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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 04:23 PM Apr 2022

Are we there yet??? Yes, dear, we are . . .

Gun violence has surpassed motor vehicles crashes as the leading cause of child mortality.
For more than 60 years, car crashes were the number one cause of death for people between the ages of 1 and 24. But since 2017,the top cause has been firearm injuries, according to an analysis of CDC data by Boston-based researchers. “The crossing of these trend lines demonstrates how a concerted approach to injury prevention can reduce injuries and deaths — and, conversely, how a public health problem can be exacerbated in the absence of such attention,” the authors write. “As the progress made in reducing deaths from motor vehicle crashes shows, we don’t have to accept the high rate of firearm-related deaths among U.S. children and adolescents.” Related from The Trace: In January, we reported on CDC data that found gun violence deaths eclipsed 45,000 for the first time in 2020, and that firearm injury was the 13th leading cause of death for all Americans — ahead of fatal car crashes for the fourth straight year.

At last we're here. For decades the gun culture has said that we should 'look over there' at auto deaths instead of gun deaths (and injuries) as if we can't walk and chew gum. Well, that argument is now gone. It isn't just that gun deaths are rising--they are!--but car deaths are falling because cars are more safe every year and guns are, well, guns. There are more than 40 mandated safety features in the passenger compartment of a car yet guns aren't required to have a manual safety to prevent accidental firing. Unless it's a military gun. Who would have thought that the entity charged with tearing things up and killing people would have a higher safety standard than the civilian market?

Not that the technology doesn't exist, the Armatix IP1 was introduced years ago and it surpasses the durability standard of the firearms industry, works in the rain, soaked in oil or blood and can only be fired by the one user. BUT the gunners found a weakness: if an assailant were to wrestle the gun from the user and had a large magnet that he held in his left hand which crossed over the pistol to the right side of the gun it would override the electronic safety, Total failure to the point that the one gun store that carried it got death threats!! Hmm, what is the likelihood of an assailant having a magnet and forcibly taking the gun then placing the magnet in the precise place while under duress and in a physical altercation so he could defeat the electronic safeguards and shoot you? So that's why we can't have nice things . . .

Still only a small group want less gun regulation, about 9% of voters. If you want your voice heard you need a megaphone made of MONEY. You and I can't do it alone. It takes many voices giving few dollars each. [link:https://blog.greatnonprofits.org/9-organizations-making-progress-towards-gun-control/|Talk to these organizations.
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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. If we want better regulation of firearms . . .
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:09 PM
Apr 2022

We need to back public officials who are trying to pass laws and regulations pertaining to firearm possession and their negligence. Because the gun lobby sure as shootin' (no pun intended) has their flying monkey brigades on a hair trigger (again, no pun intended), ready at a moment's notice to some screeching out of the woodwork with the same tired excuses, nostrums and threats. When the gun lobby targets (really, I don't mean this to be punny, but that's how inundated our society is in the culture of the gun) an elected official, we the people need to have their backs (Again?!).

"Everybody knows" you're supposed to drive on the right side of the street, but we still have a law saying that. Repeal that law, and tomorrow some yahoo is going to be in the wrong lane because "there's no law against it." We need laws against negligent owners of firearms. You know, the ones who get caught with a loaded handgun in their carry-on luggage because they just forgot it was there. Or the folks who don't secure their weapons and it gets stolen and used to kill someone. Or it gets picked up by the five-year-old who shoots his toddler little sister. Even though Daddy told them NEVER to touch his piece!

Because what we're doing now (which is "nothing&quot isn't working.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
5. Oh Grat, I wish it were that simple.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:16 PM
Apr 2022

Here in Texas during the hearings before passing the 'Constitutional Carry' law--if you have a gun regardless of how you got it--you can strap it on your hip, the GOA showed up as did Moms Demand Action and a poll that showed 70%+ of voters opposed it but it STILL PASSED because the gun lobby bought the Texas Legislature. It makes no difference who we back or what we want $$ talks and voters walk.

How strong is the gun lobby? There are more gun stores in America than McDonalds and StarBucks combined.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Okay, well then, let's just keep doing nothing
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:31 PM
Apr 2022

It's bound to work some time.

By the way, did you see where your beloved Texas has gotten on the "every fertile woman is a potential murderer" train? Boy, was it just a few years ago that any such hare-brained, misbegotten, misogynistic bullshit didn't stand a chance of getting a hearing, let alone be passed into law? I wonder how that happened? They must have really been doing nothing for this to be enacted.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
8. I don't advocate doing NOTHING
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:36 PM
Apr 2022

Reach in your pocket and DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS!!112!1

And yes I saw that, fuck I live it. Again, REACH IN YOU FUCKING POCKET AND FIGHT ON THEIR TERMS. To sanctimoniously sit on that wallet and look down your nose at Texas is doing NOTHING which is what you accuse me of.

Be part of the solution or keep being part of the problem.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
10. Yeah, keep sittin' on that wallet and doing nothing . . . but if you do
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:58 PM
Apr 2022

stop with the sanctimonious superiority toward us who do put our money where our mouth is.

Kaleva

(36,474 posts)
6. There are no accidents when it comes to guns. There is only negligence.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:29 PM
Apr 2022

"Definition of negligence
1a: the quality or state of being negligent
b: failure to exercise the care that a reasonably prudent person would exercise in like circumstances"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/negligence

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,979 posts)
3. As long as our Congress has the backing of the gun industry along with the NRA ...
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:14 PM
Apr 2022

This situation will continue.

It's up to us to stop the gun industry from buying our so-called representatives.

Initech

(100,202 posts)
4. This is an epidemic.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:16 PM
Apr 2022

And it needs to be treated like such. I'd even dare use the G word to describe what our lust for guns is costing us. We may not be at that level yet but we're getting there.

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