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marmar

(77,078 posts)
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:04 AM May 2022

Millennials/Gen Z have hit an 'apocalyptic' phase in which they don't see the point in saving.......


Some Millennials and Gen Z have hit an 'apocalyptic' phase in which they don't see the point in saving for the future


Between two recessions, a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic, the climate crisis, and yet another new war, America's youngest adults have already experienced a lot of trauma — and a lot of economic tumult.

As people across the country have their own Great Realizations about work, the youngest workers seem to have decided that there's not much merit in saving up for an uncertain future. Instead, as Anna P. Kambhampaty reports for the New York Times, millennials and Gen Zers — roughly ages 26 to 41 — are spending money on things that bring meaning to their lives.

In fact, a Fidelity retirement planning survey of about 2,600 adults found that 45% of "next gen" — defined as 18 to 35-year-olds — "don't see a point in saving until things return to normal."

A grim economic outlook

For some Gen Zers, "normal" may be more of a vibe than something they've experienced. Just one subset of the generation has ever experienced what higher-education and work life were like in a pre-pandemic world. ..............(more)

https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-gen-z-no-point-saving-climate-change-inflation-homeownership-2022-5#:~:text=The%20New%20York%20Times%20reports,existential%20threat%20of%20climate%20crisis.




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Millennials/Gen Z have hit an 'apocalyptic' phase in which they don't see the point in saving....... (Original Post) marmar May 2022 OP
I just gave a young friend $1000 to start her roth IRA account. Tomconroy May 2022 #1
The World's a Mess. So They've Stopped Saving for Tomorrow. Celerity May 2022 #2
I can see both sides nt XanaDUer2 May 2022 #3
This is not new. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #4
I have one of each eissa May 2022 #5
Yup Johnny2X2X May 2022 #6
There may be some validity to their attitudes. Chainfire May 2022 #7
No point in them saving. It will be eaten away and lost by things beyond their control. Autumn May 2022 #8
It might help if savings accounts offered interest instead of just fees. Earth-shine May 2022 #9
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
1. I just gave a young friend $1000 to start her roth IRA account.
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:10 AM
May 2022

I'm hoping she's going to follow through.

Celerity

(43,344 posts)
2. The World's a Mess. So They've Stopped Saving for Tomorrow.
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:13 AM
May 2022
Many adults under 35 are throwing financial caution to the wind. It’s all about saving less, spending more and pursuing passions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/13/style/saving-less-money.html


Schuyler Wagner, a financial analyst, has decided to pursue an expensive hobby: coral farming. He has seven tanks at his home in Arizona.

In a tumultuous time, many adults under 35 have stopped playing it safe. Instead of banking as much of their pay as they used to, they’re saving less, spending more and pursuing passion projects or risky careers. Nimarta Narang, 27, said she was prudent about almost everything until the end of last year, when she had an epiphany: “I don’t want to spend my life being so careful and cautious.”

For most of the coronavirus pandemic, she couldn’t travel to Bangkok to see her family. When she finally made the visit, she was struck by how much she had missed — her mother’s 50th birthday, her grandmother’s funeral, her sister’s engagement, her father’s beard going gray. “Coming back to the U.S., I realized I needed to do things differently,” said Ms. Narang, a literary editor at Brown Girl Magazine.

One thing she had always wanted to do was to live in New York. She packed up everything in her Los Angeles apartment and made the move in March. She also took a new approach to her finances. Before the pandemic, she said, she was putting about $2,000 into her savings account each month. Now it’s half that amount. The rest goes toward a costlier apartment ($600 more in monthly rent), evenings out with friends and small indulgences she would have denied herself before. “I wanted to use my savings to have a life experience,” she said. “Visiting home made me see how much life I had missed.”

She’s not alone. A recent study by Fidelity Investments found that 45 percent of people aged 18 to 35 “don’t see a point in saving until things return to normal.” In that same age group, 55 percent said they have put retirement planning on hold. For some, like Ms. Narang, the isolation of pandemic life triggered the decision to enjoy the moment, financial consequences be damned. For others, the motivation has come from worries over climate change, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, domestic political instability, soaring inflation, through-the-roof housing costs and a topsy-turvy stock market.


New York at last: Nimarta Narang, who left Los Angeles for her dream city, said she is socking away significantly less of her earnings these days.

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
4. This is not new.
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:26 AM
May 2022

I'm a 73 year old Boomer, and I can recall lots of fellow Boomers saying they saw no point in saving for the future. All too often they'd simply assume they'd die before retirement, with absolutely no basis for thinking so. Surprise, surprise. Most people live significantly longer than they think they will.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
5. I have one of each
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:38 AM
May 2022

The millennial a recent grad with his Master's, the Gen Z finishing her Master's degree next year. Both members of a generation that is more educated than any other in our history, yet will ever have what their parents obtained (home, retirement/savings account, slush fund, etc.) The millennial in particular will probably still be paying his student loans well into old age (this despite the fact that we created college accounts when they were conceived, but with the skyrocketing cost of education, it was nowhere near enough.) The idea of home ownership is so out of reach that they can't even fathom it. They've heard countless politicians promise student debt relief, healthcare for all, better infrastructure, and have seen little of any. Both have traveled overseas and have noted how far we lag behind other European nations. The voices of the conspiracy theorists and reactionaries on the right always seem to be amplified (particularly in our family) leading them to lose faith that anything significant will change in the future. They're at the "fuck it" stage - I had to plead with them to complete their ballots for the upcoming primary elections. It's all very depressing.

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
6. Yup
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:48 AM
May 2022

I'm in that boat, have an engineering BS and an MBA, owe a ton, all so I can maybe come close to what my father had working as a diemaker for GM. And my retirement will never ever come close to what his pension has meant for him.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
7. There may be some validity to their attitudes.
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:58 AM
May 2022

The dollar that I saved in 1970 is worth how much today in real spending power?

$1 in 1970 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $7.45 today, an increase of $6.45 over 52 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.94% per year between 1970 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 645.13%.


As I have earned my last dollar and am now living off of savings and SS I sit back and watch while inflation steals even more of the value of my saved dollars, and there is not a damn thing that I can do about it. It will be a race to see if the money or I run out first. The bucket that holds my life savings has a hole in it that is growing by the day. Economist have one theory about the amount of inflation in the past two years, but I know that my grocery prices (my largest recurring expense) have damn near doubled. My home insurance doubled overnight, gasoline prices have more than doubled. Inflation hurts those of us who live in the shrinking middle class, but does not even show up on the long-range radar for the rich.

No wonder the younger people have a different set of ideas of saving. Why save so that something beyond your controls steals it?

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
8. No point in them saving. It will be eaten away and lost by things beyond their control.
Tue May 17, 2022, 12:23 PM
May 2022

Sooner or later

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