Mad Men & Witches

[H2O Man]

I will speculate that no member of the DU community has been searching the site to find my opinion on the Supreme Court and abortion. More, none of those who "lurk" from time to time are interested. But I am hopeful that one or two of you will be interested in another opinion .....

Watching the Lawrence O'Donnell report (above), I was reminded of conversations I had with Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman that touched on this topic. Among the Six Nations of the Iroquois, there are some who identify as Christian, some who follow the Code of Handsome Lake ( who combined traditional beliefs with some Quaker influence), and the traditional Longhouse people.

Paul was Longhouse.This means he went by the teachings of Sapling, the Peace Maker, and the real "Hiawatha." He respected that Handsome Lake (1735 -- 1815) had a powerful vision in 1798, that told of the environmental crisis that we are experiencing today. He was a revival prophet, and his grave is at the Onondaga's Longhouse. Paul's differences with Handsome Lake are instead from his life in the early 1800s, when he became powerful.

Besides his visions of the future of the soil, water, and air, Handsome Lake taught his followers to avoid using alcohol, cards, and money. He was also opposed to abortion and fiddles. The Iroquois women knew of a plant that when consumed resulted in abortion. When Longhouse women continued to use the plant, Handsome Lake thought it was a challenge to his authority. Paul explained that Handsome Lake called these women "witches." Shocking, I know.

Paul said that Handsome Lake had allowed "power" to confuse his mind. He began advocating violence against "witches." Paul said that, because the post-Revolutionary War era was one of decline for the Iroquois, which may have been why Handsome Lake advocated for more births. But he said that's like Christians believed that beating off was a sin, dating back to when the tribes of Israel's numbers needed increasing..

So it's really not a surprise when a dick-dripping like Samuel Alito's draft relies upon the teachings of Edward Coke:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/the-most-extreme-lines-from-justice-samuel-alitos-leaked-opinion-on-roe.html

And it is no surprise that Coke was against abortion and witches that didn't believe he was the moral authority. Like Paul said of Handsome Lake, he mistook his thoughts for those of the Creator. In the Original Instructions/ Ten Commandments, this is spiritual theft. It results in individuals going from speaking of the Creator, to mistakenly thinking they speak for the Creator. Paul said they have snakes coming out of their heads. Such rigid minds often babble about others going to hell. They are too confused to know they are in hell, a state of unconsciousness.

Thus, they fear people who do not share their religious beliefs, especially women that refuse to go by their code of superstitions. They are convinced that they are in a "holy war" that pits people of their faith with Black Lives Matter, antifa, and witches. They are haunted by the very idea of orgasms not intended for procreation. I remember Paul saying that Europeans had abandoned the art of oral sex -- "probably because they didn't bathe often" -- until they came into contact with his grandfathers. Is this not the chapter that Dante edited out of his Inferno, due to the cruely and horror? No wonder Europeans had chips on their shoulders. No wonder why white women frequently preferred Iroquois society.

I'm reminded of Ecclesiastes 1 : 9 -- "The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done; and there is no new thing under the sun." We have been confronted by such aggressive ignorance before ..... and we have kicked their asses. It's time to do so again.

[pwb]

1. My teachings say we are judged as individuals and

our free will decides much of that judgement. I am not judged by your deeds and you are not judged by mine. Republicans perverted religion as we knew it. We will beat them to the ground in the Midterms for that.

[H2O Man]

2. Right.

I agree fully that we will devastate the republicans in November.

I was just talking to an old friend. Many years ago, she and I attempted to infiltrate Randal Terry's "Operation Rescue," which started in Binghamton, NY. In my opinion, we need to fight them on all fronts, using every weapon at our disposal.

[2naSalit]

3. K&R

[H2O Man]

5. Thanks!

[Hekate]

4. Thank you

I’m in a hole right now. I’m the unseen mother in this cartoon…

[H2O Man]

6. Thank you!

One of the things I find interesting is how few "pro-life" people I know invest effort into trying to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Doing things like advocating for sex education in school, recognizing not all kids get that at home. Advocating making methods of birth control cheap -- I'd prefer free -- and available. Simple things like that. Of those I know, I'd say it's less than 3% of them.