The signs from dramatic climate change are not good.

[kentuck]

We read that salt water, from the Adriatic Sea, is back-filling into the Po River in Eastern Italy and killing off crops in areas that have been the breadbasket for Italy for hundreds of years. The crops turn black.

We read of dangerous food shortages in Sri Lanka and suspect there are many other places in a similar situation.

We read about huge dust storms in Illinois and Nebraska and harken back to the desperate days of the 1930's, when the top soil was blown away and there were food shortages all over.

Are we at the beginning of the huge drought of 2022?

Will the earth be able to feed all the people upon it?

The changes may be happening faster than any of us realize?

[SoonerPride]

1. We can always eat the rich.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. It is alarming

And there are people in colder places in the US that think, "meh, global warming will make the weather better where I am." That's not how it works, global warming means more extremes, it is making Europe's Winters much more severe for instance.

I'm in West Michigan, the Winters are getting less severe, and the Summers hotter, sounds fine right? Well we're getting more wind storms, seems like severe wind storms a few times a year right now where they used to only happen once every few years. And there's erosion issues on the Great Lakes. The insects are changing too.

But the migration that happens because of climate change are going to be what causing the most strife and wars. Much of the immigration we're seeing at the Southern border right now is due to climate change, it's just a little more indirect than what people imagine. The farming communities in the mountains of Central American countries have been disappearing because growing food is harder and harder there, that has overcrowded the cities as people flock to them looking for work. That has led to violence and poor living conditions in the cities, so families make the trek to come to the US.

Now setting aside foreign immigration, we're about to see a mass migration in the US. Millions of Americans who live along the coasts and the Southern part of FL are going to be moving inland starting over the next few decades. That is going to create conflict and strife.

Earthlings really blew it, we had it all and greed destroyed the planet.

[aocommunalpunch]

3. I'm in D-Town and we're learning to deal with flooding.

Wake up calls coming fucking everywhere and nobody’s picking up the phone. Nique-moi.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. I've seen the flooding on the Detroit highways

Just incredible, and not something that there is infrastructure in place to deal with. Michigan is low lying, unbelievable floods are going to happen. Pick your home wisely, too low and floods are a risk, too high and you might be more vulnerable to wind damage. In clay, your basement might flood. In sand, and erosion could be an issue.

And the bugs are going to get worse, and not just mosquitos. Black flies up north in the Summer right now make being outdoors unbearable in some locations.

The earth was a paradise, we've just laid waste to it. So depressing.

[MLAA]

5. You are right on.

[Johnny2X2X]

8. Gaylord MI yesterday

Extremely rare for this area which is in far Northern Michigan of the lower peninsula. Day time and it goes right through town. 1 dead and 44 injured.

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[anarch]

6. the thing about it is, it's way too late to stop some pretty serious damage

Whether it's this year or in ten more years, or twenty, we didn't do anything to stop the runaway train four decades ago or so, and now some fairly serious shit is going to hit the fan no matter what we do from this point onward.

We can still mitigate some of the worst potential outcomes, and adapt to deal with the unavoidable issues we've caused, but only if we take some fairly drastic actions pretty much immediately.

[2naSalit]

7. Will the earth be able to feed all the people upon it?

Wrong question.

The planet has no responsibility to keep us thriving upon it. We're actually more like vermin upon it instead. After what we've done, shitting in our own bed-which other species do not do, we really don't deserve a reprieve and there is no obligation for the planet to support us. That is a human construction that has no tether to reality. We have shown that we don't deserve to survive the consequences of our carelessness and disrespect.

The question that should be asked:

Will WE be able to feed ourselves with what's left of the biosphere that we've so willingly trashed for the sake of profit and convenience?

[hunter]

9. The "free market" won't be able to cope with this.

We have to figure out how we are going to relocate entire communities, those that are in the most danger, and we have to make plans for dealing with climate change refugees, not just at our national borders, but internally as well.

A similar thing has happened before, in the Dust Bowl of the 'thirties. Unaffected parts of the U.S.A. did not welcome refugees from that crisis. "Okie" was not a term of endearment.

I'm born and raised in California. When I was a kid the animosity between "native" Californians and those families who had sought refuge from the Dust Bowl was still intense. As a little pitcher with big ears I'd hear adults say things like "white trash."

Many refugees from the Dust Bowl states simply couldn't understand why some California employers didn't just lay off all their Mexican, Asian, Black, etc., employees in favor of Authentic White American Citizens like themselves.

And, of course, some employers did just that. My father-in-law is Mexican and Native American. His family has been in the Southwest for hundreds, and some thousands of years. They've been Mexican or U.S. American as borders and political conditions shift. During the Great Depression some of his aunts, uncles, and cousins left for Mexico because their workplaces had become extremely hostile as their employers hired white refugees for extremely low wages.

That's a history we shouldn't repeat. It's pretty easy to imagine a future where "Florida Man," who has lost everything to the rising sea, isn't welcome anywhere.

[jalan48]

10. Those who have the resources will be able to migrate to places where food is more available. The

rest of us will be forced to fend for ourselves in a law of the jungle society.