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Fri May 13, 2022, 09:17 AM

Russian commentators begin to explain why Russia is losing:

Interesting thread. It's partly because Ukranians are.....russian!


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Reply Russian commentators begin to explain why Russia is losing: (Original post)
Tomconroy May 2022 OP
Lovie777 May 2022 #1
dalton99a May 2022 #2
haele May 2022 #3
mitch96 May 2022 #4
jimfields33 May 2022 #5
getagrip_already May 2022 #6
Marcuse May 2022 #7
getagrip_already May 2022 #8
mitch96 May 2022 #9
SWBTATTReg May 2022 #10
PTWB May 2022 #11

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:41 AM

1. WOW . ..

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:43 AM

2. "They have Russian genes. Smart, very smart"

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:48 AM

3. Defenders always fight harder, especially in light of atrocities.

The Russians from north western Russia have always treated the Ukrainians as lesser Slavs, uncivilized Russian peasants or yokels. Only those Ukrainians who embrace Moscow or St. Petersburg are truly Russian. The former Ukrainian government imposed by Russia worked hard to reenforce that stereotype. But Ukraine has changed over the past eight years, with governments that began to invest in the country and people, even with the the endemic corruption.

So the Russian invaders were surprised when even poor Ukrainian villages are better off than their Russian counterparts. And were willing to fight for even the small gains they had made as a country.

Also, Ukraine has been reorganizing their military as more of a western style with a stronger trained and professional NCO corps that could lead independently of the Officer corps during battle. That, plus technology force multipliers such as drones and advanced surveillance systems have made for a better fighting force. It's not "American Generals" that are making the Ukrainians better, more adaptable fighters, it's Ukrainian senior NCOs and the Ukrainian generals and jr. officers that trust them with battlefield tactics.

Haele

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 10:48 AM

4. It's not "American Generals" that are making the Ukrainians better, more adaptable fighters,

it's Ukrainian senior NCOs and the Ukrainian generals and jr. officers that trust them with battlefield

Agree! When asked what they need to fight UKR does not ask for American troops, they need weapons and ammo. They will do the dirty work of war... People fleeing Ukraine all want to go back to their homes, not seek asylum in the west.. Different mind set...
YMMV
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #4)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:07 PM

5. Amazing what they've done with a six billion dollar budget

They planned very well. Russia has 46 billion annual budget and canít keep up with Ukraine. Losers!

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:18 PM

6. and we are sending them a $40B package.....

That is 5% of the DoD's entire budget. And more than the bbb bill proposed.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:20 PM

7. Rand Paul is blocking it.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #7)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:24 PM

8. only temporarily.....

He is pulling a parliamentary trick which will force a vote on a motion, which can't happen today.

But he doesn't have the votes to stop it, even with a fillibuster.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #7)

Fri May 13, 2022, 12:45 PM

9. Rand Paul along with TFG do putins bidding......nt

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 01:26 PM

10. And this amount is but a small piece of the pie when you consider how much other

Countries are pitching in, to help Ukraine. Isn't it amazing that it is taking a former comedian to outgovern/outdo Russia ... maybe that's what we need to do, here in the US, is bring on more "Al Franklin's", other comedians, and have them govern (and while doing so, mock the republicans thoroughly since they deserve it).

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 01:28 PM

11. Propaganda

 

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