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A lot of our education on matters race (Original Post) malaise May 2022 OP
Absolutely! SheltieLover May 2022 #1
By what means do you know that? Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #5
Observations SheltieLover May 2022 #6
When I was a kid racism was common among our elders... Archae May 2022 #7
Great post malaise May 2022 #8
Racism is absolutely global, and the entire spectrum of historical text Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #11
+1. Racism is learned from parents most often. Interacting with others, Hoyt May 2022 #2
Great post malaise May 2022 #3
Love it, "Swimming among the scumbags." That's exactly what it feels like. Hoyt May 2022 #4
It's why they like home schooling, too...nt Wounded Bear May 2022 #9
Excellent point malaise May 2022 #10

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. Absolutely!
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:55 PM
May 2022

Kids are not born disliking or fearing others with a different skin color!

Racism is taught! At home!

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. By what means do you know that?
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:27 PM
May 2022

Perhaps it just doesn't 'display' until they're more mature, so we don't see really little kids acting racist.

I mean, if someone similarly argued that people cannot be born gay ... evidenced by the fact that we don't see obvious signs of it in 2 year old's ... would you buy that?

Cause it's basically the same argument

Archae

(46,358 posts)
7. When I was a kid racism was common among our elders...
Tue May 17, 2022, 06:51 PM
May 2022

And our kids' games reflected it.

We'd pile on each other, did we call it a "dog pile?"
Nope.

Eenie, meanie, meinie, mo, catch a "tiger" by the toe?
Again, nope.

Most of us grew out of the old ways we learned while growing up.
Many of our elders did not.

My Father died an unrepentant hater of anyone not white.
It wasn't the "Join the Klan" type racism, it was the "Keep them out of OUR neighborhoods" type.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Racism is absolutely global, and the entire spectrum of historical text
Wed May 18, 2022, 01:25 PM
May 2022

going back to the very earliest historical texts we're capable of interpreting ... suggest that some form or another of racism ... is endemic to the human population.

The Old Testament is pretty full of it, New Testament shows (in many ways) Jesus was not a fan of people being like this. At minimum, his supposed utterances on the subject represent an understanding of 'hey this is a big problem in the world around me'.

Also ...

India is a super-racist country. Worse than the US, by a lot.

China is a very racist country. Worse than the US, by a lot.

Japan is even full of racists. Probably worse than the US.

That's just to name a few. But it represents about 1/2 the world's population.

How anyone could conclude, in light of these facts, that racism is not engrained genetically from our evolutionary heritage ... and that rather it's simply a perpetuation of 'what we're taught by our elders' ... boggles my f***ing mind, quite frankly. It's NOT the more-logical conclusion given the evidence, put it like that.

I think it's more logical to conclude that, on-balance, most people need to be taught to NOT be racist, not the other way around. And with a lot of them ... you're simply not going to be able to, because it's engrained in the human genome.

MHO, fwiw.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. +1. Racism is learned from parents most often. Interacting with others,
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:03 PM
May 2022

particularly at school, probably saves a lot of kids from a lifetime of hatred.

Even if the Klan-loving governors are successful with their CRT crud, kids interacting with each other is critical to rejecting that junk.

malaise

(269,212 posts)
3. Great post
Tue May 17, 2022, 04:06 PM
May 2022

This why why racists love segregation - once you mingle with others you realize we are all just human beings swimming among the scumbags.

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