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Tommy Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:10 AM Apr 2022

I'm sorry, but as a Florida public school parent, I feel as though I must share this:

This absolutely and positively was in my children's elementary school math book, believe me and trust me because naturally you just should do that on the internet:

"Johnny--who believes that race is a social construct which historically has been used by governing powers to create an artificial hierarchy in society based solely on that race--has three apples. Kenny, who believes that the idea of "color-blindness"--while perhaps well-intentioned--has been too often been co-opted as an excuse for modern-day authorities to refuse to address historical racial injustices of the past, has two apples. How many apples would Johnny and Kenny have if they put their apples together and both agree that dominant racial groups have subconsciously created their own reality when it comes to race relations and thus are stifled in making any significant moves towards racial equity, which means racial groups are given the necessary means in order to achieve a more equal society (not to be confused with racial equality, which is merely a superficial equal distribution of such means regardless of the specified needs of any one particular group)?"

I'm sorry, but this is just not cool. Not cool at all.





(Do I even need the here?)

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I'm sorry, but as a Florida public school parent, I feel as though I must share this: (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 OP
Careful with that sarcasm exboyfil Apr 2022 #1
Careful, you could be responsible for a bogus but viral quote that could spread like wildfire. Towlie Apr 2022 #2
Not to worry!!!! MyOwnPeace Apr 2022 #3
My Thought Exactly RobinA Apr 2022 #10
Seriously, how could a math textbook contain anything a right-winger could credibly object to? Towlie Apr 2022 #4
Well, they do contain scary Arabic numerals. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #5
Exactly - the proverbial perfessor Apr 2022 #7
LOL KS Toronado Apr 2022 #24
Double on the "LOL"......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2022 #30
Works better if you you use our British 'maths' instead of math Celerity Apr 2022 #36
Yeah...time to go back to "Roman" numerals...because you know...White and all.. sdfernando Apr 2022 #20
15? Isn't XIV 14? wnylib Apr 2022 #23
Yes you are correct...see how confusing it is! /NT :) sdfernando Apr 2022 #25
I hate seeing Roman numerals on the wnylib Apr 2022 #27
An abacus should easily solve that problem mrsadm Apr 2022 #26
Besides, you can't write in abacus. wnylib Apr 2022 #28
And Geometry! I mean, wasn't Pythagoras Greek? yardwork Apr 2022 #32
Where's the gay part? I came here for the gay part. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2022 #6
Johnny and Kenny are a gay married couple. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #8
You must 'forgive'....... MyOwnPeace Apr 2022 #31
It's been suggested in other threads that the problem is the equal signs. Towlie Apr 2022 #9
Replace them with ≠, that should satisfy the racists. sop Apr 2022 #15
They'd have five apples sanatanadharma Apr 2022 #11
How many of the apples were really apples, and not oranges identifying as apples? (n/t) MissMillie Apr 2022 #12
Good catch! hedda_foil Apr 2022 #13
Bottom line. The textbooks have too many equals signs. Lucky Luciano Apr 2022 #14
Well, it didn't say gay IronLionZion Apr 2022 #16
I'm not sure about the use of "subconsciously," but it's a great piece. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2022 #17
I live in Florida Panhandle, and , yes the wingers do REALLY believe this is in the math books packman Apr 2022 #18
True tale: I was raptly reading this post, when phone rang. " Hello, this is Wanda and txwhitedove Apr 2022 #19
Minor missed opportunity. Frostlight Apr 2022 #34
Hi, Frostlight. Welcome to o DU. Actually thought I heard a crying baby and Wanda txwhitedove Apr 2022 #35
Wow, I never had any math problems like that in my math book. blueinredohio Apr 2022 #21
They will BELIEVE this. Frostlight Apr 2022 #22
Repubquanons I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #40
Well, aren't you a sight for sore eyes... Frostlight Apr 2022 #42
Ok. I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #43
I have to work up a few posts. lel. Frostlight Apr 2022 #44
HAHAHAHAHA!! Elementary school book? Warpy Apr 2022 #29
The teacher observes Johnny placing 3 white apples in his basket, NCjack Apr 2022 #33
Bottom line for this lesson: the majority of apples are NON-WHITE ! eppur_se_muova Apr 2022 #37
Wow I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #41
Ok ok; I know we're all having fun with this absurd situation... robbob Apr 2022 #38
If it has taken them this long ThoughtCriminal Apr 2022 #39
What could actually be true about this is that ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #45

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
2. Careful, you could be responsible for a bogus but viral quote that could spread like wildfire.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:13 AM
Apr 2022

 
?

(Missed it by one minute.)

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
3. Not to worry!!!!
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:19 AM
Apr 2022

That would require more reading than the average teenager does anymore - unless it's on a 'phone' screen!

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
10. My Thought Exactly
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:51 AM
Apr 2022

The average winger wouldn't get through the first sentence. And I mean the adults.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
4. Seriously, how could a math textbook contain anything a right-winger could credibly object to?
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:26 AM
Apr 2022

 
?

I want to see the textbook contents that they're objecting to. I'll bet they're even funnier than the parody that Tommy Carcetti posted above.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
30. Double on the "LOL".........
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 01:41 PM
Apr 2022

and 'Welcome' to DU! (looks like you'll fit right in - well, forget the 'right' part, but you know what I mean!)

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
20. Yeah...time to go back to "Roman" numerals...because you know...White and all..
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

Could be very confusing:

XIV - III = (OK..this ain't so bad)
XIV X III = ( so is that multiply or add 14 10 and 3)

How do you do fractions? Polynomials???

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
27. I hate seeing Roman numerals on the
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 01:04 PM
Apr 2022

copyright page of books, and in crossword puzzles. I get completely lost once the numbers get into C, L, and M.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
32. And Geometry! I mean, wasn't Pythagoras Greek?
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 02:01 PM
Apr 2022

Weren't the ancient Greeks all gay? I mean, how is this Christian?!

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
31. You must 'forgive'.......
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 01:44 PM
Apr 2022

Not everybody can 'read' RepubliQan........ but a special 'decoder' ring is for sale at 'tRump.scam'

sanatanadharma

(3,702 posts)
11. They'd have five apples
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 11:53 AM
Apr 2022

Five apples, two headaches, and three to eight friends with whom to share apple halves.

And one fired math teacher.

txwhitedove

(3,928 posts)
19. True tale: I was raptly reading this post, when phone rang. " Hello, this is Wanda and
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 12:33 PM
Apr 2022

I want to share with you a passage from the Bible....". Excuse me, what are you calling about? Wanda repeated. I said no thank you out and hung up. I could have shared your post to see what she thought, but love my DUers too much to get that fight started. Did Jesus tell her to call me?

 

Frostlight

(90 posts)
34. Minor missed opportunity.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 03:22 PM
Apr 2022

Personally, I try to plant doubt and make them face their own insanity at every chance, but it's not obligatory.

txwhitedove

(3,928 posts)
35. Hi, Frostlight. Welcome to o DU. Actually thought I heard a crying baby and Wanda
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 03:32 PM
Apr 2022

sounded tired, so not a good day to mess with Wanda.

 

Frostlight

(90 posts)
22. They will BELIEVE this.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 12:49 PM
Apr 2022

In all seriousness, if you wanted to troll them with something like this, you could, easily. The problem is that they'll spread it far and wide as 'proof' that 'Critical Race Theory' is being taught to children.

These are fundamentally stupid people we're talking about here.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
40. Repubquanons
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 11:02 AM
Apr 2022

Project like crazy. The crt bullshit is more of the same.

They accuse Dems of exactly what they are doing.

Just like pooty does.

Projecting dark triad losers strike again

 

Frostlight

(90 posts)
44. I have to work up a few posts. lel.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 12:18 AM
Apr 2022

Hint: Discussions on Human Superconscious Theory. Probably been 8 years or so. You said one of the most interesting things about why it is that the 'predominant/mundane' world of consciousness rejects us.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
29. HAHAHAHAHA!! Elementary school book?
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 01:37 PM
Apr 2022

And people honestly believe that convoluted crap is in there?

Every time I think Republicans have come up with the dumbest thing ever, they just keep talking.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
33. The teacher observes Johnny placing 3 white apples in his basket,
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 02:22 PM
Apr 2022

and Kenny placing 2 black apples in the same basket. Both students report their results of adding the apples in the basket -- both report that the sum = 5. However, the teacher, as required by Florida State Law, must notify the Governor that Kenny willfully added black apples to the white ones in Johnny's basket. Also, both students will get an "F" for this exercise, since in Florida the answer is the sum = 3 apples (the white ones), since black apples are not counted in Florida.

robbob

(3,528 posts)
38. Ok ok; I know we're all having fun with this absurd situation...
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:52 PM
Apr 2022

But I really want to know WHAT, exactly, is in those textbooks! I searched high and low on this and every story (CNN, The Guardian, etc.) have the same story we already know; insane Florida law pulls numerous math text books from the curriculum, and, in spite of claims of “transparency”, they refuse to specify what the offending material is.

I think they need to be pressed into showing exactly what they object to. Why? Well, for one thing, there has to be SOMETHING there. They can’t just randomly pick out books to ban. Because some publisher forgot to grease their palms?

But more importantly; they deliberately want to leave it vague and “scary”. “CRT”! “Woke culture!”!!! “Brainwashing/grooming children”!!! They do this to rile up the base and stir up anger, division and controversy ahead of the next election. If we force them to reveal the offending material I think it’s going to reveal a lot more about who THEY really are.

I’m just guessing here, but I’m thinking maybe illustrations that show white and black kids working together on math problems? Or word problems that involve characters of different ethnic backgrounds? You know, inclusiveness? Make them show us the “offending material” so we can see what real racist snowflakes they actually are.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
39. If it has taken them this long
Tue Apr 19, 2022, 01:16 AM
Apr 2022

I'm pretty sure they have nothing they are willing to share with the public - it will just be too ridiculous and they know it.

I think they will just act outraged until the next distraction.

ForgedCrank

(1,779 posts)
45. What could actually be true about this is that
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 01:01 AM
Apr 2022

it was probably posted by someone on twitter or facebook and a bunch of people believed it.
Now we'll see Ted Cruz hollering about it on TV next week.

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