*WTF is it with MSNBC 'talking heads' almost promising that Dems lose the House midterm?

[elleng]

[Stinky The Clown]

1. Are you talking to Sparkly in real time????

Watching Ayman sitting in for Chris Hayes.

[elleng]

2. symone and some guy.

Haven't spoken with Sparkly!

[Stinky The Clown]

13. We are now watching Netflix.

She has stopped debating with the TV.

LOL

[elleng]

14. LOL!

No netflix here, but maybe Law'nOrder or The West Wing!

[IA8IT]

3. So I'm not alone screaming STFU at tv?

[elleng]

12. Nope, you'n me.

[Septua]

4. Is it not a reasonable prediction?

[Demsrule86]

8. No...we are not losing right now. And MSNBC wants a self-fulfilling predicition which is why

I no longer watch. We need to get out all of our voters and we win. This election is the most important election in my life really.

[elleng]

11. Thanks.

With you.

[Demsrule86]

16. It is up to us...if we get out and vote despite the obstacles and the negativity in the media, we

can win. We have opportunities in the Senate this year.

[qazplm135]

30. I mean of course we are losing "right now"

every poll makes it pretty clear we aren't winning "right now."

Now, what happens in the months to come, I can't predict the future.

The loss of Roe could inspire a lot of our voters to turn out. (certainly possible)

Inflation could quickly go back down. (fairly unlikely)

Some other black swan event could happen. (who knows?)

But both historically and based on the current environment, yeah, we are losing.

Pretending we aren't isn't going to lead to a reversal of that situation.

Hard work, identifying what our problems are and trying to fix them can.

[CrackityJones75]

38. Exactly.

But you had people right here screaming that unless we passed the Voting Rights bills that we would automagically lose everything forever and ever and ever….


So there are still people that support the notion that we will fail and the media will feed them more of that garbage.

[vanlassie]

10. Specifically why do you think so?

Did someone on tv tell you so?

[Maraya1969]

15. It's only a reasonable prediction is every buys into it. Which is what I think they want.

If we Get out the Vote we should win.

[Hoyt]

5. Yeah, let's just pretend we are going to keep House and increase Senate lead by 10 seats.

That'll get out the vote.

[CrackityJones75]

39. Telling people it is a lost cause helps?

I don’t think so.

[former9thward]

6. They are getting paid to predict, not to cheerlead.

Cheerleading is the job of the DNC and for the House the DCCC.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Very correct!

[CrackityJones75]

40. Well....

if they want to continue to operate as a free media they may want to start cheerleading. That is if reporting truth and facts are at all important to them.

[moondust]

7. Stupid media.

"Historically the party in power loses seats in the midterms" is what I still hear all the time even though that dates back to the olden days when the GQP was still a somewhat legitimate political party with a platform and everything and not just a power-grabbing cult.

[onenote]

36. When do you think the repubs first stopped being a legit political party with a platform and not a

power grabbing cult? When were these "olden" days to which you refer?

Because in 2020, despite losing the White House, the repubs picked up 14 House seats. And while just as then, I have no doubt Trump couldn't get elected, the electorate seems perfectly willing to distinguish between him and their local house member's candidacy and its silly to pretend that the predictions being made now are baseless.

[hunter]

9. I quit talking head television news and opinion shortly after 9/11/2001.

Keeps me sane.

Turn it off.

Your local Democratic Party needs you.

[FakeNoose]

17. Same thing is getting posted here on DU - a lot lately

People must think the Democratic candidates are going to give up and quit, because they have no chance.

[DarthDem]

18. They're Wrong

[elleng]

19. Thanks

[madville]

20. It's a very likely outcome

The Senate is a tossup still at this point though, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will be close.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Who promised???? Missed that

[elleng]

23. symone and some guy.

They young guy used to work for AOC, I think.

Symone's gonna have her own show 'next month,' I heard. I won't be THERE.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Hmmm. It's super easy to be discouraged right now

About it all .

[elleng]

28. Not for me, I don't see it.

U.S. economy doing very well, U.S. and allies stronger than ever (NATO, U.N.,) covid treatments successful, among a few.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Maybe tomorrow. Just saw evacuation of kids with cancer from Ukraine

So I'm pissed off with the free world in general.... Except the people evacuating those kids

[onenote]

37. Most voters don't think the economy is doing "very well."

Last edited Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Statistics only get one so far. Voter perception is what matters.

Consumer confidence is lower now than it was at the end of 2021. Gas prices are a huge issue. Inflation is a huge issue. And while the stock market isn't a good indicator of the economy (although folks like to cite it when its going up), the reality is that over the past few months, it has dropped over 1600 points from its peak in early January (and has been down as much as 4000 points). That gets reflected in 401K statements.

Yes there is a lot of good economic news, and several million people have jobs and/or higher wages than they did before. But all those people -- and many more -- are finding that their cost of living is also significantly higher. That leads people to have an unfavorable view of the economy.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/390350/satisfaction-low-economic-concerns-remain-high.aspx

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Agree 100%. And we have ZERO game and ZERO PR. Need new

Leaders !!!!!

[Wednesdays]

25. Well, okay. But then there's this:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216613634

[elleng]

26. Thanks

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Thanks !

[ForgedCrank]

32. At least

that is a measurable positive indicator.

[FBaggins]

42. Not much to go on there

The RNC figure was higher for March but slightly lower for the quarter with both sides having comparable cash-on-hand.

Both national parties' fundraising is dwarfed by both individual candidate fundraising and by outside dollars. So it doesn't add much to the story.

[ForgedCrank]

31. I was

reading the same BS on washington post today or yesterday. I can't for the life of me figure out why these outlets are turning on us like this. It's a critical time and we don't need resistance like this.

[brooklynite]

33. These outlets aren't against us...and they're not for us

They're reporting political news, which seriously does show a likelihood of losing the House (and possibly the Senate) in November, absent some significant change in political dynamics.

[elleng]

34. 'political news?'

[brooklynite]

35. Um, news about politics, for people who follow politics?

Which isn't most voters?

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

41. This is what the MSM is pushing everywhere.

MSM is the GOP lapdogs.

[Orrex]

43. NPR has been doing it for months

I know that one or more of NPR’s tireless defenders will swoop in to tell me that I didn’t hear what I heard, but I first noticed it in the early months of 2022.

They’d use phrases like “With Democrats all but certain to lose their congressional majority” or “The GOP is poised to retake the House and possibly the Senate,” and on and on.

These statements appear on multiple NPR programs, not just the flagship news hours. And never once have I heard a commentator rebut or rein in the speaker’s prophecy of Democratic Doom.

Instead, they say things like “where did Democrats go wrong?” or “Why do Democrats have such difficulty holding onto power?”


I don’t have a particular citation, but if you tune into NPR at random on any given day, there’s a fair chance that you’ll hear similar comments for yourself.

[Coventina]

47. You beat me to it!

I despise NPR, but husband is a huge fan and has it playing the background constantly.

They are constantly talking about the huge losses Dems are going to have.

[Orrex]

50. I'm torn

I absolutely love their long-format "interest" programs like Snap Judgment & This American Life, but a few minutes of All Things Considered is enough to make me realize that we've always been at war with Oceania.

I've been listening for about 20 years, and in all that time I've never heard them undermine Republicans, nor even seriously call out Republicans for obvious, egregious lies or crimes. And on the rare occasion that they do raise questions about a Republican traitor, they say things like "are Democrats mishandling this issue" or "despite these allegations, Democrats still have trouble connecting with voters."

[Cuthbert Allgood]

44. Statistics and history are CLEARLY on the side of this prediction.

Are we pretending it isn't?

[Midwestern Democrat]

45. It appears so. This isn't my first election - I sensed with pretty good certainty by late April in

past elections which party was going to win the House. By late April of the following years: 1994 - was dead certain we were in deep trouble; 2006 - was confident the House was ours barring a major foul-up; 2008 - was confident that we were going to expand our majorities; 2010 - was dead certain we were in deep trouble; 2014 - knew it was going to suck; 2018 - was confident the House was ours barring a major foul-up. This year I basically feel like I did in 2014 - it's not going to be a full-out disaster like 1994 or 2010, but it's probably going to suck.

[LeftInTX]

48. We even had a Democrat resign from Congress

We're having a special election in a few weeks to replace him with a Republican

He was gonna wait until November, but decided to let his seat go the GOP

Filemon Vela up and quit

We had a local Dem switch parties to the GOP
We had a state senator throw in the towel after her primary

Now the senate seat will be an automatic GOP pick up...

Campaigns aren't very perky at the moment.
I wish I could be optimistic, but we barely won the house and now Filemon decided to give it away!

[krawhitham]

49. Because that is what polling says will happen, do you want them to lie like foxnews?

[helpisontheway]

51. Unfortunately, it is true. And we will probably lose the Senate too. Nt

[LudwigPastorius]

52. Let's get real.

The way things stand now, it doesn’t look good.

You can’t expect voters to reward those in charge while the current year-to-year inflation rate is the highest it has been in 40 years.

Voters are less interested in causal responsibility than in forcing a change. In other words, if you are in office now, you are holding the bag.

The first step in solving a problem is to admit that you have a problem.

[Raine]

53. Realistic ... I would rather not live in a bubble ignoring things

that I don't want to hear and accept. I did that in the mid1990's when the media said we were going to get our asses kicked. I told myself it couldn't be true. It wasn't pleasant waking up the day after the election to Newt's 'Contract ON America"! 😢 I swore that I would NEVER be that surprised again by choosing to ignore reality, I haven't repeated that mistake.