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Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
Wed May 11, 2022, 10:11 AM May 2022

Passenger with no experience lands plane after pilot incapacitated

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/11/passenger-lands-plane-florida-pilot-incapacitated

"A passenger without any flying experience safely landed a plane at a Florida airport after the pilot became incapacitated.
.....
In a statement, the FAA said two passengers were onboard the single-engine Cessna 208 when the pilot had a “possible medical issue”.
One passenger steered the private plane smoothly into Palm Beach international airport.

According to LiveATC.net audio, the passenger told air traffic control: “I’ve got a serious situation here. My pilot has gone incoherent and I have no idea how to fly the airplane.”
......

The air traffic controller proceeded to guide the passenger through the descent, saying: “Try to hold the wings level and see if you can start descending for me, push forward on the controls and descend at a very slow rate.”
In video obtained by CNN, the plane can be seen landing slowly and smoothly.”...(more)

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Passenger with no experience lands plane after pilot incapacitated (Original Post) Tanuki May 2022 OP
Get thee to the greatest page for good .news malaise May 2022 #1
Wow blm May 2022 #2
Wow Johnny2X2X May 2022 #3
I'll bet this is what it looked like inside the cockpit CurtEastPoint May 2022 #4
The cockpit? What is it? Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #8
Wow! CNN video is amazing. oregonjen May 2022 #5
I think I could keep it together with someone like that helping me, but once I'd hit the ground hlthe2b May 2022 #6
I hear he had a drinking problem. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #7
I'm skeptical the passenger had "no experience".. msfiddlestix May 2022 #9
I'm curious why you think it's likely he had some experience, Tanuki May 2022 #10
Reports are often sensationalized i.e. click bait msfiddlestix May 2022 #13
This isn't a piston engine Cessna jmowreader May 2022 #15
Yep, no pistons, it's a Turboprop KS Toronado May 2022 #16
Yeah maybe they played a video game 48656c6c6f20 May 2022 #21
When he was a child he had one of those balsa wood planes with the rubber band and a propeller. twodogsbarking May 2022 #23
Not too far from me! obamanut2012 May 2022 #11
Damn!!! hamsterjill May 2022 #12
There is ATC audio posted on VASAviation ForgedCrank May 2022 #14
So he had some familiarity with wnylib May 2022 #18
He probably flew frequently/enough LeftInTX May 2022 #22
That's what I am thinking. wnylib May 2022 #25
If it was me: "Breaker 1/9!" All I know is CB! LeftInTX May 2022 #27
I don't even know how to operate the wnylib May 2022 #29
So wait...his pilot was a) incoherent and b) flying into Palm Beach. Hmm. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #19
I went up in a glider with a guy one time. multigraincracker May 2022 #17
Wow! pandr32 May 2022 #20
He done good. We can use a hero or two right about now. nt Buns_of_Fire May 2022 #24
Wow Wild blueberry May 2022 #26
Wow Higherarky May 2022 #28

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
3. Wow
Wed May 11, 2022, 10:20 AM
May 2022

I've been in small planes like this with just the pilot and me. Landing is arrowing even as a passenger. It just seems like the airport is so tiny and far away when you're close to the ground. Getting the glide slope right takes Know how. But having someone on the radio helping had to make the difference.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
6. I think I could keep it together with someone like that helping me, but once I'd hit the ground
Wed May 11, 2022, 10:45 AM
May 2022

I'm pretty sure that vasovagal reflex would have left me flat (fainted) on the pavement. Hopefully, not before I got to hug that heroic traffic controller.

That guy (and his first-time student) are terrific.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
9. I'm skeptical the passenger had "no experience"..
Wed May 11, 2022, 10:55 AM
May 2022

in any literal sense. He/she likely had some experience possibly as a student pilot at the min.

maybe we needed to create a new hero. ???

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
10. I'm curious why you think it's likely he had some experience,
Wed May 11, 2022, 10:59 AM
May 2022

when the story states otherwise and most people do not in fact have any such experience.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
13. Reports are often sensationalized i.e. click bait
Wed May 11, 2022, 11:13 AM
May 2022

of course most people do not have piloting experience.

However passengers who tend to fly as passengers on a Cessna, also end to be familiar to varying degrees how piloting a small plane is done. They tend to know something about how the plane operates in general, are familiar with control panels, are familiar with communicating with control towers etc etc etc. I'm suggesting it's likely the passenger might have had at least a few flying lessons.



jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
15. This isn't a piston engine Cessna
Wed May 11, 2022, 11:42 AM
May 2022

Caravans are Cessna’s baby cargo planes. They have 675-horsepower engines. I can thoroughly believe the passenger had no idea how to fly this thing.

twodogsbarking

(9,749 posts)
23. When he was a child he had one of those balsa wood planes with the rubber band and a propeller.
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:37 PM
May 2022

Double jeez.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
18. So he had some familiarity with
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:10 PM
May 2022

flight terminology, the control panel, and how to read and operate it, although he had never actually piloted a plane himself.

Amazing accomplishment.

Most people would not have had even the knowledge that this passenger had. I could never have followed those flight directions. I would not even have known how to contact the control tower.

LeftInTX

(25,337 posts)
22. He probably flew frequently/enough
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:33 PM
May 2022

My dad was a pilot, but he was Air Force and then commercial. We rented a plane once. He showed me a few controls. My hunch is if my dad took me up frequently, I would probably would have figured some of this out.

Generally if you're a passenger in a Cessna, it isn't your first time in the plane or similar type planes. Passengers sit close to controls unlike commercial flights. I wouldn't be surprised if he was friends with the pilot.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
25. That's what I am thinking.
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

If he was a passenger often enough and friends with the pilot, he would be familiar with the instrument panel, reading it, and using flight terminology.

But that is still a far cry from having actual experience.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
29. I don't even know how to operate the
Wed May 11, 2022, 01:42 PM
May 2022

mic or whatever it is called. So I would not even be sure if a "breaker 19" message would be heard. I also would not know what to do to receive a response.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
19. So wait...his pilot was a) incoherent and b) flying into Palm Beach. Hmm.
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:12 PM
May 2022

Did not know that Donald Trump knew how to fly.

multigraincracker

(32,682 posts)
17. I went up in a glider with a guy one time.
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:10 PM
May 2022

Towed way up and just smoothly gliding around and the pilot asked if I wanted to take the stick. Sure I say, and in no time we were in big trouble. Scary stuff.
One tends to over steer.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
20. Wow!
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:26 PM
May 2022

That passenger remained calm and saved the day--along with the air traffic control people who helped. There isn't anything at the link about the pilot. I wonder what happened?

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