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This is truly disgusting ,putins plans for Ukraine (Original Post) I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 OP
I've been yelling about Novorossiya since this war started. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #1
Yes, that is literally the Novorossiya flag obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #2
I know that - I'm asking if it's actually based on the Confederate Stars and Bars. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #3
When it comes to Putin, I don't believe in coincidences. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #4
I agree with that I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #5
Yes, Putin identified the fault lines in the American psyche. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #8
And was effective enough at it to give us Trump Chainfire Apr 2022 #7
Yes, Putin and GOP goals are identical. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #10
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #11
Will you buy Wiki's explanation? It's based on the Russian Navy Flag. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #12
Doesn't explain why out of thousands of flags, Putin chooses this one for Ukraine. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #13
It would make perfect sense sarisataka Apr 2022 #6
Exactly. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #9
Will there be a Masonski Dixonovich line? lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #14

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
1. I've been yelling about Novorossiya since this war started.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 03:20 PM
Apr 2022

It's clearly what Putin is talking about when he says "Ukraine is not a real country". Russia believes it belongs to them since Catherine the Great conquered it from the Ottomans, and the Communists assigning it to the Ukraine Socialist Republic in 1922 was a historical error that they have a right to correct.


If you google "Novorossiya", the images page will lead you to some very unpleasant places.

Note: I don't know that the Novorossiyan "bars" flag is based on the confederate battle flag. Is that actually confirmed?

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
3. I know that - I'm asking if it's actually based on the Confederate Stars and Bars.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 04:06 PM
Apr 2022

The tweeter is asserting that. I'm doubting it.

It's like saying the flag of Chad is based on the flag of Romania. They're virtually identical but it appears to be a coincidence.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
4. When it comes to Putin, I don't believe in coincidences.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:04 PM
Apr 2022

He has been meddling in US politics for decades. He knows what he is doing.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
7. And was effective enough at it to give us Trump
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:09 PM
Apr 2022

and a house full of crazies. He and my governor are kindred spirits. (FL.)

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
10. Yes, Putin and GOP goals are identical.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:12 PM
Apr 2022

Permanent total power, autocratic regime, suck all the money out of the economy, and white christian minority rule.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
12. Will you buy Wiki's explanation? It's based on the Russian Navy Flag.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:49 PM
Apr 2022
The battle flag is based on the naval jack of the Imperial Russian Navy. Oleksandr Chalenko, who worked as a political journalist in Kiev, described the flag and explained its symbolism in an item published by Izvestia on 20 March 2014:[5]

"It's a red flag with a blue Saint Andrew's cross. The flag of the Russian Navy. Of the Navy, which played a prominent military role in the emergence and establishment of historical Novorossiya."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Novorossiya#:~:text=The%20battle%20flag%20is%20based,a%20blue%20Saint%20Andrew's%20cross.

Russian Navy Jack:

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
6. It would make perfect sense
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:07 PM
Apr 2022

If variations of that flag did not go back to Peter the Great and predate the Confederacy by over 150 years

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