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edhopper

(33,580 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:12 AM Apr 2022

It's funny how Jared's $2 billion bribe from the Saudis,

Hasn't gotten half the attention as Hunter's laptop by the MSM.
And given that Jared was the official Middle East Envoy, and Hunter a private citizen, it's that much more glaringly shameful.

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It's funny how Jared's $2 billion bribe from the Saudis, (Original Post) edhopper Apr 2022 OP
Must have a horse race... Hugin Apr 2022 #1
Nailed it. underpants Apr 2022 #5
That's why they do election coverage like they do. calimary Apr 2022 #37
+1, there's no doubt something amis uponit7771 Apr 2022 #54
If Putin fails to put Trump back in Turbineguy Apr 2022 #2
They are paying him back edhopper Apr 2022 #40
It's OK. He's a Republican. Achilleaze Apr 2022 #3
media wants tfg back. spanone Apr 2022 #4
Yeah, they make alot more money off the trump trainwreck. Ilsa Apr 2022 #18
+1000... llmart Apr 2022 #31
Desperately! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Apr 2022 #45
The same goes for his father-in-law's classified document theft. GoCubsGo Apr 2022 #6
Wonder if trump copied and sold the classified... brush Apr 2022 #10
That is edhopper Apr 2022 #13
They had plenty of time to make copies ... aggiesal Apr 2022 #15
Yep. What's to negotiate? It's government property... brush Apr 2022 #16
"after months of negotiations" KS Toronado Apr 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #35
Used to be stealing was a crime. Jetheels Apr 2022 #22
This country is truly broken HighFired49 Apr 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author HighFired49 Apr 2022 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #49
its disgusting samsingh Apr 2022 #7
Money talks...... blueinredohio Apr 2022 #8
Three questions for MAGAts raising laptop issue. (four in total) Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #9
Good. Very good. brush Apr 2022 #11
+100...n/t bluecollar2 Apr 2022 #26
You got their response down pat! "What are you talking about?" erronis Apr 2022 #32
The problem with your questions is that, if you are a MAGAT, you are not concerned about Chainfire Apr 2022 #38
Problem is they do NOT believe that Kushner was bought karynnj Apr 2022 #41
The media is owned and gets most advertising revenue from Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #12
Great post. The rich don't hate the middle/lower classes - they just don't want to be touched. erronis Apr 2022 #33
Plus there is the Mercer family. raging moderate Apr 2022 #44
Well, remember that the 'middle class' is presented as having that slim chance of becoming OldBaldy1701E Apr 2022 #46
Thank you for that post. True Blue American Apr 2022 #58
To be accurate, we do NOT control all 3 branches of government Wednesdays Apr 2022 #60
I was referring to the House, Senate and Presidency. True Blue American Apr 2022 #61
That is good to hear Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #62
I know Stephanie Ruhle has talked about it on the 11th Hour extensively ... aggiesal Apr 2022 #14
Warnock made over $13 million in the 1st quarter. But MSM chooses to boast about Walker. LogicFirst Apr 2022 #17
"made" is Wrong word. "raised". Please don't insinuate Warnock is a grifter, please edit error. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #42
Since Squeaky is now more wealthy Aviation Pro Apr 2022 #19
For accuracy he doesn't get the $ 2 billion but a percent for managing it grantcart Apr 2022 #20
The media wants another Trump presidency. CrispyQ Apr 2022 #21
follow the money (and politics) of corporate media housecat Apr 2022 #25
But Saudis Y'know, hijackers, 9/11 Jetheels Apr 2022 #23
MSM types desperately wanting reich wingers to like them.... paleotn Apr 2022 #24
not surprising in RW MSM in Amerika. llashram Apr 2022 #27
The only Jared the msm will report about is the Jared from Subway commercials. Pepsidog Apr 2022 #28
Yeah, funny how that works out... Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #34
Jared Kushner? LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #50
Since Jared and Ivanka testified True Blue American Apr 2022 #63
Bribe or payoff for a copy of the classified documents TFG took to Mar-a-Lago? nt dflprincess Apr 2022 #47
K and R Stuart G Apr 2022 #51
The laptop doesn't exist.... William Gustafson Apr 2022 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #53
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #56
K&R, its the DOJ giving Hunter Biden MAGA allegations air. The M$M's tangible anti Biden bias .. uponit7771 Apr 2022 #55
The media is desensitized and hypersensitized Diraven Apr 2022 #57
Dems are treated like women and POC, repukes are treated like white men Skittles Apr 2022 #59

Hugin

(33,150 posts)
1. Must have a horse race...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:18 AM
Apr 2022

At a minimum.

It’s where they think their sugar comes from, when the truth of that is debatable. There’s plenty of non-manufactured news out there these days.

This is the central reason the system has become as broken as it is.

calimary

(81,300 posts)
37. That's why they do election coverage like they do.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:48 PM
Apr 2022

Simply MUST have a fucking “horse race”. It’s money in the bank.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. It's OK. He's a Republican.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:22 AM
Apr 2022

Republicans are special. Morals, ethics, and legality are for Little People, not for special Republicans.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. Yeah, they make alot more money off the trump trainwreck.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:23 AM
Apr 2022

Gawkers gonna gawk.
If it bleeds, it leads.

It's scary that a job as important as the presidency has been turned into a shitshow by people who don't know what decency is. And that immediate gratification is part of the disease.

I wish some degree of etiquette and values was taught in schools since so many parents are too tired to parent, or don't know it themselves.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
6. The same goes for his father-in-law's classified document theft.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:31 AM
Apr 2022

And, not just any classified documents, but ones so classified, they can't even hint at what's in them. It's funny how only a comedian (Jeff Tiedrich) has put two and two together here...

brush

(53,784 posts)
10. Wonder if trump copied and sold the classified...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM
Apr 2022

docs?

Oh, wait, it's trump. Of course he did, or at least intended to until it was discovered they were missing. That's another undeniable crime. Where's Garland on yet another trump crime?

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
15. They had plenty of time to make copies ...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:11 AM
Apr 2022
Trump turned the boxes over to the Archives earlier this year after months of negotiations involving lawyers for both camps.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/04/07/white-house-records-sent-trumps-club-could-soon-under-doj-probe/9497025002/

What was there to negotiate?
Should we send back the originals or the copies?
We'll send them back, as long as Pendejo45 isn't charged with any crime?

KS Toronado

(17,247 posts)
30. "after months of negotiations"
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:50 AM
Apr 2022

Should have been front page news for MSM, but instead we get Hunter Biden's laptop.
What's the serial # of that laptop? Has anyone checked with Apple to see who bought it
new and how in the hell Hunter got hold of it?

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Jetheels

(991 posts)
22. Used to be stealing was a crime.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:28 AM
Apr 2022

Now it’s only a crime if you sold the stolen loot.
For tfg that is.
If anyone else stole trucks full of whatever it would be a crime.
For precious tfg who everyone handles with kid gloves, nothing is a crime.
The biggest crime less crime wave in history.

HighFired49

(351 posts)
36. This country is truly broken
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:41 PM
Apr 2022

In an unbroken America with an equal and fair legal system, the Feds. would have gone to his crappy Mar-A-Shithole with a warrant, taken the documents, arrested all involved, taken their passports, and held them in jail until their trials; just like they would have done to me if I had broken a national security law. Now, the whole system is beholden to the uber-riche (or their pretenders), and they just get to walk away until...whenever...usually until they can come up with some half-baked reason or excuse as to why they should never be bothered with the issue again. I so wish that I had left this country when I was young. Now, too old and stuck here with family issues. At least, maybe I'll be able to escape to a blue state before I die.

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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
9. Three questions for MAGAts raising laptop issue. (four in total)
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:39 AM
Apr 2022

1) Would it be worse if it were 2 billion dollars instead of 2 million?

"Yes".

2) Would it be worse if it weren't a private citizen, but instead a government official?

"Yup".

3) Would it be worse if the older family member was president and not Vice President?

"For sure!".

then drop them with

4) So Jared Kushner's and tRump's deal was much much worse, right?

"What are you talking about?"

erronis

(15,286 posts)
32. You got their response down pat! "What are you talking about?"
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:16 PM
Apr 2022

Clueless MSM-uckers have been looking into their mirrors so long they don't see reality.

Chainfire

(17,542 posts)
38. The problem with your questions is that, if you are a MAGAT, you are not concerned about
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:50 PM
Apr 2022

any issue that you find the least bit uncomfortable. Logic has no place in an emotion based philosophy. It is a happy life of wearing blinders. The bottom line, all you need to know and all that matters is, "Trump good, Biden bad." K.I.S.S.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
41. Problem is they do NOT believe that Kushner was bought
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 01:01 PM
Apr 2022

They STILL believe the story that Kushner led in more achievement on "Middle east peace" than occurred for decades. After all, he opened better relationships between Israel and multiple Arab countries (although NONE were at war with Israel) and he made the core problem (Israel/Palestine) far harder to resolve ... if not impossible.

People on the right will claim that THAT was why he condoned the murder of a journalist and gave more weapons to SA and UAE - not his own financial good.

(PS Obviously even if everything had been done for "good" reason, it is STILL NOT OK to financially benefit.)

Farmer-Rick

(10,175 posts)
12. The media is owned and gets most advertising revenue from
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:53 AM
Apr 2022

People like the Koch Bros (who fund those insane Federalist Society idiots currently on the Supreme Court...oh no more floride) the Waltons (who run over people while drunk with no repurcussions and hate women especially the ones who control their own bodies) Bezos (who would turn his workers into slaves if he could get away with it) Musk (who never met a union he didn't hate and loves TFG) Gates (who met weekly with TFG and got himself a $10 million government contract for it)

And those are just off the top. I haven't gotten to Murdoch, the Gogel millionaires, Putin and the Saudis.

Why do the filthy rich hate the middle class so much? Because the rich want to rule the world and with a thriving middle class in a country it will never happen.

Anyway......these are the scum who own a pay for advertising on the corporate controlled media. So you get propaganda and stupidity but not much of anything else.

If Biden had cancelled all our pandemic response preparations right before a pandemic hit, that would be thrown in his face all the time by the media. But TFG gets to slap his anus shaped lips together constantly with no one ever asking him why.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
33. Great post. The rich don't hate the middle/lower classes - they just don't want to be touched.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 12:20 PM
Apr 2022

The 0.1% "untouchables". Behind gates and guards, on yachts and in exclusive clubs. Wealth untaxed.

The lower classes can sort it out for themselves. It'll be very messy.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,129 posts)
46. Well, remember that the 'middle class' is presented as having that slim chance of becoming
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 07:41 PM
Apr 2022

'Filthy rich'. We can't have the poors thinking they can enter the gate of the country club now can we? Plus, those in a strong middle class are not as easily swayed by the whinging of the 'elite' and are not going to allow them to just ignore the damage they do. The peons are too oppressed to do anything about it. So, they want things to go back to 'one lord, one moat' and they will stop at nothing, including our society, to get and keep things that way.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
58. Thank you for that post.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 04:27 AM
Apr 2022

We are not dead yet. We control all 3 branches of Government, no matter what the media says.

Right now it is the Russian war, except when they chime in with another made up poll where they seek the answers they want.

Everyone I know has tuned the corrupt media out. Young people do not even watch cable. They have too many sources.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
60. To be accurate, we do NOT control all 3 branches of government
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 08:50 AM
Apr 2022

If you mean "we" as in Democrats. If that's what you meant, you're living in a different universe, because the SCOTUS is stacked 6-3 against us.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
61. I was referring to the House, Senate and Presidency.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:16 AM
Apr 2022

You are quite right on the Supreme Court, thanks to the totally corrupt McConnell and Trump.

Farmer-Rick

(10,175 posts)
62. That is good to hear
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:32 AM
Apr 2022

There are real news organizations out there but you have to hunt them down. They are not on cable.

I stopped getting cable too because I never watched it.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
14. I know Stephanie Ruhle has talked about it on the 11th Hour extensively ...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
Apr 2022

I think MSNBC, as a whole as mentioned it quite a bit.
It should be on more local broadcasts.

I'm sure Faux Noise hasn't mentioned s peep.

LogicFirst

(571 posts)
17. Warnock made over $13 million in the 1st quarter. But MSM chooses to boast about Walker.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:20 AM
Apr 2022

Typical of MSM giving the attention to the republicans.

Aviation Pro

(12,170 posts)
19. Since Squeaky is now more wealthy
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:24 AM
Apr 2022

Than his broke-assed FIL, he gets a pass.

Why do you think he and Princess Sparkle Pony threw dear ole Dad under the bus?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
20. For accuracy he doesn't get the $ 2 billion but a percent for managing it
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:26 AM
Apr 2022

Around $ 2 million a month


The Saudis have a long history of legal bribery after the fact.

After senior administration officials leave an outgoing administration the Saudis use various legal avenues (mammoth speaking or book fees, like Reagan) in their retirement. All legal and declared.

It was no accident that Trump rushed to Saudi Arabia for his first foreign trip.

It appears that the Saudis don't want to give Jared a one time hit but keep him on a leash. They can cancel the arrangement anytime.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
21. The media wants another Trump presidency.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:26 AM
Apr 2022

Ratings. Think of the ratings. Two years of nasty campaigning & then four years of outrage.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
23. But Saudis Y'know, hijackers, 9/11
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:31 AM
Apr 2022

Kina off limits.
The dollar is backed by oil.
So they can do whatever.

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
24. MSM types desperately wanting reich wingers to like them....
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:35 AM
Apr 2022

and stop calling them liberal. Like that's ever going to happen no matter what MSM types say or print.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
27. not surprising in RW MSM in Amerika.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 11:44 AM
Apr 2022

free press? In Amerika? Not even close. Not with an Andrea Mitchell or a Chuck Todd spreading RW talking points on the QT and openly without shame as an alleged journalist.

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William Gustafson

(298 posts)
52. The laptop doesn't exist....
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:06 PM
Apr 2022

Nobody has ever seen the laptop.... Rudy only has a hard drive that he has copied more times that Carter has pills. When the FBI looked at a copy of the hard drive, they could tell it was a bunch of crap because the Megadata showed that a lot of the information was installed just a year and half ago.... plus, Rudy says there is child porn on this hard drive, which means, he has been copying child porn and handing it out to all his friends.... A Felony!...... Anytime a MAGAet says something about Hunters Laptop... asked the if they ever seen it... a picture, a video, anything.... and their answer will be no.... because it doesn't exist!
And as far as Jared, my only question is... who did he sell out for this money? I suspect it was all of us.

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uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
55. K&R, its the DOJ giving Hunter Biden MAGA allegations air. The M$M's tangible anti Biden bias ..
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 PM
Apr 2022

... isn't helping

Diraven

(520 posts)
57. The media is desensitized and hypersensitized
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 10:56 PM
Apr 2022

Republicans being corrupt is so common it's not even news anymore. It's expected. Especially with Trump because he and his family are "businesspeople", they are expected to try to stay rich by any means possible, corrupt or not. If getting rich hurts the country, well that's just good business. Nothing to see here.

On the other hand the news media has been so trained by right-wing pundits and shows claiming everything democrats do, often completely made up, is a major scandal, that any wrong-doing attributed to Democrats must instantly become major news, or else the RW echo chamber will beat them to the punch and blare it everywhere so it in effect becomes THE news for a lot of Americans who are in their thrall.

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