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Fri May 20, 2022, 08:26 AM

Let's get serious. If you think women will be jailed for miscarriages, you're just overreacting

I mean, it's just ludicrous to think that...

A Man Spent Two Years in Prison for 'Cocaine' That Was Powdered Sugar

Delaware may be the second smallest state in the US, but it's had some big problems with its drug testing lab. A scandal in 2014 revealed that employees at the state's Controlled Substances Lab were stealing drug evidence. The lab was shut down after it was found to be riddled with "systemic failures" including mismanagement, nonexistent security, and bumbling incompetence.

The fallout from that scandal continues as this week Jermaine Dollard, a man convicted in 2012 of supplying cocaine to a Kent County distribution ring, is free and suing the state along with several of its current and former employees. The reason for his lawsuit is that the evidence in his case—alleged to be two kilograms of cocaine—was recently retested (or tested for the first time, as no one is sure it was ever really tested before) and found to be powdered sugar.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/8qkxzv/a-man-spent-two-years-in-prison-for-cocaine-that-was-powdered-sugar


Florida Man Awarded $37,500 After Cops Mistake Glazed Doughnut Crumbs For Meth

In December 2015, 64-year-old Daniel Rushing had just dropped off a friend at chemotherapy and was driving home an older woman from his church who worked at the 7-Eleven and would otherwise walk the 2 miles home.

As Rushing drove away from the convenience store, police pulled him over. The officer said he had been driving 42 miles an hour in a 30 zone and had failed to come to a complete stop before entering the roadway. When Rushing handed over his driver's license, Officer Shelby Riggs-Hopkins noticed his concealed-weapons permit. Rushing confirmed he had a pistol, and she asked him to step out of the car for her safety.

But Riggs-Hopkins had noticed some crystals on the floorboard of the car, and when officers used a field testing kit, the white substance tested positive for methamphetamine.

Orlando police sent the evidence it had collected from Rushing's car to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement for further testing — which determined that just as he'd said, the white crystals were not a controlled substance. (Results did not indicate whether the substance was sweet and delicious.)

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth


$2M worth of 'fentanyl' seized turns out to be sugar, lab says

What officials thought was $2M worth of fentanyl seized in a drug bust turned out to be sugar, a drug testing company said.

On July 13, three people were arrested in a drug raid, and deputies in North Carolina seized what they believed to be 13 pounds of fentanyl.

According to CBS affiliate WREG, the New Hanover County Sheriff's Office tested several samples of a powder-like substance that was found with a Scott Company Drug Testing CSI field test kit and determined that the substance was fentanyl.

However, when the state lab tested the powder again, they realized the error. Results from a private company, NMS, proved that the "fentanyl" was actually sugar.

https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/2M-worth-of-fentanyl-seized-turns-out-to-be-sugar-lab-says--492118231.html


... women who miscarry will ever be accused of murder, be convicted, be jailed, have their lives turned upside down by authorities in a post-Roe world with the best forensic techniques and most unbiased minds. Crazy. It'll never happen.

Never.

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Reply Let's get serious. If you think women will be jailed for miscarriages, you're just overreacting (Original post)
ck4829 May 20 OP
WhiskeyGrinder May 20 #1
HighFired49 May 20 #22
elias7 May 21 #25
uponit7771 May 20 #2
WhiskeyGrinder May 20 #3
OldBaldy1701E May 21 #27
Walleye May 20 #4
Lonestarblue May 20 #5
ck4829 May 20 #21
edhopper May 20 #6
RoeVWade May 20 #7
Wounded Bear May 20 #17
lark May 20 #8
ck4829 May 20 #10
ShazzieB May 20 #15
KS Toronado May 20 #19
Grumpy Old Guy May 20 #20
E. Normus May 20 #9
Farmer-Rick May 20 #11
slightlv May 21 #24
Texin May 20 #12
Emile May 20 #13
barbtries May 20 #14
niyad May 20 #16
hamsterjill May 20 #18
DBoon May 20 #23
markie May 21 #26

Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:28 AM

1. It's happened already, so.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #1)

Fri May 20, 2022, 11:32 AM

22. It sure has..

and to think that women will be safe traveling out of state to get abortion care won't work either. How many of them will be extradited for "murder" if they try to remain in the state where they went for the service, or be arrested for murder as soon as they leave the health clinic? This court decision is nothing but open season on women who won't accept state control over their bodies.

"Interstate extradition. The Extradition Clause in the US Constitution requires states, upon demand of another state, to deliver a fugitive from justice who has committed a "treason, felony or other crime" to the state from which the fugitive has fled. 18 U.S.C."

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #1)

Sat May 21, 2022, 07:56 AM

25. That's the point

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:29 AM

2. K&R,

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:30 AM

3. Good thing people want to fund cops more with all these new criminalizations coming down the pipe.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #3)

Sat May 21, 2022, 08:19 AM

27. Bravo!

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:41 AM

4. Assumed guilty and no way to prove themselves innocent. That's the way it will work

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:51 AM

5. And it will mostly be black and brown women who get prosecuted and jailed.

Republicans will have one more way of incarcerating minorities to keep them from voting.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #5)

Fri May 20, 2022, 11:26 AM

21. Ding ding ding

Our healthcare system is woefully incompatible with black needs.

https://batten.virginia.edu/about/news/black-americans-are-systematically-under-treated-pain-why

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/population-care/examining-black-us-maternal-mortality-rate-and-how-cut-it

And if Roe v Wade gets overturned, there will be an expectation and maybe even a mandate that they report miscarriages and anything "suspicious" about them. The idea that they could directly create a social problem and then assist in the prosecution of it sounds like something out of Putin's Russia, but it will be red states.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:55 AM

6. You are right

It's like arresting people because they made a mistake while voting. It also never happens.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:55 AM

7. There's this rationalization

There's this rationalization that "oh well abortion will still be available in other states." usually said by the anti-choice people. But this is not a typical argument choice, because anti-choice side is often claiming murder. So from that perspective there's no reason to think these people will ever leave the issue alone just because it's in the next state.

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Response to RoeVWade (Reply #7)

Fri May 20, 2022, 10:11 AM

17. They're working on ways to block travel for abortion, too...nt

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 08:57 AM

8. I think/hope you were being sarcastic but didn't include the emoji?

It's already happened in Texas! If Roe is overturned, you can bet this will happen in other places all over the south and maybe even the deep west? How will the men totally control us if they don't have the ability to punish us?

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Response to lark (Reply #8)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:13 AM

10. I avoid putting disclaimers over things I post, and yes, I've even had

people try to report me over sarcasm. But I'm not going to start doing it now, I feel like it takes away from the content.

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Maybe this is a browser issue? There are excerpts that are part of the OP that questions the usage of law enforcement resources.

If people really can't see the excerpts I will definitely change that going forward.

I am a little lamb.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #10)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:42 AM

15. Sarcasm isn't always as obvious as we think it is when we are creating it.

I picked up on the sarcasm here from just reading the title of the first article in the list, but I've been known to miss it in other instances. I doubt if any of us has a 100% perfect sarcasm detector, so I usually use the sarcasm emoji, just in case. (For the record, I don't think it necessarily takes away from the content at all, as long as you put it at the very end of the post.)

Whether to take the risk of being misinterpreted is a personal choice, and my choice is to try to avoid the awkwardness of misunderstandings, because that takes away from the fun for me.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #15)

Fri May 20, 2022, 10:21 AM

19. I have a 100% perfect sarcasm detector

Only one known to man, nobody has ever pulled my leg except a chiropractor.

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Response to lark (Reply #8)

Fri May 20, 2022, 10:58 AM

20. I think a sarcasm label would have been a good idea.

That said, I think this is a very good post. Thanks for sharing it.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:11 AM

9. These nut jobs believe

that life begins at erection! I do not put it past them to try to charge men who jerk off, of being mass murderers. The real issue is that you cannot compel anyone to do anything with their body to help or save a life. Even their own. You cannot even harvest viable organs from a corpse without written consent from the person when they were alive, even though thousands die waiting for those organs. Of course, we can talk about the morality of all this, but I do not see how a woman should have less control over her body than a corpse!

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:19 AM

11. All so that the religiously insane can appease their gods.

There is no scientific evidence that a legal and safe abortion in anyway harms humans, their society or the future of mankind.

So the only reason to force women to eventually give birth to every human zygote created is religious idiocy. Taking away a woman's bodily autonomy for 10 months, it's 40 weeks, not 9 months, (Why do we lie about the length of human gestation?) Because women having sex, even sex forced on them without consent, is a sin. And those women must suffer for their wanton ways, sins and the random desires of rapists.

Now people are going to lock up those women who do not submit to arbitrary religious ideas. Do these thiest know how stupid, cruel and insane they come across? Why do people continue to worship imaginary beings when the results are so awful?

Don't tell me religion is good after watching religious people creating such horrors for half the human population.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #11)

Sat May 21, 2022, 07:49 AM

24. In the movie "Rain Without Thunder"

they outlawed abortion because the Church was convinced no one could know but one of the aborted babies could possibly be Christ, himself! argh... saw the movie decades ago, and it had such a devastating effect on me, I still remember it with shiver's to this very day. One of the best movies about anti-choice ever made, IMO.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:21 AM

12. Oh, arrests and prosecutions WILL happen.

But the courts will be so log-jammed by resulting civil suits that the so-called justice system will come to a grinding halt.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:28 AM

13. Don't forget the Florida man sentenced 90 years for pot.

You can bet your ass they will arrest for a miscarriage!

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 09:49 AM

16. Exactly.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 10:20 AM

18. And yet some Democrats are okay with candidates who are not pro choice?

I find that ironic.

For me, choice is the litmus test. Not for choice. Not a Democrat.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Fri May 20, 2022, 11:51 PM

23. especially when any crackpot with a grudge can get $10,000 for the claim

It won't be the police investigating and filing charges. It will be a crazy neighbor/Ex/family member on a mission from god.

In a dictatorship, people are accused of crimes in order to settle personal; scores. Someone does something you don't like, they find themselves afoul of the law just because they crossed the wrong person

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Sat May 21, 2022, 07:56 AM

26. it will only get worse...

"Is US watching? Woman gets 30-year jail for aggravated homicide on suffering miscarriage in El Salvador"
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/is-us-watching-woman-gets-30-year-jail-for-aggravated-homicide-on-suffering-miscarriage-in-el-salvador/ar-AAX8B8N?ocid=uxbndlbing

"US women are being jailed for having miscarriages"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544


"When Prosecutors Jail a Mother for a Miscarriage"
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/28/opinion/abortion-pregnancy-pro-life.html


"Women could get up to 30 years in prison for having a miscarriage under Georgia's harsh new abortion law"
"https://www.businessinsider.com/women-30-years-prison-miscarriage-georgia-abortion-2019-5"


"US women charged with murder following miscarriage"
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2011/07/misc-j06.html

"Women jailed for miscarriages"
https://www.rt.com/usa/women-shuai-pregnant-life/


"Indiana Sentences Purvi Patel to 20 Years for Feticide"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/indiana-has-now-charged-two-asian-american-women-feticide-n332761

...and on and on

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