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(62,530 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Hes an asshole.
Geechie
(865 posts)we can do it
(12,184 posts)emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Pobeka
(4,999 posts)And beat down the messaging that Dem's don't get anything done, with, we'll get more done when we have enough seats to get past filibusters.
Celerity
(43,376 posts)with 60 solid True Blue votes. Too many states have went to the dark side on at least a semi permanent basis, especially in the Midwest and Plains.
Either the filibuster goes at some point or we can forget any sizeable Dem initiatives and programmes being passed that do not come under the umbrella of Reconciliation.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Sometimes a couple is all that is needed.
I don't know if that opportunity will exist again like it has the past two years (for putting aside filibuster for voting rights). I sure hope it does.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Most blue seats are already taken, which means Democrats need red.
But Manchin is proving there's little point if they just vote red anyway, and this hurts the call for "we need more Democrats."
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)McConnell still controls the senate.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)Well, we want to do good things, but....
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Collins is making a ridiculous excuse for not voting for the bill. Not sure which way Murkowski is leaning but shes probably a No as well. None of this is surprising in the least.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,023 posts)In It to Win It
(8,252 posts)We have to make do with what we have. Focus on what Manchin (and Sinema) will do.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Because thats all his fan club will allow me to say.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)votes with Biden 95.5% of the time.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)But then a few bills actually made it to the floor for a vote instead of being filibustered, so his stats dropped.
Its a shame people rely on stats to define Manchins value, when his merit can more clearly be determined by the measure of his character.
Celerity
(43,376 posts)That is not reflected in that misleading vote score. They also gut the hell out of things in Bilden's agenda that do finally pass.
Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #11)
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we can do it
(12,184 posts)Tickle
(2,520 posts)I'm only seeing 48? is this true
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)He probably got a nice contribution from the anti-choice crowd for this issue.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)My mother was from WVa, so I know the culture. Those people are VERY conservative and religious. Manchin couldn't get elected if he was pro choice, so he votes accordingly. It's no surprise to me.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)People in New York should refuse to send their taxes to such States.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)Outside of the cities, the people there are beyond dirt poor. I'm talking third world poor, no indoor plumbing, no shoes for your kids poor. Any way they can get some govt money (Social Security, AFDC, disability, food stamps, etc.), they'll get it if they can. Outside of the coal industry, there are NO decent jobs there. Govt money means survival. Nearly every rural house with a good sized yard has a vegetable garden next to the house (fresh produce is expensive), as well as a small flock of chickens. As for voting, they vote how their churches tell them to vote.
blogslug
(38,000 posts)blm
(113,061 posts)blm
(113,061 posts)Bettie
(16,109 posts)Even a little bit?
It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone anymore.
Honestly, I'm shocked that Sinema is for it.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)I figured it would be a "safe" vote for him since he's tanked so many others.
oh well
PA_jen
(1,114 posts)Manchin isn't the only Democrat in West Va. We find a local that "speaks the language" and explain to voters He/She should be the next Democratic Senator for WVA because they will vote for BBB which brings This number of jobs and helps families this way ETC.
It can be done.
Novara
(5,842 posts)Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)Link to tweet
Alan He
@alanhe
Manchin tells reporters he will vote against the Womens Health Protection Act this afternoon
Watch on Twitter
8:41 AM · May 11, 2022
2 Meow Momma
(6,682 posts)However, I'm glad he hasn't officially changed parties.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)Chainfire
(17,538 posts)I would like to see him make an appointment with a bucket of tar, a bag of feathers and a few strong men to transport him to the city limits.
Emile
(22,743 posts)usonian
(9,802 posts)Text editor here ignores the = sign in the title.
And when I put it in quotes, in the title OR the message, I get a 403.
I hate software.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)BradAllison
(1,879 posts)He's fine with actual live women dying and will most likely be fine and when they are executed for having an abortion.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,501 posts)at the mouth about "compromise". Where is his compromise when it comes to this?
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)He is not a hero. I hope all the people who are so happy he's a Democrat realize he is a piece of shit and accept it.