Fertilization occurs anywhere from 3 minutes to 125 hours after

[Sogo]

intercourse. So, how's Oklahoma going to enforce their "fertilization" marker?

Or will they consider any act of sexual intercourse tantamount to fertilization?

This is nuts.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. It sure is nuts, but what else is new? They want control over women. Period. n/t

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. Well, yeah, any sexual intercourse is

clearly tantamount to fertilization. So the men involved need to be cautioned, and held responsible.

Honestly, the entire anti-abortion thing seems to think women just magically get pregnant, without any male involvement at all.

[Sogo]

3. Are you serious?

You've had sex, so you're now carrying a fertilized egg.....

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. It will very quickly go back to what it was like before the Pill,

when women were constantly terrified they'd gotten pregnant. I'm old enough to remember those days.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

27. ...

[haele]

4. Tampon and maxi pad checks...

If the fertilized egg doesn't implant, it gets flushed out during menses.
So every woman who has sex after ovulation occurs is potentially a criminal under Oklahoma law, whether she knows it or not.

Haele

[Sogo]

7. I wonder if they'll keep ovulation records on every woman of

childbearing age....

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

11. I believe that happened in Romania.

[haele]

14. Sure, they'll probably even direct women to download an app for that.

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To help them control their own sexuality and plan their families the natural way, like Gawd intended.
I can see them pushing an AP like that in the sixth grade Kotex discussions.
The thing is, if a women's ovulation can be tracked through an app, what's to stop some a-hole mad at a woman, her husband, or her father and deciding to hack that information in revenge, then raping that woman or girl to force them into an unwanted pregnancy.
The removal of bodily autonomy from a woman makes her less important to society than livestock.

Haele

[Hekate]

16. There are already apps for personal use that track menstruation and ovulation...

But people tend to forget that their personal information is an open book to anyone with the right tools, and it’s not even difficult to collect that data.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. Hopefully, those apps aren't owned by a lifer company or sells to one. The TOS might change.

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Just with at-home DNA tests, they are not under HIPAA protections and that data can eventually be sold to anyone.


All it takes is a small TOS change, that you already agreed to when initially using these services.

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[OAITW r.2.0]

8. God is the #1 abortion provider for women. Whether they want one or not.

Will they hold God responsible for these abortions?

It's obvious the morons who think up these laws have no clue with the consequences that such laws create.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. Republicans will soon require cams in the bedroom, so they can monitor sacred conception moments.

They have many volunteers to watch the videos.

[MerryBlooms]

6. I'm guessing pharmacies will be required to track

Pregnancy test kit purchases? Along with doctors required to report every pregnancy to the government? I don't know how else they can track every suspected pregnancy without reporting to the government? Horrific law. Are Oklahoma folks in the streets? Nope. No headlines. What's going on!?!

[Hekate]

17. It was several years ago tht some parents of teenage daughters got a jolt when their grocery stores

… started sending baby coupons to their houses. Turns out if you use a store’s discount card or club card, their computer makes note of everything your family buys and responds accordingly. But I’m sure you already knew that. Yes, their daughters had “secretly” purchased pregnancy test kits.

Privacy? We sold that our own selves long ago.

As for pregnancy tracking — some states already have proposals to have every abortion reported to the state.

[Demovictory9]

21. first time shopping at Amazon Fresh recently. didn't use Amazon AP, paid with debit card

every item I purchased at Amazon fresh is now listed in my Amazon order list.

[MerryBlooms]

26. Those club cards, I hadn't even thought of that of

That angle, you're right. I don't use them, but my sister has card for every store. I guess like Dem said below, probably track on debit cards too. Ugh.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

9. No fertilization if Birth Control is being used.

Or if one has had tubes tied(male or female).

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

12. And they will quickly outlaw those procedures.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

20. Then the Republican talking point of "personal responsibility" flies out the window.

It is none of their business, other than it violated their religious views. That is where the danger lies as that wall of separation is destroyed.

[FalloutShelter]

13. I think maybe the idea here is to outlaw the

Morning after pill.

[Hekate]

18. These fanatics are as serious as a heart attack. Years ago they redefined the best contraceptives

… as abortifacients, including IUDs and the Pill. Then they made sure there were so-called conscience clauses inserted into all health care legislation — if your doc prescribes something for you to use or ingest that the pharmacist or hospital believes offends their delicate conscience, they have every right to refuse to fill your prescription. So good luck finding Plan B or the Morning-after pill in a hurry.

So OF COURSE they are trying to outlaw the sale, mailing, and use of all reproductive products. It’s not a secret.

[FalloutShelter]

23. Right with you.

I’ve been actively involved with the reproductive rights movement since 1979.

[Texaswitchy]

15. The goal is more white babies.

Anything that gets in the way has to go.

[Buckeyeblue]

22. These bills are really setting the stage for a high noon duel for the future of the world

I know that sounds overly dramatic. But the US is a huge influence and champion of civil rights for the entire world. If people don't respond in mass to a Roe reversal and subsequent red state clamp down on women's rights then other rights will be curtailed as well (probably very quickly).

This will lead to economic decline. It will lead to the country essentially being divided into two different countries. And I think it will happen relatively fast.

It will be an existential moment for the nation. We've had two (slavery abolition and WWII) and fortunately we emerged from both of those as a better nation.

[Bettie]

24. Either they will ignore it unless they

want to punish a particular woman or they will treat all women of reproductive age as if they are pregnant at all times.

Imagine being a bartender in that scenario? You could be in trouble for damaging a fetus, because any woman could be pregnant.

Or a doctor trying to deal with another medical issue?

This is madness and it is a glimpse into the future.

[milestogo]

25. Fallopian tubes will be implanted with cameras.

[JCMach1]

28. Since every sperm is sacred, I guess we can criminalize male fapping

Right?