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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:01 PM May 2022

J.D. Vance's claim that Biden is targeting 'MAGA voters' with fentanyl





https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/11/jd-vances-claim-that-biden-is-targeting-maga-voters-with-fentanyl/

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“If you wanted to kill a bunch of MAGA voters in the middle of the heartland, how better than to target them and their kids with this deadly fentanyl? … It does look intentional. It’s like Joe Biden wants to punish the people who didn’t vote for him and opening up the floodgates to the border is one way to do it.”
— GOP Senate candidate J.D. Vance, in an interview with Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit, April 29


Shortly before he won the Republican primary for Ohio’s Senate race, Vance made this startling observation. Vance, the author of “Hillbilly Elegy” and a conservative commentator, argued that President Biden’s border policies had reverberated across the country, allowing not only undocumented immigrants but also deadly drugs to flow into the country — with a nefarious purpose. He suggested that Biden was intentionally allowing drugs such as fentanyl to flood the United States with the intention of trying to kill supporters of former president Donald Trump in the “heartland” of the country.

Whoa, that’s extreme even by today’s standards of political rhetoric. We’re not sure how to even evaluate that. But we can certainly dig into the data to see whether there is even a basis for his claim that Biden has allowed the flow of drugs and deaths to increase.

The Facts

As is often the case, the data with which to make a complete analysis is incomplete — or not yet up to date.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reports monthly data on border seizures of fentanyl, a powerful synthetic opioid drug that can be lethal even in small doses. But by itself, these statistics only tell you about the drugs that are caught, not what might be missed.

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J.D. Vance's claim that Biden is targeting 'MAGA voters' with fentanyl (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
He'll never win. He's not crazy enough. Turbineguy May 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2022 #1
So... Trumpers are drugged out on opiates and meth C_U_L8R May 2022 #3
If they were any smarter, they might not be Trumpers gratuitous May 2022 #5
Targeting the people who buy the drugs... MAGAs. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #4
OK, so he prefers blow. Got it. nt Carlitos Brigante May 2022 #6
fentanyl got my son Tickle May 2022 #7
I'm truly sorry for your loss. Fentanyl and other super-potent opioids are a huge... keep_left May 2022 #12
thank you for your kind post Tickle May 2022 #13
Blaming Biden for the drug habits of his followers and the people he wrote about. Nice. nt Samrob May 2022 #8
Is this supposed to be satire? Irony? The Onion? Red Pest May 2022 #9
Hillbilly Lies Diamond_Dog May 2022 #10
Republicans are always projecting... sop May 2022 #11
The party of personal responsibility NickB79 May 2022 #14
He needs to be sued. This stupid bullshit is enough. onecaliberal May 2022 #15
So he's saying that MAGAts are druggies? Ms. Toad May 2022 #16

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. If they were any smarter, they might not be Trumpers
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:07 PM
May 2022

So it's a cinch they won't realize that J.D. is calling them a bunch of drug addicts.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
4. Targeting the people who buy the drugs... MAGAs.
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:05 PM
May 2022

Targeting the people who buy the drugs... MAGAs.

Is JD going to deny his supporters the drugs they want?

Tickle

(2,520 posts)
7. fentanyl got my son
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:11 PM
May 2022

and he was not a republican. I'm sure about that to

I had wished Biden would tackle this fentanyl coming into the country but there's so much going on it has just fallen to the bottom of the barrel so to speak.



keep_left

(1,783 posts)
12. I'm truly sorry for your loss. Fentanyl and other super-potent opioids are a huge...
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:23 PM
May 2022

...problem not easily solved. One of the biggest challenges with them is their extraordinary potency; they are so much stronger than other drugs that the shipments are compact and extremely easy to conceal. CBS News ran a story the other night showing what the border police are up against in their attempts to keep fentanyl from entering the country. The concealment methods are ingenious and quite effective, similar to what one of the terrorist groups tried a few years ago where explosives were hidden in printer cartridges.

Sometimes when they are able to interdict a drug shipment, the police end up being poisoned by the fentanyl they have just seized.

Tickle

(2,520 posts)
13. thank you for your kind post
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:31 PM
May 2022

When I read my son's autopsy report I was shocked as how little fentanyl he had in his system. It's truly a hard fight and sadly it's not our only fight. I wish people didn't feel like an addict has zero worth. My son was intelligent very much involved in politics. I will forever miss our talks, he just couldn't kill that old proverbial monkey on his back.

Peace

Red Pest

(288 posts)
9. Is this supposed to be satire? Irony? The Onion?
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:19 PM
May 2022

So, J.D. Vance is saying that the MAGAts, his supporters, are a bunch of drug-addicted fools? Then these idiots go ahead and vote for him? Well, I do remember when orange pustule said, "We love the poorly educated!"

sop

(10,177 posts)
11. Republicans are always projecting...
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:21 PM
May 2022

(What J. D. meant to say) "If you wanted to kill a bunch of Democratic voters in the inner cities, how better than to target them and their kids with a flood of illegal guns? It does look intentional. It’s like Republicans want to punish the people who didn’t vote for them and opening up the floodgates to deadly firearms is one way to do it.”

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
14. The party of personal responsibility
Wed May 11, 2022, 02:35 PM
May 2022

Is blaming the President for them not being able to stop doing drugs.

Sounds a lot like what Rush Limbaugh used to say, before he went deaf from rampant opioid use.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
15. He needs to be sued. This stupid bullshit is enough.
Wed May 11, 2022, 03:37 PM
May 2022

Sue all these pigs and then watch them all go away.

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