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AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 12:49 AM Apr 2022

Jan. 6 revelations will 'blow the roof off the House,' Rep. Jamie Raskin says

WASHINGTON — Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., suggested that the House Jan. 6 committee's upcoming hearings will be dramatic and include explosive revelations that the panel has been piecing together behind the scenes for months.

"The hearings will tell a story that will really blow the roof off the House," Raskin said Thursday at an event hosted by Georgetown University's Center on Faith and Justice in Washington.

(Snip)


"No president has ever come close to doing what happened here in terms of trying to organize an inside coup to overthrow an election and bypass the constitutional order," he said. "And then also use a violent insurrection made up of domestic violent extremist groups, white nationalist and racist, fascist groups in order to support the coup."

Raskin said the committee will present "evidence" that proves there was coordination among then-President Donald Trump and his inner circle and his supporters who attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-revelations-will-blow-roof-house-rep-jamie-raskin-says-rcna25542

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Jan. 6 revelations will 'blow the roof off the House,' Rep. Jamie Raskin says (Original Post) AZProgressive Apr 2022 OP
If true, this is political dynamite! everyonematters Apr 2022 #1
When? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #28
I'll believe it when I see it. EndlessWire Apr 2022 #3
same Skittles Apr 2022 #4
One would hope... Eyeball_Kid Apr 2022 #16
how can anyone at this point support the GOP Skittles Apr 2022 #22
It'll be about as explosive as a fart in the wind... spudspud Apr 2022 #17
yeah Skittles Apr 2022 #23
100% agree. OnDoutside Apr 2022 #13
How Are They Going To Run These Hearings?..... global1 Apr 2022 #5
I will believe repercussions when I see them and that Jamis Raskin is doing the best that he can. PufPuf23 Apr 2022 #6
K & R. Yes, Raskin suggests that "There is More to Come" and Raskin knows the show. Stuart G Apr 2022 #7
Its all good but not of that will matter unless the DOJ acts drray23 Apr 2022 #8
Yes, this. iemanja Apr 2022 #9
So far all the explosive reveals just make the public yawn. Kablooie Apr 2022 #10
The hearings should be on every TV station 24/7 in June. BigmanPigman Apr 2022 #11
YES INDEED. calimary Apr 2022 #12
And replay over and over and over....... BigmanPigman Apr 2022 #14
Even better! Repeat. BECAUSE it's necessary! calimary Apr 2022 #43
Detailed followup from Jamie Raskin on MSNBC tonight: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #29
In other news, Godot should be here any minute now. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 2022 #18
Two words: Jamie Raskin. ShazzieB Apr 2022 #19
+1 brer cat Apr 2022 #21
Who's not to say Raskin's in cahoots with Garland? sir pball Apr 2022 #35
It wouldn't surprise me at all if there's some coordination going on. ShazzieB Apr 2022 #37
I have one word: Well????? calimary Apr 2022 #44
And no one will care AverageOldGuy Apr 2022 #20
Says you. Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #33
Be great if the DOJ watches the hearings. It seems Emile Apr 2022 #24
The question becomes... How do we get enough people to care? MissMillie Apr 2022 #25
Beyond frustration. North Shore Chicago Apr 2022 #26
Agreed BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2022 #27
gasoline prices are the least of our worries. Americans have had a pass on gasoline since forever. Samrob Apr 2022 #30
If a tree falls in the forest... kentuck Apr 2022 #31
If Raskin says he has the goods... Novara Apr 2022 #32
Kick and rec for Trump's secret pals who like to taunt. Kingofalldems Apr 2022 #34
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 #36
Okey doke. Any time now would be just great. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #38
Revelation after revelation Mz Pip Apr 2022 #39
That's nice. nt tazkcmo Apr 2022 #40
The tornado siren has been blaring for a year and a half Leith Apr 2022 #41
The goddam Lincoln Project has harder-hitting video ads than I've seen from our Dems. albacore Apr 2022 #42

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #2)

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
3. I'll believe it when I see it.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:06 AM
Apr 2022

Not gonna be fooled again. Tired of crying over the deception, the promises, and the redactions.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
16. One would hope...
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:31 AM
Apr 2022

... that stuff that blows the lid off the House will also be an unfathomable exposure of a big slice of the GOP as cheering on the coup. That by itself will be a blow to the GOP's general favorability ratings, especially with independents. And the GOP can't afford to lose a single independent vote. So I'm going to have to err on the side of unconventional wisdom and speculate that the coming mid-terms will be a bloodbath for the GOP and a landslide for the Dems.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
22. how can anyone at this point support the GOP
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:42 AM
Apr 2022

they stand for absolutely nothing, and cater to racists - they are sickening beyond belief

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
23. yeah
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:44 AM
Apr 2022

like with Trump, I cannot imagine what could come out regarding the GOP that can make them seem any more vile than they are right now

global1

(25,253 posts)
5. How Are They Going To Run These Hearings?.....
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:12 AM
Apr 2022

Are they going to bring people before the committee and put them under oath and question them (televised)?

Or

Are they just going to go through a chronological timeline and tell us the story - complete with footnotes as to how they got that info?

Do we know how these hearings are going to play out?

PufPuf23

(8,787 posts)
6. I will believe repercussions when I see them and that Jamis Raskin is doing the best that he can.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:20 AM
Apr 2022

"the committee will present "evidence" that proves there was coordination among then-President Donald Trump and his inner circle and his supporters who attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election."


This is truth.

Even those that do not like this truth are using its existence to bash the libtards and degrade our democracy. I find this tiresome.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
7. K & R. Yes, Raskin suggests that "There is More to Come" and Raskin knows the show.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:28 AM
Apr 2022

We are not dealing with Donald Trump or some other fool. Raskin knows what to do, and tells the truth.

This single sentence says what is to come: ............................Raskin said ..."the committee will present "evidence" that proves there was coordination among then-President Donald Trump and his inner circle and his supporters who attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election."

....The main idea is this: Coordination between Trump & his inner circle...and his supporters who attacked the Capital on Jan. 6 in
an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election."


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The bottom line is this: Trump is the kind of person who is sure he can get away with anything and have no consequences to
himself. That is who Donald Trump is. The committee will prove that ...(in my opinion) ..Trump was behind the whole riot
on Jan 6, and he and his inner circle planned and carried out the insurrection and were sure that they would not be caught.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Well, they were wrong, and they are in the process of being caught. Then Trump and his gang will be tried, convicted and
pay the price of their plot to...."overturn the 2020 presidential election"....Trump is sure that he will get away with it, but
Raskin has been around the show and knows what is going to happen. In my opinion, Donald Trump will pay a price that
he never could even imagine in his worst nightmare. As has been said before, Donald Trump hasn't got a clue!,
....Raskin knows what is to come...and it is not a good ending for Donald Trump and his gang.......

And in the end, Who will you believe..."A Man of Integrity" or "A Liar Who Lies About Everything and Anything"

One simple example: Donald Trump said about the virus/pandemic......."It's All a Hoax"

The Atlantic studied all of Donald Trump's lies on the virus/pandemic...Yes, they are at this link:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/

drray23

(7,633 posts)
8. Its all good but not of that will matter unless the DOJ acts
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:43 AM
Apr 2022

The republican voters will not listen to it or else dismiss it as partisan trope. The only hope we have remaining is that the DOJ is indeed investigating and will act.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
10. So far all the explosive reveals just make the public yawn.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:58 AM
Apr 2022

Nothing has hit any fan.
I feel the time for action may have passed and any new reveals will be quickly swamped by right wing fake scandals.
Our justice system is broken when every single high stakes case against conservatives can be thwarted by lawyers who dance around the law forever, never allowing a resolution to any cases.
I don’t think a single major case has been resolved regarding Trump or his minions.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
15. Detailed followup from Jamie Raskin on MSNBC tonight:
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:21 AM
Apr 2022
Raskin: Jan. 6th Probe Shows How Close Trump Came To A Coup
https://democraticunderground.com/1017730633

Rep. Jamie Raskin, a member of the January 6th Committee, talks with Ali Velshi about the story that the data and testimony that the committee has assembled tells about the attack on the Capitol. Aired on 04/22/2022.


Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

ShazzieB

(16,420 posts)
19. Two words: Jamie Raskin.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:04 AM
Apr 2022
"The hearings will tell a story that will really blow the roof off the House," Raskin said Thursday at an event hosted by Georgetown University's Center on Faith and Justice in Washington.


If Jamie Raskin thinks the committee has material that will "blow the roof off the House," I believe him. He knows exactly what they've got, and he's not a drama llama. I have a lot of faith in that man. I think he is stating what he believes to be the facts of the matter, and that's good enough for me.

What happens after that is anyone's guess. I know a lot of people here have less than zero confidence in the DOJ at this point, but if the evidence is as powerful and compelling as Raskin seems to think it will be, surely the DOJ will be under significant pressure to act decisively, once it's all been laid out in public hearings for the country--and the entire world--to see. That's one thing that will be different about this.

I'm not going to be betting any large sums of money on what the DOJ might do, and I'm not suggesting anyone else do so. But I believe these hearings WILL be explosive. Jamie Raskin says so, and he should know.

sir pball

(4,743 posts)
35. Who's not to say Raskin's in cahoots with Garland?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:23 AM
Apr 2022

Personally, I'm extremely ambiguous about it all - but knowing how Garland works, keeping very quiet until coming out with a Mjolnir of a case (e.g. Oklahoma City and the Unabomber), it wouldn't really surprise me if he was coördinating with the Committee to let them start their hearings, "blow the roof off", and then promptly drop a duffel bag of indictments after all the dirt has been made public.

As I said though, that's not how I personally feel but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if it happens. Course, I'd also be equally unsurprised if he jams his thumb up his ass and whistles while the Republic burns, FWIW.

ShazzieB

(16,420 posts)
37. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there's some coordination going on.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:03 PM
Apr 2022

It has occurred to me before. I wasn't thinking about it when I wrote that comment, but I have definitely thought about that possibility.

As far as Garland goes, I've given up trying to guess his game plan for the most part. Dude is too inscrutable for me! I haven't given up on him, like so many here, partly out of sure ornery stubbornness. I'm not holding my breath that he'll do exactly what I'd like him to do, but I refuse to give up completely.

The one thing I am sure of is that I'm looking forward to the hearings. I think they're going to be really interesting.

calimary

(81,312 posts)
44. I have one word: Well?????
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:12 AM
Apr 2022

As in: OUT with it already! Enough with the teasing! We’re running out of time to DO anything about it!

AverageOldGuy

(1,530 posts)
20. And no one will care
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:08 AM
Apr 2022

I will not be surprised when the Jan 6 Committee proves that damn near every Republican in Congress was part of the attempted coup.

Also, when the Committee does blow the top off the Capitol, I predict that most of the population will shrug and go on about whatever it is they are going on about.

I live in a rural VA county that votes 65-70 percent Republican. Our useless Representative could shoot someone on 5th Ave and still be elected - -- as could Trump. I guarantee, if Trump runs in 2024, he will carry my county.

Jan 6 is old news for most of the country.

Emile

(22,789 posts)
24. Be great if the DOJ watches the hearings. It seems
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:51 AM
Apr 2022

the DOJ is only interested in the toothless redneck hillbillies that stormed the capital.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
25. The question becomes... How do we get enough people to care?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:32 AM
Apr 2022

If we don't get enough people to care (and because of that things don't change) it WILL happen again.

It isn't just the violence on that day that matters. THAT'S the message.

North Shore Chicago

(3,316 posts)
26. Beyond frustration.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:42 AM
Apr 2022

We have heard how all of these people will go down, trump will be jailed fucking ad nauseam!

Comparable to the boy who cried wolf, except it is the boy who cried jail! Low information theater voters will not give a crap. Gas is 5 dollars a gallon and bad fruit is sky high. Meat is off the chart.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
30. gasoline prices are the least of our worries. Americans have had a pass on gasoline since forever.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:56 AM
Apr 2022

Gasoline prices in poorer countries as been $4-5 for a decade or more. We seem to whine about everything and want to sacrifice nothing for having it all. The very poor among us whine the least, work hard, and receive little justice in return. We need to get a grip. Ever since the debate between Reagan and Carter when Carter was roundly criticized for suggesting that Americans should be willing to make sacrifices and Reagan said Americans should not be asked to sacrifice, the whiners have been in control of our economy. We are not "woke" We are still asleep!

Novara

(5,843 posts)
32. If Raskin says he has the goods...
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:46 AM
Apr 2022

...I believe him. He doesn't make empty promises or empty threats. The man is a Constitutional scholar, and he knows what he's got and how important it is. He knows the gravity of it and he doesn't boast. HE's not a showboater.

You guys are right - the RW will shrug it off. The Left will say, "A-ha! I told you so!" What can be accomplished with public hearings is getting the independents engaged. And the old-school republicans who go along but deep down don't like what their party has become. The old-school Rs are more apt to be invested in real patriotism - not performative patriotism - and they will be appalled, from what it sounds like. These people can be convinced. Not every R is a rabid, insane, cult follower.

Lastly, the hearings HAVE to be rebroadcast in prime time like the Watergate hearings in 1973. This is far more consequential than Nixon breaking into and bugging the offices of the DNC. This is a matter of massive Constitutional laws being broken by the elected officials in charge, including a "president" to foment a coup and override an election. So they really have to put the hearings on in prime time. Even so, in 1973 there were only three channels, so you couldn't miss it. There's a hell of a lot more ways to miss the hearings now. The hearings HAVE to get out to the public.

Then, when the public is enraged, the DOJ HAS to act. Right now, Garland is cowering in fear in case someone hints that he may be political. When a good portion of the country is screaming for prosecutions after the hearings, he can't not act. And at that point it won't seem political anymore.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
39. Revelation after revelation
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:28 PM
Apr 2022

Still doesn’t make a dent in his support.

His supporters feel perfectly justified in whatever they attempt, legal or not, ethical or not. If it benefits Donald then screw the law, screw ethics, screw the will of the majority.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
41. The tornado siren has been blaring for a year and a half
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:18 PM
Apr 2022

Still no funnel cloud.

I truly hope that the ever extended revelation time means that more and more shit is being discovered. More and more criminals will be prosecuted and get their just desserts.

However... the last 20+ years have given us disappointment after disappointment: Fitzmas, the Mueller Report, Dick Cheney & his merry band of war criminals are still roaming free, the Brooks Brothers riot gave us unrepentant rethugs and a drunk fascist boofer on the Supreme Court. Hell, even season 3 of The Boys was pushed back to June.

We better have one hell of a summer.

albacore

(2,399 posts)
42. The goddam Lincoln Project has harder-hitting video ads than I've seen from our Dems.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:51 PM
Apr 2022

The Dem media people have to figure a way to "frame" this whole thing so the goobers will finally see the idea that bad shit happened.
If the Lincoln Project can do it... why can't we?
Then bomb the shit out of the broadcast and cable media and even the goddam social media. If the trumpers can use social media, why can't we?

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