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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:05 PM Apr 2022

I just had first-hand experience with Elon Musk's New Era Of Free Speech on Twitter

OK. so...

...Musk sends out a tweet saying "We need more love, less hate on Twitter."

So I replied and said that wouldn't happen if he reinstated Trump, that he is incapable of "less hate, more love," and that if he came back and his followers flocked after him, Twitter would be happy hour at the skinhead bar.

So Musk reported me for "hate speech."

And Twitter gave me the option of being banned...period...OR deleting my tweet as "an admission of guilt," followed by a period of 7 days in the penalty box, where i can read tweets, send private messages to my followers, and nothing else.

This is what "free speech" looks like, Elon Musk style.

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I just had first-hand experience with Elon Musk's New Era Of Free Speech on Twitter (Original Post) Miles Archer Apr 2022 OP
Musk ain't calling shots now. That months away, if acquisition goes through. Hoyt Apr 2022 #1
Oh, I understand he's not calling the shots, BUT... Miles Archer Apr 2022 #5
highly doubt it, it was VERY likely a QMAGAt Celerity Apr 2022 #12
Or a MusQteer. n/t John1956PA Apr 2022 #23
The richest man in the world with 88.8 MILLION Twitter followers... brooklynite Apr 2022 #26
But that doesn't mean that he hasn't created a bot that does it for him. littlemissmartypants Apr 2022 #44
Mr. free speech absolutist is blocking people who say things he doesn't like Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #15
Fuck little dick rocket man onecaliberal Apr 2022 #2
"Free speech" means unlimited hate speech from racists and fascists dalton99a Apr 2022 #3
I have tweeted ALL KINDS of flamethrower stuff Miles Archer Apr 2022 #9
well he is the boss Tickle Apr 2022 #39
I didn't bother Timewas Apr 2022 #4
But, but, he's a free speech absolutist, according to him Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #6
Welcome to 1984 in 2022. I don't go on Twitter so can you tell be if there are tweets begging Musk Raven Apr 2022 #7
Gosh, that's interesting, as Musk hasn't actually bought twitter yet Novara Apr 2022 #8
I know. I replied to him. He reported me. Miles Archer Apr 2022 #13
How do you know that he is the one that reported you? onenote Apr 2022 #21
It was most likely flagged by a bot and not a real person SoonerPride Apr 2022 #25
How do you know Musk was the one who reported you? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #10
He doesn't. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #46
I know. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #47
Yep. We all do. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #48
What makes you think Musk reported you, lol... WarGamer Apr 2022 #11
If they are using AI to monitor tweets why can't they restrict congress people from having the.. usaf-vet Apr 2022 #34
i'm pretty sure is premature to blame musk. mopinko Apr 2022 #14
Policies haven't changed, I doubt Musk would bother you Sympthsical Apr 2022 #16
How do you know Musk reported on your tweet? Can't anyone send a report? Make7 Apr 2022 #17
They don't tell you Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #20
Thanks, that's what I figured. Make7 Apr 2022 #22
Every day, more and more are tweeting screenshots of... displacedtexan Apr 2022 #40
I'm surprised Musk is allowed to ban people before he even owns the company. Make7 Apr 2022 #42
You can block anyone Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #43
His bias will become more apparent as time goes on. Baitball Blogger Apr 2022 #18
How do you know it was Musk? Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #19
a "free speech absolutist" RussBLib Apr 2022 #24
It's kind of funny that you think Musk gives a crap about what you say. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #27
You included the word "skinhead" NotTodayPutin Apr 2022 #28
"Free speech" is incredibly expensive. n/t Harker Apr 2022 #29
It was the word "skinhead" Catherine Vincent Apr 2022 #30
If Must completes sale, hope new site begins asap. Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #31
I have read in other sites most people, instead of replying to his Bev54 Apr 2022 #32
Okay, that does it. I rarely go to Twitter, but I'm canceling my account. OMGWTF Apr 2022 #33
Who needs Twitter? I prefer life pre-social media Cozmo Apr 2022 #35
I have one thing to say about twitter: just don't. infullview Apr 2022 #36
Not surprise whether it's him or some other right-wing pos. They're the same rockfordfile Apr 2022 #37
Elon Musk turned me into a newt! Bonx Apr 2022 #38
I got better nt Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #41
Great scene NotTodayPutin Apr 2022 #49
sorry that happened to you. he is a nasty man. Trueblue1968 Apr 2022 #45

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
5. Oh, I understand he's not calling the shots, BUT...
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:11 PM
Apr 2022

...since I replied to him, I'm gonna stand by my assumption that he reported me.

brooklynite

(94,893 posts)
26. The richest man in the world with 88.8 MILLION Twitter followers...
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 03:09 PM
Apr 2022

Isn't checking his notifications list.

littlemissmartypants

(22,850 posts)
44. But that doesn't mean that he hasn't created a bot that does it for him.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 07:41 PM
Apr 2022

It's called artificial intelligence for a reason.

Doc Sportello

(7,541 posts)
15. Mr. free speech absolutist is blocking people who say things he doesn't like
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:15 PM
Apr 2022

So there's your current example of him calling the shots and exhibiting that he only believes in absolute free speech for himself. But I'm sure you can come up with another irrelevant excuse to explain your hero's hypocrisy.

dalton99a

(81,667 posts)
3. "Free speech" means unlimited hate speech from racists and fascists
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:08 PM
Apr 2022

Any rebuttal will be marked as a violation of this freedom






Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
9. I have tweeted ALL KINDS of flamethrower stuff
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

I reply to Jordan, Boebert, Gaetz, Graham, Greene ALL THE TIME.

Nothing.

One reply to Musk and I'm in jail for a week.

As I said above, no...he's not in charge yet...but this is the writing on the wall for when he is, I'd say.

Timewas

(2,199 posts)
4. I didn't bother
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:09 PM
Apr 2022

No more posts there, you can see the hand writing on the wall.. Just canceled my account..

Doc Sportello

(7,541 posts)
6. But, but, he's a free speech absolutist, according to him
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:11 PM
Apr 2022

Unless you say something he doesn't like. Just what we need, a total hypocrite, egomaniac, amoral POS in charge of one of the largest media platforms in the world.

Raven

(13,907 posts)
7. Welcome to 1984 in 2022. I don't go on Twitter so can you tell be if there are tweets begging Musk
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

to reinstate TFG because he is the real president and the second coming of Christ? I bet there are. Also, it seems to me that Musk has come eye to eye with the problem of distinguishing between "hate" speech and simple criticism.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
13. I know. I replied to him. He reported me.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:14 PM
Apr 2022

I'm not saying he did it as CEO of Twitter.

I'm saying that he reported me for "hate speech" and I got sent to Twitter Jail. I'm saying it is a PREVIEW of when he DOES take charge.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
25. It was most likely flagged by a bot and not a real person
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 03:04 PM
Apr 2022

They have bots skimming all tweets for key words which trigger suspensions.

Possibly reviewed by a live human.

But most likely not.

The entire flood of tweets is beyond the ability of an army of humans to police.

It is all automated.

I doubt Musk nor anyone else reported it.

WarGamer

(12,491 posts)
11. What makes you think Musk reported you, lol...
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

Was probably just the algorithm/AI that got you.

And you DO know that Musk has no control whatsoever over Twitter right now, right?

usaf-vet

(6,232 posts)
34. If they are using AI to monitor tweets why can't they restrict congress people from having the..
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 04:18 PM
Apr 2022

.....ability to deny tweets on their official accounts as MTG did over and over during her court hearing last week.

I think by definition Congresspeople need to be held completely responsible for ALL tweets posted on their OFFICIAL Twitter account.

NO DENYING RESPONSIBILITY by saying "I don't know who posted that."

mopinko

(70,294 posts)
14. i'm pretty sure is premature to blame musk.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:15 PM
Apr 2022

he hasnt even signed the paperwork, much less rewritten the manual and trained the moderators.

Sympthsical

(9,165 posts)
16. Policies haven't changed, I doubt Musk would bother you
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:18 PM
Apr 2022

What likely happened is that a lot of people are reading his tweets and replies, and various political types are reporting whomever they don't like.

This is the kind of censorship people claim they want to keep, so I don't get why the complaining. People get suspended/banned for a lot less every day. It just depends if you can get a large enough group together to start spamming reports against targets.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
17. How do you know Musk reported on your tweet? Can't anyone send a report?
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:18 PM
Apr 2022

(I'm obviously not a Twitter user.)

It seems strange they would include the identity of the person(s) that reported a tweet in their message to whomever was alerted on.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
20. They don't tell you
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:26 PM
Apr 2022

Anyone can report any tweet they see.

MAGA folks do a lot of mass reporting and brigade people. Any little comment that doesn't agree with their worldview is reported. And Twitter's AI isn't great it parsing through actual bad content. You can say, "I don't like white bread," and it'll get removed. 🙄

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
40. Every day, more and more are tweeting screenshots of...
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 05:04 PM
Apr 2022

…their YOU ARE BANNED by Elon Musk Twitter notifications. I expect one any time now.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
42. I'm surprised Musk is allowed to ban people before he even owns the company.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 06:46 PM
Apr 2022
April 27, 2022

...

Until the deal closes, which could take up to six months, Agrawal said, “[Twitter] will continue making decisions as we always have, guided by the principles we’ve had, which doesn’t mean things won’t change. Things have been changing. I’ve been in this role for four months,” Agrawal explained. “Once the deal closes, different decisions might be made. For us to gain insight into that, we’ll be finding a way to have Elon talk with all of you at the soonest possible opportunity,” he said.

...

https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/27/twitter-leaked-all-hands-call/

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
43. You can block anyone
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 07:12 PM
Apr 2022

You can block anyone from seeing your account - just like putting someone on ignore here on DU. The person you block can no longer see your account, tweets, replies, etc. Now, that is done by individual account, not IP. So, if someone blocks you, you can just create a new account and see their content.

Musk isn't banning anyone from Twitter outright, just blocking their accounts from seeing his.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
19. How do you know it was Musk?
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 02:24 PM
Apr 2022

Anyone can report any tweet they see. Twitter doesn't tell you who made the reports. RWers are out there brigading dems - mass reporting tweets and accounts. Twitter's algorithm is ridiculous and innocuous tweets are removed repeatedly. My one and only reported tweet came when I said, "the Cowboys suck." Hate speech, apparently.

Is there an option to ask for a review of the decision? Facebook allows that - it usually triggers a human to review it - but I'm unsure if Twitter allows the same.

Has Musk blocked you, yet? That's the badge of honor.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,002 posts)
27. It's kind of funny that you think Musk gives a crap about what you say.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 03:12 PM
Apr 2022

You were flagged by an algorithm. Musk has ZERO say in what Twitter does yet.

 

NotTodayPutin

(86 posts)
28. You included the word "skinhead"
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 03:21 PM
Apr 2022

someone, not likely to have been Musk, reported, got a 7 day suspension.

No policies or TOS have changed on twitter that I am aware of.

You can appeal it.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
30. It was the word "skinhead"
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 04:08 PM
Apr 2022

Twitter suspended me for typing "On election day, republicans need to be kicked to the curb" with "kicked" being the code word. The formula that tags certain words is ridiculous. I was suspended for a week and apparently you only get 1 or 2 warnings before you get permanently suspended. Which is what happened when I suggested someone should slap Howard Stern. As if a nobody like me with only a few hundred followers would stalk HS and slap him. They should give you the option to delete the tweet. Ridiculous!

Bev54

(10,087 posts)
32. I have read in other sites most people, instead of replying to his
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 04:15 PM
Apr 2022

numerous and annoying tweets, they are just blocking him altogether and carrying on.

infullview

(982 posts)
36. I have one thing to say about twitter: just don't.
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 04:57 PM
Apr 2022

I've never had a twitter account and never will. Twitter is littered with self indulgent, almost famous people that feed their ego by the number of followers they have. It's a breeding ground for influencer wannabe's. It's the TicToc of word salad.

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