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Fri May 13, 2022, 09:08 AM

Turkey may block Finland, Sweden from joining NATO

"President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday it was not possible for NATO-member Turkey to support plans by Sweden and Finland to join the pact, saying the Nordic countries were "home to many terrorist organisations".

Though Turkey has officially supported enlargement since it joined NATO 70 years ago, its opposition could pose a problem for Sweden and Finland given new members need unanimous agreement..."

https://www.reuters.com/world/erdogan-says-turkey-not-positive-finland-sweden-joining-nato-2022-05-13/

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Reply Turkey may block Finland, Sweden from joining NATO (Original post)
867-5309. May 13 OP
David__77 May 13 #1
no_hypocrisy May 13 #2
Deb May 13 #4
harumph May 13 #6
Arazi May 13 #24
Samrob May 13 #3
Buckeyeblue May 13 #7
Marcuse May 13 #8
Faux pas May 13 #5
JohnSJ May 13 #9
Faux pas May 13 #17
Mister Ed May 13 #10
DetroitLegalBeagle May 13 #12
NullTuples May 13 #19
SergeStorms May 13 #22
LiberalLovinLug May 15 #29
ripcord May 13 #11
Marcuse May 13 #13
Fullduplexxx May 13 #15
IronLionZion May 13 #14
UTUSN May 13 #16
Wicked Blue May 13 #18
moonshinegnomie May 13 #20
Trust_Reality May 13 #21
roamer65 May 15 #28
BannonsLiver May 13 #23
w0nderer May 14 #25
BlueWavePsych May 14 #26
roamer65 May 15 #27
Haggis 4 Breakfast May 15 #30

Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:11 AM

1. Consensus politics are interesting.

Itís certainly an opportunity for Turkey or other NATO states to try to get what they want including in non-security realms.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:14 AM

2. OK Tayyip Erdogan . . . . . how much ????

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:30 AM

4. 1+

Could be cheaper to pay everyone else to vote Turkey out. What a disgusting show of poor faith this is.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:30 AM

6. ding ding ding!

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:43 PM

24. He wants our F15s

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:29 AM

3. Can he identify these terrorist groups? nt

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Response to Samrob (Reply #3)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:33 AM

7. That's what I was thinking. Who are these mad skiing terrorists?

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Response to Samrob (Reply #3)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:34 AM

8. Kurds.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:30 AM

5. Hmm

I'd trade turkey for Finland and Sweden.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:46 AM

9. Any day. We should tell Turkey that those jets they wanted, they can forget about now

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #9)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:25 PM

17. We

shouldn't be dong them ANY favors. That's scary.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:15 AM

10. If only NATO didn't need Turkey so badly.

Turkey's geographical location has made it a bulwark against Russian expansion all these years, but it's still a very troublesome NATO member.

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #10)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:29 AM

12. Yep

There is a greater likelihood of Turkey withdrawing from NATO than NATO kicking Turkey out.

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #10)

Sun May 15, 2022, 03:04 PM

29. Especially now. They know that obviously.

Using their geographical position in this war to squeeze out concessions.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:24 AM

11. Can we now go after the countries that blocked Ukraine's membership? nt

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:54 AM

13. Turkey: The Joe Manchin of NATO.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #13)

Fri May 13, 2022, 11:20 AM

15. Ha! I like it

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 11:10 AM

14. White people can't be terrorists. Every white person knows that

the problem is both countries have supported Kurdish political parties and groups in Turkey. Erdogan would like to murder such people without consequence.

Long term I would like to see an independent Kurdistan and we can build a new air base there when we get thrown out of Incirlik. There's no easy solution for access to the Black Sea though.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:19 PM

16. Doesn't a member siding with the hostile power (NATO vs Russia/ex-USSR) negate membership?

The whole raison d'etre for NATO is to combine against Russia (ex-USSR). Seems like a member negating the whole raison d'etre signs it out of the outfit.






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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:28 PM

18. The pot calling the kettle black

Typical Russky projection propaganda

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

20. start a nato 2

and exclude turkey

problem solved

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Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #20)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:14 PM

21. That occurred to me also.

Turkey seems like a really big nuisance, at best. Would we want to go to war to defend Turkey? Not me!

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Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #20)

Sun May 15, 2022, 12:26 PM

28. The EU.

Finland and Sweden are already members.

The EU needs to start taking on a larger military defense role.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:41 PM

23. Meh. Just do it anyway. He is of no consequence.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 03:52 AM

25. K & R keeping eye on N/T

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:58 AM

26. Kick

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2022, 12:24 PM

27. There is nothing stopping NATO members individually signing defense pacts with them.

The UK has already done it.

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Response to 867-5309. (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2022, 05:33 PM

30. I find it difficult to understand WHY in the 21st century


That ONE person can stand in the way of an overwhelming majority.

Erdogan has NO authority over the vote of NATO nations. Give Finland and Sweden their membership. Let him have his temper tantrum, and reveal to the world what his true agenda is for all to see.

I remember his trip to the WH, when he brought with him a number of street thugs who proceeded to beat American citizens protesting Turkish policy nearby. He had NO respect for American citizens, American Laws and the Constitution's First Amendment right to free speech. He is nothing but a thug himself. I am tired of thugs pushing people and countries around.

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