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Too many Americans have seen their lives destroyed because (Original Post) Uncle Joe Apr 2022 OP
K & R - nt Ohio Joe Apr 2022 #1
I knew Bernie was a stoner! BComplex Apr 2022 #2
It's common sense America. I don't identify Bernie as a "stoner." Maybe 50 years ago..! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #17
I was actually kind of joking, but I have no doubt that Bernie probably "inhaled" at some point. BComplex Apr 2022 #21
I appreciate his fight for working people and social values that make sense. He and Liz both. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #24
I'm on board Bernie. SamKnause Apr 2022 #3
I have heard that the Busch family may have had an interest in ...... jaxexpat Apr 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #26
No, it was because an evil sonofabitch named Harry Anslinger Warpy Apr 2022 #12
Nm legalized mj not decriminalized, there's a difference questionseverything Apr 2022 #18
I've heard that the feds are trying to enact a law that anybody on medical MJ... XacerbatedDem Apr 2022 #29
It's already true madeup64 Apr 2022 #31
That's how it is right now questionseverything Apr 2022 #32
That's already the law since it's still illegal nationally questionseverything May 2022 #38
K&R MustLoveBeagles Apr 2022 #4
Bernie finally says something I really agree with. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #5
Marijuana use should have never been made illegal FakeNoose Apr 2022 #6
Exactly! This is why it became illegal. Hulk Apr 2022 #14
No more a gateway drug than pissing in a bush. Hulk Apr 2022 #15
Of course there is no connection between pot and, say, narcotics, but there may be with dealers. housecat Apr 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #27
No more pee test for multigraincracker Apr 2022 #7
What about airline pilots, truck drivers and train engineers? n/t ripcord Apr 2022 #10
Pee test doesn't tell whether they're high at the time of the test. Mariana Apr 2022 #13
What about airline stewardess, truck mechanics, aircraft engineers, KS Toronado Apr 2022 #16
More talk. SergeStorms Apr 2022 #8
Needs to be voted on in EVERY BALLOT in EVERY state Hulk Apr 2022 #11
It was Reagan who said no to rugs. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #19
Especially those Persian ones!! nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #22
What kind of rugs? housecat Apr 2022 #36
Well twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #37
k/r progressoid Apr 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #25
Criminalization of cannabis just helped push a 2 tiered legal system Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #28
Yesterday was first day NJ allowed the sale of recreational pot. No script needed. Pepsidog Apr 2022 #30
Past time for our government to do the right thing and change cannabis classification. Emile Apr 2022 #33
ding , ding , ding , ding. the "war on drugs " is a war on minorites and poor people . AllaN01Bear Apr 2022 #34
California legalized pot and now there are illegal grows all over our desert area stealing water ripcord Apr 2022 #35

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
21. I was actually kind of joking, but I have no doubt that Bernie probably "inhaled" at some point.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 05:20 PM
Apr 2022

Bernie's awesome.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
24. I appreciate his fight for working people and social values that make sense. He and Liz both.
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 06:09 AM
Apr 2022

We can't even get to single payer while the middle class is on life support. But I digress. Happy Earth Day!

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
3. I'm on board Bernie.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 01:40 PM
Apr 2022

I have been for decades.

It is a crime against humanity that cannabis has been criminalized.

The destruction this has caused in incalculable.

How many have been killed ?

How many have been orphaned ?

How many have been locked away ?

How many have been turned down for employment ?

How many have been turned down for housing ?

How many have been turned down for educational grants ?

This was a farce from the very beginning.

This was aimed at blacks and hippies under Nixon.

This was aimed at Mexicans and black musicians from the jump in 1937.

This was never based on science.

Nixon threw the report in the trash without every reading it.

The U.S. convinced and sometimes forced other countries to follow suit and spread the destruction world wide.

jaxexpat

(6,833 posts)
9. I have heard that the Busch family may have had an interest in ......
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 02:50 PM
Apr 2022

Eliminating competition for their product. Probably an urban legend thing. But right after prohibition was repealed there was a pretty hard push to demonize cannabis. It hasn't gotten any better. I theorize the pharmaceutical industry is no friend of legalization either. Data recently coming out that states who've legalized or approved medical use are selling less prescription drugs. That's not what CVS or Pfizer want to hear. It's just a warning of lost profits to them.

Response to jaxexpat (Reply #9)

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
12. No, it was because an evil sonofabitch named Harry Anslinger
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:11 PM
Apr 2022

hated Mexicans and black folks, in that order.

Nixon doubled down because he hated people under 30, especially college kids.

NM decriminalized recreational cannabis a few weeks ago. Medical cannabis has been on the books since the 70s, but was only put into the hands of patients in the early 00s.

Cannabis is not a panacea, some people react badly to it. However, they're a minority, most people find it beneficial.

It's long overdue to have thisk useful plant decriminalized.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
18. Nm legalized mj not decriminalized, there's a difference
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:59 PM
Apr 2022

Decriminalized means you can still be ticketed and forced into treatment, then if you don’t “pass” the treatment requirements , you can be jailed for not following the court order

Because our current president favors decriminalization the term is being used interchangeably but it’s not

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
29. I've heard that the feds are trying to enact a law that anybody on medical MJ...
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 10:55 AM
Apr 2022

can not buy a gun or have a conceal and carry license. Is that true?

madeup64

(257 posts)
31. It's already true
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 12:44 PM
Apr 2022

Having a medical marijuana card and admitting to it on a firearm background check means an automatic denial. This is because of federal regulations on marijuana being schedule one.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
6. Marijuana use should have never been made illegal
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 01:55 PM
Apr 2022

The sad fact is that there was a time when most of the marijuana users were black and not wealthy. It became easy to round up the "trouble-making" black folks and charge them with marijuana use. It was totally racist and unfair, and it was never about the safety or health issues of using marijuana. It was always about perceived trouble-makers and putting them in jail.

This country needs to face our racism head on and make substantive changes for the betterment of all.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
14. Exactly! This is why it became illegal.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:16 PM
Apr 2022

I've watched documentaries on this, and this is exactly how the racist boot was put on the necks of our black communities. Whites and other minorities have also been caught up in this bitch nancy reagan Scarlet Letter of "crime"...yet drunks are put in a cage over night and sent home to beat their wives freely.

So wrong for a century now. Time to wake the fuck up and join the Twenty-first Century.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
15. No more a gateway drug than pissing in a bush.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:19 PM
Apr 2022

You honestly believe a meth or heroin addict wouldn't be an addict if it wasn't for pot?

Oh please...save that shit.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
20. Of course there is no connection between pot and, say, narcotics, but there may be with dealers.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 04:33 PM
Apr 2022

I remember in the 60's some were just potheads also selling, but there were others, opportunists, only in it for the money. They sold whatever someone would buy. Usually it was pot, hash, and a variety of psychedelics, especially in the college crowd. Narcotics were considered to be a separate world then, but I don't know about today. Just sayin

Response to housecat (Reply #20)

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
13. Pee test doesn't tell whether they're high at the time of the test.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:15 PM
Apr 2022

Only that they used it sometime in the past. So, what's the point?

KS Toronado

(17,259 posts)
16. What about airline stewardess, truck mechanics, aircraft engineers,
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:24 PM
Apr 2022

diner waitresses, teachers, ditch diggers, meter readers, postmen, congressmen, store clerks, boat passengers,
football coaches, auto mechanics, bank employees, McDonald's cooks, pizza delivery drivers, auto parts counter
help, doctors, dentists, nurses, butcher, baker, the candle stick maker, police, prison warden, guard dog, drivers
flying trump flags, HARLEY DAVIDSON riders

No more pee tests for jobs, period.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
8. More talk.
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 02:46 PM
Apr 2022

I've been hearing talk about it since the early 70s, and that's all it's been. Talk.

Dozens of states have decriminalized it, some have legalized it, but as long as it remains a schedule 1 "narcotic" there will be no justice.

The government makes a big deal about opioids, but I'll never be able to get off of them (prescribed) until they legalized the use and posession of marijuana.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. Needs to be voted on in EVERY BALLOT in EVERY state
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 03:10 PM
Apr 2022

Whether it passes or not is insignificant. It will bring out the youth vote. It has the potential to finally legalize what is ALREADY LEGAL in half the states, and expunge the records clean of so many citizens that were apprehended for activities the majority of us have taken part in for decades.

Enough already! Get it on the ballots for THIS NOVEMBER. Then push voting Democrat for the down ballot and cleanse this sick nation of these gQp hypocrite snake oil politicians.

Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
28. Criminalization of cannabis just helped push a 2 tiered legal system
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 10:38 AM
Apr 2022

It was the up selling of a 2 tiered legal system.

Today the 2 legal systems, 1 for the masses and 1 one for the filthy rich, has become common place. If you or I were drunk and ran over and killed a 50 year old woman we would be in jail. But not the Waltons, who own Walmart.

There was always a bias in favor of the filthy rich built into our legal system. Hiring lawyers and bail is very expensive. But it was rarely talked about or openly encouraged to divert so drastically.

Making cannabis illegal allowed that 2 tiered justice system to fully develop. But now that everyone knows the filthy rich can even murder without any legal repercussions, there's no need for using cannabis as an excuse to lock away minorities and critics of capitalism.

They can just get the Supremes to wave their magical legal wands. I bet you Brett waves that wand around a lot. And Amy waves it around as her husband tells her to. Roberts's court is a joke and we now have 2 separate legal systems.

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
35. California legalized pot and now there are illegal grows all over our desert area stealing water
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 01:22 PM
Apr 2022

If we are going to make it legal we need to make it work for everyone. There have already been shots fired over water thefts from private wells, for some reason people in the desert take that very seriously.

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