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peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:36 PM May 2022

Pro-Choice Advocate John Fetterman Jumps Another 12 Pts In Recent Poll

John Fetterman's strongest moment in the last PA Senate debate in Carlisle was his strong advocacy for reproductive rights, the Right to Choose, a woman's right to control her own body and reproductive destiny. In todays's swirling SCOTUS controversy over Roe vs Wade, those comments are ever more timely and important.

John Fetterman used the word 'sacred' and also suggested that a 'Right to Choose' position should serve as a litmus test for all judicial selections. There was a time when the idea of judicial litmus tests regarding pro-choice was considered over-the-top, hysterical. At least, that's what I recall the opposition shouting.

I suspect few would consider anything over-the-top after yesterday's first-draft disclosure of stripping away a 50-year precedent.

In any case, John Fetterman has again jumped ahead of the pack in a new F&M poll:

Mr. Fetterman, Pennsylvania’s lieutenant governor, leads U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb 53% to 14% in the new poll, which surveyed 357 registered Democrats from April 20 to May 1. State Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta registered in third place at 4%, with Jenkintown Councilwoman Alex Khalil trailing the pack at 1%.

This represents a 12-point bump for Mr. Fetterman since the last F&M poll, conducted in early April when he was at 41%. In that time frame, Mr. Lamb dropped 3 points and Mr. Kenyatta didn’t move the needle.


Conor Lamb has complained about the poll's small sampling number (357) which is reasonable considering he's running a distant second. With a mere two weeks in the primary race, I'm guessing John Fetterman is smiling (cautiously), not only by the spread but by his increased approval numbers (67% among registered Dems).

We're almost there!


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2022/05/05/pa-us-senate-poll-john-fetterman-dr-oz-david-mccormick-conor-lamb-2022-election/stories/202205050070

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Pro-Choice Advocate John Fetterman Jumps Another 12 Pts In Recent Poll (Original Post) peggysue2 May 2022 OP
More Dems should emphasize their pro-choice creds this summer... Wounded Bear May 2022 #1
Yes, Yes & Yes! peggysue2 May 2022 #5
+1 -K&R onetexan May 2022 #34
It's a given that Fetterman wins the primary Polybius May 2022 #2
Either/Or on the Republican side are virulently Anti-Choice, Anti-Women, Anti-Freedom peggysue2 May 2022 #6
True Polybius May 2022 #10
You're talking about the Gilead Party, right? dchill May 2022 #50
Wow! blue neen May 2022 #3
I love it, too! peggysue2 May 2022 #8
With PA Democratic primaries decided, some PA Dems may choose to vote in the GOP Primary bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
Strategically that might work since most think Oz is the weaker candidate peggysue2 May 2022 #11
NO they won't..... brooklynite May 2022 #15
Good point! peggysue2 May 2022 #17
Correct, the last day to change registration is bucolic_frolic May 2022 #20
Fetterman impresses me more than Lamb. Emile May 2022 #7
There's nothing inherently wrong with Conor Lamb peggysue2 May 2022 #14
Thus, the "ideal candidate" doesn't have real juice or excite the electorate? aocommunalpunch May 2022 #16
On paper, I think Conor Lamb is the ideal candidate peggysue2 May 2022 #30
The problem for Lamb is all the candidates like him that came before and were kind of forced Demsrule86 May 2022 #52
Agreed peggysue2 May 2022 #56
Yeah well, given there stance on guns, I doubt very much them carrying on about the gun Demsrule86 May 2022 #58
Would like to see the re-publican call him a snowflake... multigraincracker May 2022 #60
Where are the naysayers and Debbie Downers? Rob H. May 2022 #9
Fetterman will instantaneously become the most progressive voice in the Senate. StrictlyRockers May 2022 #12
More than Sanders? More than Warren and Markey? I doubt that. Celerity May 2022 #18
Ok "one of" StrictlyRockers May 2022 #21
Well, the one main thing (and I am a strong Fetterman supporter, just search DU to see this) Celerity May 2022 #22
And we are in total agreement. StrictlyRockers May 2022 #23
I do not look at it as an argument over 'nothing'. I simply disagreed with the statement Celerity May 2022 #27
Well I agree - Sanders and probably Warren and Markey more liberal mvd May 2022 #70
Yes, I think Fetterman will make a great Senator, with far less concern that he will go all Manchin Celerity May 2022 #71
He can't be against fracking now...but he wants to move away with it with renewable energy Demsrule86 May 2022 #41
Yes, I certainly am not going to lose my mind over one thing, & that thing (fracking) has a limited Celerity May 2022 #44
I voted for Obama twice knowing he favored more trade bills...which as a rustbelt Demsrule86 May 2022 #53
Unfortunately Bernie Sanders isn't a member of our Party FakeNoose May 2022 #33
Sanders is in the Democratic Caucus, and I fail to see what point you are trying to make in Celerity May 2022 #40
It reminds me of school Sympthsical May 2022 #65
Fetterman has the potential to be a Rockstar in the Democratic Part and is a potential Demsrule86 May 2022 #42
Why smear Sanders? FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #72
What will that progressive voice say? brooklynite May 2022 #19
I think supporting unions is progressive. blue neen May 2022 #26
I don't see marijuana legalization as a significantly "progressive" issue. brooklynite May 2022 #31
Really? How many Senate Republicans are supporting legalizing pot? blue neen May 2022 #35
At this point, I have every expectation that Fetterman will win the Primary... brooklynite May 2022 #38
That we can agree on that...PA is a big opportunity...you just don't like Fetterman which is fine. Demsrule86 May 2022 #55
I see pot as a progressive issue...it is legal in Ohio and has helped my husband with pain Demsrule86 May 2022 #54
That issue helps with the youth and Blue Collar vote. multigraincracker May 2022 #62
Google also exists Rob H. May 2022 #32
Yeah, I saw that. blue neen May 2022 #36
It is! Rob H. May 2022 #46
Maybe he thought you were a lost cause in terms of winning your support. It is a shame you Demsrule86 May 2022 #43
Good to see this. NT Celerity May 2022 #13
Good, no wishy washy bs n/t hibbing May 2022 #24
53 to 44? iemanja May 2022 #25
Fetterman is ahead no question. Connor Lamb in the older polls was losing by nearly 30 Demsrule86 May 2022 #45
Fetterman was leading Lamb in the older polls by almost 30 points. I bet this is close to Demsrule86 May 2022 #59
Do we know how Fetterman would do against a Republican Marius25 May 2022 #28
The polls I have seen, he beats them all...the closest one was Oz... Fetterman Demsrule86 May 2022 #48
Hmm Budi May 2022 #29
I have no idea what you are talking about. Demsrule86 May 2022 #49
53 to 14. That's quite the margin. Wingus Dingus May 2022 #37
There are three Tickle May 2022 #73
I am a big Fetterman fan...he rocks! Demsrule86 May 2022 #39
My mother just moved to Yinzer land in New Castle and she can't WAIT to vote for Big John! AZLD4Candidate May 2022 #47
Just 4 short years ago we were cheering on Connor Lamb. SleeplessinSoCal May 2022 #51
That was for a house seat...in a red district...but consider 18 was a great year for us...lot's Demsrule86 May 2022 #57
We still cheer him Renew Deal May 2022 #61
Will he still be in Congress if he loses Senate bid? SleeplessinSoCal May 2022 #63
Yes, Lamb is not going to win the primary. Thus will stay in the House. Demsrule86 May 2022 #68
For sure...we need that seat. Demsrule86 May 2022 #66
Sensible centrist is getting smooshed Sympthsical May 2022 #64
Do you know how many sensible centrist have lost this seat? Too many. Demsrule86 May 2022 #67
And it sounds like Pennsylvania Democrats know it Sympthsical May 2022 #69
That's the explanation right there. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #74
Good! FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #75

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
5. Yes, Yes & Yes!
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:44 PM
May 2022

Because the Republicans are already squirming and/or erasing anti-abortion drum beats from their literature.

Make them own this and keep reminding voters that Republicans = the Handmaid's Party.

Polybius

(14,905 posts)
2. It's a given that Fetterman wins the primary
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:39 PM
May 2022

What's not known is on the Republican side. Oz is up by just 2% over McCormick.

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
6. Either/Or on the Republican side are virulently Anti-Choice, Anti-Women, Anti-Freedom
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:50 PM
May 2022

Make them own it, make them hear references to Gilead until their heads explode.

Dog catches car!

bucolic_frolic

(42,023 posts)
4. With PA Democratic primaries decided, some PA Dems may choose to vote in the GOP Primary
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:43 PM
May 2022

Because it is pleasurable to vote - twice in the same year perhaps - against Dr. Oz, Mastriano, and a local GOP Congressman.

Just sayin'.

Better hurry though. I think party registration must be changed 10 days before the May 17 primary.

On Edit: The last day for changing party registration for the primary was May 2nd, 2022. So too late now. I should not rely on memory.

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
11. Strategically that might work since most think Oz is the weaker candidate
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:58 PM
May 2022

Personally? I just can't do it for this race bc I'm really excited about voting for Fetterman. I've also waited over 20 years to vote once again in PA where a Dem victory is a realistic outcome.

As a Dem? Living in Tennessee was a bummer.

brooklynite

(93,055 posts)
15. NO they won't.....
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:07 PM
May 2022
In Pennsylvania, you can only vote for the candidates in the same political party you have named in your voter registration.

https://www.vote.pa.gov/About-Elections/Pages/Types%20of%20Elections.aspx


Its too late to change registration.

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
14. There's nothing inherently wrong with Conor Lamb
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:06 PM
May 2022

In fact, on paper he's the ideal candidate. I just think in this race, in this year we need someone with real juice, someone to get the electorate excited about voting and can appeal to the everyman/everywoman.

John Fetterman has that potential, a gift for reaching out and leaving an impression. It's a different impression than what we're accustomed to but in this political climate 'different/unique/the working man's whisperer' is having an impact.

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
30. On paper, I think Conor Lamb is the ideal candidate
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:05 PM
May 2022

He checks off all the boxes of what we normally expect.

It just doesn't work this year.

Not after all the turmoil and angst the country has experienced. Voters yearn for something different. They may not even know what that 'different' means but they know pretty damn quick John Fetterman is not business as usual.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
52. The problem for Lamb is all the candidates like him that came before and were kind of forced
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:44 PM
May 2022

on us lost (I lived in PA). Katie McGinty was the last straw as far as I am concerned. And I do not like how Connor conducted himself during the primary...attacking a fellow Democrat even when losing and unlikely to be the nominee.

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
56. Agreed
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:01 PM
May 2022

I think Dems are looking for someone/something different and Fetterman fits the bill.

As for the piling on during the primary campaign? I think that's pretty normal, be it Lamb or Kenyatta. And yes, it's been pretty rough. But . . . it's a prelude to what Fetterman is going to catch during the GE. The Republicans will be out for blood and eyeballs.

Then (unfortunately) the primary will look like a picnic.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
58. Yeah well, given there stance on guns, I doubt very much them carrying on about the gun
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:06 PM
May 2022

the incident will help them. I think Connor hurt himself by bringing this up over and over in every debate.

StrictlyRockers

(3,854 posts)
12. Fetterman will instantaneously become the most progressive voice in the Senate.
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:00 PM
May 2022

I have been pushing for him for years. I'm glad to see him winning the primary, I have no doubt he will do well against Mister Oz or whichever clown the GOP puts up.

Celerity

(41,977 posts)
22. Well, the one main thing (and I am a strong Fetterman supporter, just search DU to see this)
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:39 PM
May 2022

that I do disagree with Fetterman on is fracking. That said, if that is what it takes to win in PA, then it's fine with me.

StrictlyRockers

(3,854 posts)
23. And we are in total agreement.
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:45 PM
May 2022

I think of DU as something like Monty Python's Ministry of Arguments sketch. It's where you go if you want to have an argument with someone over nothing. Thank you for keeping the place consistent.

Celerity

(41,977 posts)
27. I do not look at it as an argument over 'nothing'. I simply disagreed with the statement
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:57 PM
May 2022
Fetterman will instantaneously become the most progressive voice in the Senate.

mvd

(65,120 posts)
70. Well I agree - Sanders and probably Warren and Markey more liberal
Thu May 5, 2022, 06:48 PM
May 2022

And I don’t fully agree with Fetterman on fracking, but someone who keeps it as an option might play well here in PA. A refreshing candidate.

Celerity

(41,977 posts)
71. Yes, I think Fetterman will make a great Senator, with far less concern that he will go all Manchin
Thu May 5, 2022, 07:10 PM
May 2022

and Sinema maverick rogue obstructionist mode than Lamb perhaps would have.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
41. He can't be against fracking now...but he wants to move away with it with renewable energy
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:29 PM
May 2022

with the technology made here at home in PA and the rest of the rustbelt...this is PA remember.

Celerity

(41,977 posts)
44. Yes, I certainly am not going to lose my mind over one thing, & that thing (fracking) has a limited
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:33 PM
May 2022

lifespan anyway. I just hope we can mitigate the damage it does when measured on pretty much every intersectional measure in terms of negative environmental impact and global climate change.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
53. I voted for Obama twice knowing he favored more trade bills...which as a rustbelt
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:53 PM
May 2022

girl, I vehemently oppose. I am not a one-issue voter...never was. When it comes down to elections, I vote in all of them and always vote Democratic. Fracking is going away because it is not cost-efficient like coal.

FakeNoose

(32,018 posts)
33. Unfortunately Bernie Sanders isn't a member of our Party
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:13 PM
May 2022

However I believe that John Fetterman - should he be elected to the Senate - would become one of the most progressive Dems we have. He doesn't back down easily and he's a natural leader.

Celerity

(41,977 posts)
40. Sanders is in the Democratic Caucus, and I fail to see what point you are trying to make in
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:29 PM
May 2022

terms of what the post I replied (and disagreed with) to actually said:

Fetterman will instantaneously become the most progressive voice in the Senate.


No mention of Party was made.

Sympthsical

(8,552 posts)
65. It reminds me of school
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:59 PM
May 2022

When I was young, I used to spend so much time on what stickers I wanted to put on the outside of my Trapper Keeper.

Once I was older, I realized I was more interested in what was inside the folders.

I've learned to never underestimate the power and endurance of that sticker phase.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
42. Fetterman has the potential to be a Rockstar in the Democratic Part and is a potential
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:30 PM
May 2022

presidential pick for 28.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,318 posts)
72. Why smear Sanders?
Thu May 5, 2022, 07:45 PM
May 2022

He works harder for liberal Democratic policy than some elected politicians with that "D" after their names.

He worked his ass off to get both Clinton and Biden elected, and has worked hard supporting Biden. Unlike two specific Senators who have worked against Biden.

He also didn't endorse a republicon liar over her Democratic opponent.

brooklynite

(93,055 posts)
19. What will that progressive voice say?
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:21 PM
May 2022

He didn't mention any progressive goals (MfA, Wealth Tax, etc) when I met with him.

I wonder if some people like his "image" and are projecting their political principles on to him.

blue neen

(12,303 posts)
26. I think supporting unions is progressive.
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:57 PM
May 2022

What about legalizing marijuana? Fetterman visited every county in PA (67) to talk to citizens about this very issue.

It's possible that a number of people, including me, would not pass your progressive one-visit-litmus-test.

brooklynite

(93,055 posts)
31. I don't see marijuana legalization as a significantly "progressive" issue.
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:07 PM
May 2022

If anything, its basic libertarianism.

As for me, I'm confident that all three candidates I talked to would pass my "litmus tests" (reproductive rights, firearms regulations and progressive taxation); that said, my opinions on Fetterman v. Lamb have nothing to do with which one is closer to my policy opinions; they have to do with which is more electable, for which gaining an understanding of what they plan to campaign on and how the total electorate will react to them.

blue neen

(12,303 posts)
35. Really? How many Senate Republicans are supporting legalizing pot?
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:18 PM
May 2022

...and it looks like the PA Democratic electorate sees Fetterman as the candidate who is most electable.

brooklynite

(93,055 posts)
38. At this point, I have every expectation that Fetterman will win the Primary...
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:23 PM
May 2022

I'll still need to make my own judgement as to whether I invest in his campaign or focus on what my model says are more winnable races.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
54. I see pot as a progressive issue...it is legal in Ohio and has helped my husband with pain
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:56 PM
May 2022

enormously after his two back-to-back surgeries. I use it too occasionally as I hurt my shoulder...very helpful and won't kill my liver like Advil or Tylenol.

Rob H.

(5,321 posts)
46. It is!
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:36 PM
May 2022

If I were going to meet someone I would research first so I'd be able to ask intelligent questions or get him to expand on things that I felt needed clarification. Dunno why some are acting as if he's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma regarding his political stances. He's been pretty clear on those things for a long time now.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
43. Maybe he thought you were a lost cause in terms of winning your support. It is a shame you
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:32 PM
May 2022

seem to be so prejudiced against Fettermand that you can't support him...he is going to be our candidate. And I believe he will win and give us a Senate seat.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
45. Fetterman is ahead no question. Connor Lamb in the older polls was losing by nearly 30
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:36 PM
May 2022

points. Lamb's strategy to attack Fetterman non-stop in the debates didn't pay off. I didn't expect that it would and he wasted all that time when he could have put his ideas out. Fetterman did not attack anyone.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
59. Fetterman was leading Lamb in the older polls by almost 30 points. I bet this is close to
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:09 PM
May 2022

the margin on election day. Lamb is and has been losing for some time.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
48. The polls I have seen, he beats them all...the closest one was Oz... Fetterman
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:37 PM
May 2022

was ahead by two. But there has been limited polling on this.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
29. Hmm
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:02 PM
May 2022

But some "pro-choice" Dem candidates are being told that's not good enough.

Some but not all?
What gives?

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
57. That was for a house seat...in a red district...but consider 18 was a great year for us...lot's
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:02 PM
May 2022

of upsets...and that was the only time he ran in a red district...they redid the district after his first run. He also voted with Trump 68% of the time in his first year. That being said I would vote for him if he was the candidate. I would vote for Satan himself if he ran as a Democrat. Not saying Connor is Satan...he is a good person in general. LOL

Renew Deal

(81,679 posts)
61. We still cheer him
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:33 PM
May 2022

Last edited Thu May 5, 2022, 06:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Just not in this race. Fetterman is a great candidate. That doesn’t mean that Lamb is a bad person. He gave one of the best speeches about 1/6.

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,834 posts)
63. Will he still be in Congress if he loses Senate bid?
Thu May 5, 2022, 05:53 PM
May 2022

I wonder that about all the Dems running for the Senate...

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
66. For sure...we need that seat.
Thu May 5, 2022, 06:26 PM
May 2022

I don't dislike Connor...he annoyed me during the primary...but that is a primary for you. I just don't think he wins the PA senate seat. I believe Fetterman can win.

Demsrule86

(67,948 posts)
67. Do you know how many sensible centrist have lost this seat? Too many.
Thu May 5, 2022, 06:29 PM
May 2022

Fetterman transcends those sorts of politics...he has broad appeal.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,318 posts)
74. That's the explanation right there.
Thu May 5, 2022, 07:50 PM
May 2022

"sensible centrist".

We need liberal progressives that will speak up. Liberal policies are what is best for the public.

It's a shame so many democrats run away from that.

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