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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter the open hearings are completed there is a very good chance this will happen.
Some people in Trumps inner circle are going to realize they are in great legal jeopardy. The committee has the evidence, they are going to prove people are guilty. Some people, I have been saying Meadows from the beginning, are going to make a deal to save themselves.
Things are going to snow ball, this is usually what happens.
There is going to be more than enough evidence to indict people in Trumps inner circle. We just need Garland to do it and I think he will.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)No one knows why Garland hasn't charged Meadows. You look at it as bad news, Garland is doing nothing. There may be a very good reason Garland has not acted yet.
BruceWane
(345 posts)That referral was for contempt, following Meadow's refusal to comply with the committee's subpoena.
Completely separate from any potential indictment for criminal acts regarding participation in the insurrection.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)The banks were "too big to fail". I hope this is not a case "too big to prosecute".
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... go into effect.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)The RW will bloviate about freedom and the public moving on from J6. The media will take cues from the Republicans and will move on after a day or so. Garland will continue to sit on his hands and do nothing. Come Labor Day people will shift attention to the upcoming election instead of the previous one, allowing the J6 hearings and committee to be memory holed without any significant actions taking place.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)But considering past history on oh so many things that we have seen in our life times, If I were a betting man..............
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)But be advised there are those here objecting to those of us with that opinion.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)Nothing will happen.
The media will turn it into a horse race.
Pundits will have a field day.
The New York Times will blame joe Biden.
Fox will place the blame on hunter Bidens laptop.
Then
crickets.
I know, its easier to be a pessimist. But Im going with the odds. If Im wrong I will apologize.
GoodRaisin
(8,923 posts)I think theres a very good chance M$M will talk about it and talk about it and nothing will be done.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)wrong doing, not just tons more of evidence that they are unfit for office.
I think the best we get out of the hearings is that trump and his close aides aren't fit to hold office. Everyone knows that, some just don't care.
If the hearings are just a big show running right up to midterms -- with hundreds of unconnectble dots and more of what we already know -- there's a good chance the 5 to 10% of swing voters who determine elections nowadays will see it as a ploy.
But who knows.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)1. "individual one." slam dunk case because Cohen was convicted of paying off Stormy Daniels with a check signed by Donald Trump.
2. 10 obstruction of justice cases that Mueller laid out.
When Liz Cheney publicly states that Trump should be prosecuted for impeding an official act of Congress, knowing that she has more evidence than we have, I believe her.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)it's past time to show it.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)You have given up and are making excuses for why you have given up.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Only a small percentage of people are even following this story - so Im beginning to doubt we can depend on public outrage as a driving force for justice. I hope Garland is is doing some kind of four dimensional legal jujitsu but I suspect his Justice Department is not up to the task.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)On the other hand, I also believe that many people will simply continue to insist that the DOJ won't take any action. I think they're wrong, and have said so on many occasions.
Only a Grand Jury can indict. Garland can't on his own. Until a Grand Jury sees evidence of criminality, there won't be indictments at the top level. We don't know what the House committee will refer to the DOJ. We will find out following their public hearings, and not before.
We don't know what the DOJ is considering doing, because it is silent on that for now.
It is foolish to continue to declare that the DOJ will NOT act. We don't have enough information to say that as though it is settled truth.
So, once again, I say that I don't know what the DOJ will or will not do. I'm in no position to make any such declarations, and neither is anyone else who is not a current active participant in the DOJ's investigations. I am waiting to see. We will know when we know, and not before that.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,378 posts)You're absolutely correct, nobody here has any clue as to what AG Garland and the DoJ are doing, as it should be, AG Garland isn't going to advertise what evidence they have against those involved in the insurrection on 1/6 until GJ indictments are handed down.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I will not work to undermine confidence in that process. Nope.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)What bothers me is there is overwhelming evidence out in the open for all to see and people say nothing will happen or there is no evidence. It is simply not true. Something is going happen, we don't know what, but from the evidence I have seen I would not want to be in a lot of peoples shoes.
albacore
(2,399 posts)BigMin28
(1,176 posts)in Attorney General Merrick Garland than I do. I wish I were wrong, but I don't think he has the stomach to hold the repubs responsible for their actions. Look no further than the charges and sentences already handed down to those that broke in to the Capitol on
Jan. 6.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)but I believe he is an honorable man. His reluctance to investigate high ranking officials is because he is an institutionalist. He believes that prosecuting high ranking government officials will do harm to our institutions. My opinion is that his not being partisan is in fact being partisan.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It may stop them from indicting a president, but that's about it.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)The fix is already in. Stall. Stall. Stall.
Meadows isnt going to turn or he would already have done so. Hes not going to make a deal because either (1) he knows he will be safe because he knows that the fix is in to reinstall Trump in 2024, or (2) hes so far into this shit that if he stops doing what hes told by Putin/Trump and whoever else may be pulling the strings, he knows hes a dead man probably along with any family he cares about.
My opinion. Worth nothing. But just as valid as any other speculation voiced here - and probably more realistic than some.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)The leader of the Putin party is still Putin puppet, Donald Trump and until members of the GQP publicly renounce Donald Trump they are all complicit.
I know this, the Congressional GQP does not vote for Democrats, VP Harris had to just break another tie to confirm Lisa Cook as the 1st Black woman on the Federal Reserve Board. Why then did 10 members of the GQP vote to confirm Merrick Garland, including pro-Russian Ron Johnson? Just asking. Seems out of character. Mike Lee also recommended Garland to Trump to replace James Comey. Just asking.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)In my opinion.
Have you noticed the change of tone now among some of the it takes time to indict crowd on DU? Its now more theres not enough to convict.
I have been purposely watching some posters expecting that subtle change, and I am starting to see it. Another good question to ask
in my opinion.
Beastly Boy
(9,345 posts)To insinuate a certain predisposition, or are you genuinely interested in the answer?
If it is the latter, I am pretty sure that out of character is not it.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Yep.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)fall on their sword?
usually is always one, but this time?
not so much.
the sociopaths and psychopaths are all running for the train to escape.
Tacan
(97 posts)After the J6 committee releases their evidence, Garland will do NOTHING. There is so much evidence of crimes that were committed that Garland is either completely incompetent or in on the fix.
He won't even enforce a subpoena.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Garland evidently does not know he can seek an indictment (which would likely be given based on indictments for similar referrals in the same investigation) against Meadows for his subpoena refusal and then also indict him again later on for other charges. Why is Garland covering for Meadows?
jaxexpat
(6,828 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)as the Yiddish saying goes. From your mouth to God's ears.
I'll be stunned if any of that happens.