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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:27 AM Apr 2022

To quote a DU pillar, this morning's revelations about McCarthy and McConnell wanting Trump

to either resign or be removed immediately after January 6th makes one thing "pellucidly clear":

---the instrument has yet to be invented that could measure either the hypocrisy or the cowardice of those who call themselves "Republicans".

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To quote a DU pillar, this morning's revelations about McCarthy and McConnell wanting Trump (Original Post) Atticus Apr 2022 OP
Exactly PJMcK Apr 2022 #1
"Kompromat"? nt Atticus Apr 2022 #2
No doubt Trump works in the dark arts NCDem47 Apr 2022 #6
We never found out what was in David Pecker's vault at the Enquirer Walleye Apr 2022 #10
Everyone has dirt on everyone else, unfortunately some on our side too. As soon as someone has brewens Apr 2022 #3
On the Republican side we have ABUNDANT documented evidences Hortensis Apr 2022 #15
I do wonder Mad_Machine76 Apr 2022 #18
Oh, I always wonder these days too. Fwiw, I am talking about the kind of Hortensis Apr 2022 #19
Because he is their base BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #4
That's it.. agingdem Apr 2022 #8
Wingnut media picks up the scent and you're left alone with your principles BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #12
From Kevin backed off after saying that Putin pays T malaise Apr 2022 #14
Gerrymandered districts make them rainy Apr 2022 #17
To invoke the 25th Amendment, it would have been up to Mike Pence FakeNoose Apr 2022 #5
Uh, "Mother's Boy" has nothing to "tan". nt Atticus Apr 2022 #9
I think it showed that they knew the severity of what TFG has done Claustrum Apr 2022 #7
"pelucidly clear".......... must be much loved "malaise" 7wo7rees Apr 2022 #11
Ding ding malaise Apr 2022 #13
Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #16

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
1. Exactly
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:29 AM
Apr 2022

It re-raises the question: Why are Republicans so enthralled to Trump?

His base isn't that big. His endorsements aren't guarantees. His approval rating is low.

Why do Republicans keep falling in line behind this loser?

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
6. No doubt Trump works in the dark arts
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:54 AM
Apr 2022

Gossip and drama queen. He loooooves to dish and get dirt on others that he can exploit for his gain. It's so obvious. He glorifies the mafia ethos. Bully, blackmail, and bride EVERYONE in your orbit.

Shudder to think of the access he gained to our nation's most sensitive information.

brewens

(13,590 posts)
3. Everyone has dirt on everyone else, unfortunately some on our side too. As soon as someone has
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:33 AM
Apr 2022

trouble, threats go out to the right people to back off.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. On the Republican side we have ABUNDANT documented evidences
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 10:16 AM
Apr 2022

of blackmailable behaviors. (Likely 100s these days if Republican voters cared. Dirt just isn't the same when an entire party is rolling in it, though).

What's on the Democratic side? 50 senators, over 200 reps. There has to be some "dirt." Some're sleeping around. Some have relatives with ruinous activities they're trying to keep contained. Some haven't returned donations from bad donors as they should have. Some bought property shortly before value rose more than expected.

Our party still polices its elected reps, though, and I have no hesitation in saying that finding big, blackmailable dirt on the "right people" would be far harder to impossible, especially in the senate. If Jim Clyburn or Patty Murray for instance had some dirty secret big enough to control him or her and other leaders knew (a strange, bad vote would also be a big clue to something wrong), they'd have retired or at least stepped down from leadership positions. It goes to who and what we are.

Mad_Machine76

(24,414 posts)
18. I do wonder
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:27 PM
Apr 2022

if somebody has something on Sinema or Manchin, especially Sinema, who's political career has had a weird trajectory. Even though she is no longer in office, I wonder about Tulsi Gabbard too.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Oh, I always wonder these days too. Fwiw, I am talking about the kind of
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 02:34 PM
Apr 2022

Democrats who BELIEVE in the value of the federal government, which is by nature virtually all the liberals, even the kind of squirrely, less than ethical ones the house leadership occasionally has to pressure into line or, worst case, help usher out.

Liberals tend to go to DC believing in the value of government to do good, and the desire to do good is a real barrier to the degree of corruption that's developed on the right. You just don't see it among Democrats in general.

These days almost all Republican conservatives make a religion out of being anti-tax, anti-regulation, and seeing a strong, progressive federal government and social programs as evils to be destroyed. And corruption of what is already believed to be rotted with progressive liberalism is a major technique for doing that. Conservatives were always more inclined to corruption overall, but those who wouldn't go along were mostly purged a long time ago and replaced by the kind we see now.

This has all been proven in general by various studies of who's who and why. Fwiw, I don't see Manchin at all in the same category as Sinema or Gabbard, whatever their "categories" are (?), or Manchin as fitting into a Republican category, but it's clear enough for anyone to see that none of them are liberal Democrats like their colleagues. And that Manchin's positions have shocked and disappointed colleagues, including Biden, who thought they knew him pretty well.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
8. That's it..
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 09:04 AM
Apr 2022

Trump's bully-boy name calling, insults, and threats are intended to incite his army of racists, xenophobes, anti-intellectuals..he appeals to the lowest of low and that means violent retaliation, both personal and professional...and that scares the shit out of them..

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
12. Wingnut media picks up the scent and you're left alone with your principles
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 09:50 AM
Apr 2022

They’ve been running scared since the Gang of Eight got rolled by Rush Limbaugh et al on immigration in 2013. A 68-32 majority in the Senate and Boehner couldn’t bring it to a vote.

malaise

(269,038 posts)
14. From Kevin backed off after saying that Putin pays T
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 09:56 AM
Apr 2022

the Slobfather. I knew Slobby has the goods on him.

rainy

(6,092 posts)
17. Gerrymandered districts make them
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 11:17 AM
Apr 2022

have to appease the crazies. The districts are drawn too safe allowing for no competition within so the crazies control the elected leaders. That’s how the tea party got its start.

FakeNoose

(32,643 posts)
5. To invoke the 25th Amendment, it would have been up to Mike Pence
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 08:51 AM
Apr 2022

Apparently McCarthy and McConnell were on board, and Pence wasn't? I don't get it, because Mike Pence's hanging scaffold was still standing in front of the Capitol building. If anyone had a motive to REMOVE Chump once and for all, it should have been Pence.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
7. I think it showed that they knew the severity of what TFG has done
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 09:00 AM
Apr 2022

and they thought the public would punish TFG and the republican party for it. So they got out in front of the story to try to get TFG to resign so it does less damage to their party. To their surprise, for some crazy reason, the general public ignored it. So now, they are back to not caring about the matter.

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