Reason why McCarthy/MoscowMitch flipped from condemning TFG to supporting TFG-threat of third party

[LetMyPeopleVote]

There are a ton of articles which express amazement at the fact that McCarthy and MoscowMitch flipped on TFG when they first condemned TFG's role in the Jan. 6 insurrection and then changed their stories and started ignoring TFG's role in this attempted insurrection. These articles seem surprised that so many republicans went from condemning TFG to praising him. To me, the main reason for this flip is clear.

After being attacked and condemned by McCarthy, MoscowMitch and other republicans for his role in the attempted coup, TFG started discussing forming a new political party that would in effect kill the GOP's chances in future elections.

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If TFG formed his Patriot Party, that party would draw a significant percentage of the GOP base and would kill the GOP's chances in future elections. Rather than risk facing a new TFG sponsored third party, the GOP caved.

There is no real mystery as to why McCarthy and MoscowMitch changed their positions. A TFG sponsored third party would hurt the GOP. That may be in party the reason why the RNC is still paying TFG's legal bills.

[relayerbob]

1. People are over-thinking this

They have serious dirt on these guys, are more than happy to embellish it even more, and threaten to use it on a regular basis.

[spooky3]

3. I really don't think that's the case. I think it's about the money

and the polls showing the base is still with Trump.

[Generic Brad]

9. Both things can be true

I strongly suspect it is a combination of the two.

[relayerbob]

10. As was said, both can be true

Nonetheless, had they taken Trump out after 1/6, he wouldn't be an issue. There was sertainly more going on that resulted in McCarthy and McConnell sucking up to Trump just a couple of weeks after saying they wanted to take him out. They each had years to "recover" from such an awful thing as pointing out a traitor and shutting him down for good.

[KS Toronado]

19. Some Jeffery Epstein intel perhaps?

he was one of Agolf Twitler's best friends.

[Cha]

33. I agree.. there's a lot already

known about mitch & mccarthy and the moronic base don't give a shit.

They're "dumb" as mccarthy was taped spouting.. for once I agree him on that.

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[Cha]

32. No, we're Not "overthinking it".. it's simple

.. a 3rd party threat"..

mitch & mccarthy wouldn't stand a chance. for majority leaders. Too bad they're such cowards

[relayerbob]

35. I agree with the cowards part

Had they helped to bring him and the conspirators to justice immediately, there wouldn't be a "third party" risk.

[Ilsa]

34. That was my first impression as well.

These republicans have moral, sexual, financial, or other deep secrets that would kill their careers or possibly put them in jail or prison.

[Skittles]

36. what kind of dirt could they possibly have on repukes

that would make them seem even more disgusting than we already know them to be?

[relayerbob]

37. MIght want to check out the latest on Madison Cawthorne

... and he's in the WAY minor leagues

[Skittles]

38. cross dressing is only scandalous....

....if you are a sanctimonious repuke who regularly judges the morals of others

[relayerbob]

39. Excuse me?

[Skittles]

40. you're excused

[relayerbob]

41. WTF is your problem

First, you accuse me of being a "repuke" and then you can't even apologize for it?

[Skittles]

42. I did no such thing

I have zero clue what you are talking about

[relayerbob]

43. Really?

Well, perhaps read through you comments and see why that might be interpreted that way

[Skittles]

44. I think you misunderstood

my opinion is that cross-dressing in itself is not a scandal....what actually makes it vile is if the person involved regularly judges the morals of others, as Cawthorn does (and many other repukes) do

[relayerbob]

45. ok, well, it sounded like you were saying *I* was that person

I don't disagree with that point, but mayb a little more care in the wording dept? Lotsa stress in the world right now

[Skittles]

46. uh, yeah.....

OK

[Cracklin Charlie]

2. I see truth in this.

But, the same thing seems to be happening anyway. There is the MAGA Republicans, and everyone else.

McCarthy and McConnell gambled and lost.

[tosh]

5. That's the way I see it, too.

They hitched their wagon and now they will lose all I's and moderates.

Damn, I hope we're not wrong!

[Me.]

4. Blackmail Never Works

the party would probably be as successful as his "twitter" with all the money going to him and not the candidates.

[Qutzupalotl]

6. Drop the Pat and just call it the Riot Party.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. That would be a more appropriate name

[Aristus]

7. The stupidest animal on the planet understands basic survival.

Everyone on the right knows that a third-party challenge to the GOP candidate in 2024 means a Democratic win with a split vote on the right. There will be no third-party challenge.

[bottomofthehill]

15. Right, that is why McCarthy and McConnell did what they did

You are missing something here. Everyone but Trump could read the tea leaves. The Republican leaders saw what happened in Georgia and realized they were fucked. Trump would and could with the post election money he raised he threatened to and clearly would start his own party splitting the republicans.

[Windy City Charlie]

8. Much simpler than that

They know they'd get challenged in a primary by someone in the Trump camp. And since the majority of their party's voters support Trump, they'd probably get beat. They'd rather stay in office than do the right thing. That's what has happened so far to anyone that hasn't fallen in line with Trump.

[tanyev]

13. Yes. An official Trump political party would be as successful as TruthSocial,

and McConnell and McCarthy know that. TFG does more damage as a spoiler within the GOP.

[bottomofthehill]

17. He does way more damage pulling 10/15 percent of the republicans away from the party and he would.

A Trump 3rd party would destroy the republicans and trump would do it so the republicans had to bend to him to survive. Now the question is, will moderated and independents go along with the crazy. Clearly the main line republicans are in order to stay in power.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

30. A TFG party would not have to win any races to help elect a ton of Democrats

[KentuckyWoman]

14. Power over party. Party over country.

Most Republican leaders don't want any part of Trump and never did. He's toxic to everything everywhere. They played this wrong in the beginning. They took him in out of fear he'd drag too many votes away from the GOP with a 3rd party presidential run. Now they have a beast they can't control. Tough cheese.

[groundloop]

22. All true, but that beast is still fucking up our lives and our country.

[JohnnyRingo]

11. Sounds logical.

I've seen the dems bow to the Green Party and Nader to some degree for the same reason.
Neither side wants a spoiler vote.

[bottomofthehill]

18. And to socialist democrats and Bernie bros.

They don’t have the media power or campaign money of trump yet the Democratic Party is often held hostage to their stupidity.

[MacKasey]

12. I totally agree!

It was the same in 2016 they were afraid for him to set up a separate party and they would lose to Hillary

[Postal Grunt]

16. Too Many Republicans are choosing a career in politics....

instead of following what's left of their conscience. The party that made term limits a foundation of their party platform has shown itself to have feet of clay.

[LaMouffette]

20. I think you're absolutely right! This makes so much sense. I'm still hoping that Liz and Mitt will

strike out on their own and form a New Republican Party, drawing off the moderate Republican voters (that is, if there are any moderate Republicans still in existence) and splitting the Republican voting base in two.

[crimycarny]

23. RNC threatened to cut off access to mailing list

I read in Johnathan Karl’s book “Betrayal” that Trump threatened this but backed down when RNC said they would remove his access to the massive mailing list. Apparently Trump makes an obscene amount of money off of selling access to the list. RNC said they would give it out for free which means there would be no reason for anyone to purchase from Trump. (And with Trump cut off from list he’d not get any updated contacts—would have stale data)

But I agree with what most are saying which is that McCarthy and McConnell are terrified of turning off the MAGA wing of the party. Plus I still wouldn’t put it past Trump to cut off his nose to spite his face and go ahead with a third party at some point anyway. His delusional ego would tell him he’d get everyone to move over to his party.

[cilla4progress]

24. This is the most commonsense appraisal

I've heard.

[cilla4progress]

25. Maybe we should help

it along?

[Buckeyeblue]

26. Doing nothing was easier for them than taking a stand

Moscow Mitch has made a good living doing nothing. It's his preferred action. Other than Supreme Court nominees. I think when the weighed the risk/reward of taking a hard stand against Trump they saw more risk than reward.

The risk being the alienation of the Trump base. They would have had to do a lot of work to get them back.

Doing nothing meant mumbling into microphones and accusing Democrats of being partisan during the investigation.

In life doing nothing is easy. That's why most people choose it.

[GoCubsGo]

27. That, and being lazy, spineless cowards.

I understand one of them, McConnell, I think, said that they shouldn't bother trying to convince Trump to resign after 1/6, because they "should just let the Democrats take care of him." Let your opponents take him out, and also absorb any negative fallout that might arise from it. How gutless can you get?

[liberalmediaaddict]

28. Nope they were scared of his base

Trump is too lazy to start a third party.
After 1/6 Repugs heard from their constitutes that they would tolerate zero criticism of Trump. They didn't think he did anything wrong and had the election stolen from him.

McCarthy and McConnell followed the will of their voters. Trump was probably as shocked as anyone that the Senate didn't vote to convict and ban him from running again. No wonder he thinks he's bulletproof.

[lindysalsagal]

29. No. They all took Russian ologarch crime money.

It's always that simple.

[Cha]

31. ChickenShits Quaking & Cowering..

HOpe they Go Down in a Pile of Burning Shit with the Psychotic Treasonous ASSface.

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