx", but I am not sure.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
17. I remember Chicken Kiev.
Sat Apr 16, 2022, 07:30 AM
Apr 2022

But I do not recall them wanting to be called "The Ukraine" since they became independent from the old Soviet Union.

But I do think most Russians view Ukraine as their "breadbasket" and still a part of Russia.

(Although some of us were still in the habit of calling it that until recently)

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