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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,028 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:47 PM Apr 2022

Russia's Putin attends midnight Orthodox Easter mass in Moscow

(Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin on Sunday attended an Easter mass conducted by the Russian Orthodox Church, which has strongly backed the Kremlin leader's "special military operation" in Ukraine.

Putin, dressed in a dark blue suit, a white shirt and dark purple tie, stood to one side in Moscow's Christ the Saviour Cathedral, holding a lit red candle, live images of the midnight service showed.

The Russian leader crossed himself several times during the ceremony. When Patriarch Kirill announced "Christ has risen", Putin joined the other members of the congregation with the reply "Truly he is risen". He otherwise did not speak.

At an outdoor service in Moscow on Saturday, Kirill said he hoped the conflict in Ukraine would end quickly but did not condemn it. His statements backing Russia's intervention, which has been condemned by Kyiv and Western nations as an act of aggression, have splintered the worldwide Orthodox Church.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-putin-attends-midnight-orthodox-easter-mass-in-moscow/ar-AAWwz1U

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Russia's Putin attends midnight Orthodox Easter mass in Moscow (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2022 OP
Too bad EYESORE 9001 Apr 2022 #1
When did a church start backing violance & war? I know about the Crusades but napi21 Apr 2022 #2
The Russian Orthodox has a long history of supporting the state. Xolodno Apr 2022 #4
Starovery, Dukhobory, Khilisty. Igel Apr 2022 #13
Surprised anyone knew what I was talking about. Xolodno Apr 2022 #14
It's the Christian right that backs the Trump cult nt doc03 Apr 2022 #10
Did Vlad hold a Bible upside down for a photo op? keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #3
Nope GregariousGroundhog Apr 2022 #16
He looks significantly better than he did the other day. dhol82 Apr 2022 #5
Perhaps it's Agent ZZZ, Putin's body double. 🤣 TheBlackAdder Apr 2022 #6
he looks very sad NJCher Apr 2022 #9
A fresh batch of children's blood? nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #11
We have to find his last Horcrux. dhol82 Apr 2022 #12
I had to Google that one :-) Carlitos Brigante Apr 2022 #17
Here's what I read: EX500rider Apr 2022 #18
Interesting dhol82 Apr 2022 #19
The hypocrisy just kills me. smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #7
Too bad God didn't strike him dead. sinkingfeeling Apr 2022 #8
My Easter wish for Russia... Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #15

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. When did a church start backing violance & war? I know about the Crusades but
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:57 PM
Apr 2022

that's ancient history. I'm asking about since the 20th century.

Next, they're going to tell us Putin is a very religious man!

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
4. The Russian Orthodox has a long history of supporting the state.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:31 PM
Apr 2022

The only time they didn't do it was under the USSR. Prior to the revolution, they supported the Tsar and he supported them, allowing them to persecute any and all other faiths. And they stamped down hard on any breakaway groups such as the "Stari Ved" (Old believers), Dukabors, Molokans, Khylysty, Subotniki, etc. They were not going to allow what they saw in the west during the Protestant Reformation.

Today Russia is still officially "secular", but the Orthodox Church gets a lot of privileges the others don't. And the Greek Orthodox church is considered the first among equals...but the Russian Orthodox church holds all the influence and power in Orthodoxy.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
13. Starovery, Dukhobory, Khilisty.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:46 PM
Apr 2022

Come on, yue gatta noe bedder.

Molokane and Dukhobory were subvarieties of Starovery. Gotta have the right number of fingers in the blessing.

WWII, Stalin's perfidy, changed Stalin. He needed unanimity and officially countenanced the ROC, which promptly supported him. Granted, it's a no-brainer. Negative solidarity works like that. But after 1941 or so there was an ROC seminary and the church was tolerated, although Party membership and church membership were pretty much mutually exclusive.

Okay, I exaggerate. Party membership and church membership were completely mutually exclusive.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
14. Surprised anyone knew what I was talking about.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:34 AM
Apr 2022

Molokans (milk drinker) was just a term for a bunch of unaffiliated break away groups. They really didn't come to prominence until a certain son-in-law broke away from the Dukabors and joined with them and created a more cohesive group. Most of the Subotniki eventually converted to Judaism. The Khlysiti is thought to have gone extinct, but I hear whispers...

And many of these groups can be found here in the USA, Australia, Canada and at one time, Mexico. Of course I'm speaking outside of the old Russian empire, which includes Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine, etc.

As for the Old Believers, they still revere icons. Most other groups condemned it. Wonder if Captain...what's his name? Imalyian? If his movement is still around, heard it was some time back, but, that was some time back.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,525 posts)
16. Nope
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:52 AM
Apr 2022

A little birdie told me that he arranged for a particular chalice of wine to be laced with polonium though.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
5. He looks significantly better than he did the other day.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:54 PM
Apr 2022

How?
He appeared very ill at that meeting with the finance minister. What’s up?

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
9. he looks very sad
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:45 PM
Apr 2022

in this video. In fact, when he crosses himself, he almost looks like he's going to cry.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
18. Here's what I read:
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 10:36 AM
Apr 2022
"....rumors of his health problems. These have been getting more attention, especially from Russian reporters with better access to Putin’s activities and appearance over the last few years. It’s no surprise that the 69-year-old Putin is often accompanied by doctors as he moves around. But one particular doctor who is often present is a thyroid cancer specialist."


https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russia/articles/20220405.aspx
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. The hypocrisy just kills me.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:25 PM
Apr 2022

Why do so many evil people hide behind religion when it's so clear that they are in violation of all its tenets?

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
15. My Easter wish for Russia...
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:43 AM
Apr 2022

Is that fire and brimstone will rain down onto all of their military forces in Ukraine, and that their economy and society will descend into the depths of Hell.

I'm not praying because I don't believe in god, but I am wishing and hoping.

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