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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPete Strzok has caught something very sinister in testimony
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Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and American democracy. The Republican War on Truth marches on, having crawled out of the Republican Moral Cesspool.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)The United States government. The scary thing is they have installed a lot of them everywhere.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #2)
Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)From my view, the DOJ is still protecting piss wig and many of his co conspirators.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)in the title. It's right there at the top of his tweet. Thanks.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Don't be petulant about it.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Please. Get over this.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Allow me!
I would suggest using the "Preview" feature more diligently, and removing the superfluous URL crap that clutters up posts,
(You aren't the only one, not by a long shot! LOTS AND LOTS of Du'ers do this)
Everything after the "Status/" [bunch of numbers] and preceding the question mark (?) is relevant to the linked post, but the question mark and AFTER is NOT!!
When you post such a link, use the preview feature and look to see what part of the URL still shows up, and then highlight and DELETE IT! That way it won't clutter up your post.
Like this;
Link to tweet
See?? No ?andbunchofothercrap hanging around under the Tweet you are featuring.
Simple.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)My finger just hit post as it hit preview. And I immediately went to correct. And in that same fraction of sixty seconds, someone thought to correct a spelling error rather than comment on the news.
Good Lord. Now people have to wade through this slush to find the story.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)I just figured I would pile on, since everyone else was having such a good go at it!
LOL....
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Just correct it and move on.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Are we done yet?
erronis
(15,302 posts)Even minor errors can detract from the content. It's better just to correct and not raise a fuss.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)And now, another interruption of the news.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I saw it, read it, then politely suggested that you correct the spelling of the man's name. You corrected it, and I was about to self delete my suggestion, but you posted a snark.
Think about using correct spelling of people's names in thread titles. It matters. Really.
Torchlight
(3,341 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)At least the thread gets bumped and bumped and bumped.
erronis
(15,302 posts)and sometimes with less.
I appreciate your postings.
Joinfortmill
(14,429 posts)Novara
(5,843 posts)Sounds about white.
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)read by the FBI, if there are any left who aren't tainted. Popping up in these issues isn't good for their department. I see the SS was also brought up today as being in need of a cleaning out.
erronis
(15,302 posts)Unlike quite a few others that store unencrypted content on their servers (Telegram, etc.)
Now, I believe that many governments are working on quantum computers that will be able to eventually decrypt most messages. From various news reports, these governments are scarfing up all transmissions and will apply the quantum decryption techniques when available. --- Don't expect your secret ink, magic decoder ring to protect you in a few years.
Yes, the USSS needs to be investigated. But who do we trust to do this? Who will police the police?
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)And they were so worried about Hillary's emails?
ancianita
(36,075 posts)it was for a couple of years, but now sophisticated means exist to surveil targeted users.
Once the U.S. govt. froze out NSO -- an Israeli based company that tried to sell its product, Pegasus, to law enforcement and intell agencies -- a new firm is being used, this time through the Israeli govt itself. Ehud Barak sits on its board, and so its marketing seems to be more legitimate.
Paragon, it's called. Its core tech focusses not on seizing complete control of phones, but on hacking encrypted messaging systems like Telegram and Signal. It has sold to offices within the U.S. government.
Evil nor not, it sells to a narrow list of countries with uncontroversial human rights records.
Here's Ronan Farrow's long article that includes this info.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens
Quantum computing isn't even needed, apparently.
HariSeldon
(455 posts)Encrypted data means nothing to the human brain...it always has to be decrypted somewhere on a device for presentation to a human, and that's where the state-level actors play. They'll install software on the target device that intercepts text as it goes to be rendered on the screen or scrape the screen and use OCR to reconstruct the info. I wrote software that did the information interception for banks on the (bank owned) terminals they issued to their employees, so I know a bit about this.
This, by the way, is definitely a FAFO situation: CFAA can put you behind bars in federal prison for five years if you do this on computing devices without authorization.
certainot
(9,090 posts)lisa page. i can't even remember what they were outraged about but strzok was very high in counter russian intelligence and i wonder if that was fed to them by the kremlin - using limbaugh again, in this case to set up the trump -russian connection as a 'liberal deep state' coup attempt /russian hoax. limbaugh seemed to be getting all sorts of inside info and started the 'liberal deep state' meme right after, actually days before the trump inauguration. he attacked the women's march as an obama /soros joint operation with paid protestors. said obama was staying in DC to oversee the coup, etc. wherever he was getting the script from required a fair bit more imagination that the stephen miller's, cannons, etc have and i wouldn't be surprised if it was kremlin. limbaugh was always right in front of the story as details and characters changed and excuses for trump had to be made
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)#Traitor and Putin needed him gone asap so the banshees were given the intel and directed to destroy him.
He was (is?) way too knowledgeable about the machinations from the Kremlin in US affairs
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)From Natasha Bertrand in The Atlantic:
By the early 2000s, a third of the buyers of Trump Towers most expensive condos were Russia-linked shell companies or individuals from the former Soviet Unionincluding Eduard Nektalov, a mob-connected diamond dealer from Uzbekistan, and David Bogatin, a Russian-émigré mobster who specialized in bootlegging gasoline. Bogatins brother was involved in an elaborate stock fraud with the top Russian mob boss Mogilevich, who himself is allied with Alimzhan Tokhtakhounovanother Russian mob leader who ran an entire gambling and money-laundering network out of Unit 63A in Trump Tower, just three floors below Trumps own residence.(Tokhtakhounov was a VIP attendee at Trumps Miss Universe pageant in Moscow just seven months after the gambling ring was busted by the FBI.) Trumps own sons have boasted of the Trump Organizations dependence on Russian money. Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets, Donald Trump Jr. said in 2008. We dont rely on American banks, Eric Trump reportedly told a golfing buddy in 2014. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/
certainot
(9,090 posts)the key to radicalizing the GOP to get a guy like trump in.
strzok ought to get into the kremlin talk radio angle - manafort was mccain campaign co-chair and limbaugh would not support mccain until minutes after he picked palin minutes before the start of the limbaugh show, on the eve of what would have been a disastrous GOP convention without limbaughs support.
mccain wanted lieberman or pawlenty. plain was being courted by russian oill and gas....
trump could have been the guy channeling russian money to limbaugh
erronis
(15,302 posts)Response to certainot (Reply #17)
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SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)From just the other year
Trumps Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime
Some of President Trumps favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
NATASHA BERTRAND
The Atlantic, AUG 30, 2018
Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest Democrats engaged in a partisan witch hunt led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trumps attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
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Trumps latest obsession is with Bruce Ohr, a career Justice Department official who spent years investigating Russian organized crime and corruptionan expertise he shared with another Trump target named Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who provided valuable intelligence on Russia to the State Department and the FBIs Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force prior to authoring the Trump-Russia dossier in 2016. Ohr and Steele met in 2007, according to The New York Times, and stayed in touch as a result of their shared interests and mutual respect. Trump has tweeted about Ohr nearly a dozen times this month alone, complaining about his relationship with Steele and Ohrs wifes past work for Fusion GPSthe opposition-research firm that hired Steele in 2016 to research Trumps Russia ties.
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Trumps fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trumps former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaskas help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates.
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The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trumps developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the favorite East Coast destination of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Departments Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/
Traitor Trump, as PRESIDENT, targeted the FBI Witch Hunters who were tracking Putin and his Mafiya.
Warpy
(111,274 posts)His rise at the DOJ had been stymied. It seems the FBI also told him no.
I'm wondering what it would have taken to make him realize how tiny a minority within government he and his idol represented.
soldierant
(6,890 posts)There is nothing wrong with being partisan when one's opposition is treasonous and sttempting to destroy America" in such a way that they can't turn it back on us. Mallory McMorrow might be able to come up with something.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Snoopy 7
(527 posts)before Biden entered race they were saying 'the FBI was like a trump faturnity'
IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)every day a new bombshell
every single one of them were in cahoots... from radio station blabbermouths to local politicians to senators and congresspeople to the prezident.
llashram
(6,265 posts)law enforcement and possibly the military have still a lot of cleaning out of rat-infested pockets of trump vermin to do, I think. These RW rats are going to continue to try to turn America into a fascist and again a racist country that will be openly celebrated probably as a holiday... White supremacy runs so deep, that another conflict with armies will happen again? And all it took to reach this point in our history was 4years of a clown puppeteered by foreign and domestic traitors. DAMN!!!
Torchlight
(3,341 posts)If brought up by anyone other than my father, I think I might have thrown my hands up in despair by now, but as a history prof., he taught me patience will often outlast the absurd.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)...and most outlets don't even want to, or try.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)👍🏼