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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElon Musk is really doing an incredible job educating the public...
Link to tweet
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plimsoll
(1,671 posts)erronis
(15,469 posts)Seems like Hoyt shows up for awhile and then goes away - perhaps to get batteries recharged.
Lunabell
(6,141 posts)Probably taping up posters of musk on his bedroom wall.
Kid Berwyn
(15,060 posts)Musk considers the US government to be another corporation.
I think its a false dichotomy to look at government and sort of industry as separate...government is...the ultimate corporation, Musk said Tuesday at the WSJ CEO Summit, calling it a monopoly that cant go bankrupt, or usually cannot go bankrupt.
Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/elon-musk-government-is-the-ultimate-corporation.html
Dear Leader types regard corporations like any entity, to be controlled, managed and exploited.
wryter2000
(46,133 posts)The government would have to sell off every department except the postal service and maybe the department of education. The postal service operates in the black. The department of education probably earns more than it costs in raised income taxes for the people who get an education. The Pentagon is a huge money black hole.
Wounded Bear
(58,778 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,511 posts)Sympthsical
(9,192 posts)Hearsay.
dchill
(38,617 posts)It could still happen.
peppertree
(21,717 posts)Dark money.
NewHendoLib
(60,036 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,102 posts)Maybe they can get Joesph Gordon-Levitt to play Elon in the film adaptation, too.
NQAS
(10,749 posts)There are lots of wealthy people you just dont hear about. Whether theyre good people or pond scum, you just dont hear about them. You dont know who they are.
I like that. I am fucking tired if these billionaire narcissists who are in our faces every day. One day its begging for government bailouts or handouts, the next day its condemning the government. Just go the fuck away.
But twitter. Dont buy twitter. Go to space. Dont go to space. Buy 50 mansions and billion dollar yachts. Or not. Just do it. Or not. Just stop talking about it.
Bobstandard
(1,334 posts)I had plans to buy both the car and the power wall, but not now. If for no other reason than his antics make the long term viability of either/both enterprises less certain. Good job boss!
tavernier
(12,416 posts)that they look like bloated toads.
Ugly Car!
airplaneman
(1,244 posts)China's best electric car is $25K and has a 600 mile range and looks like an Infinity.
-Airplane
former9thward
(32,151 posts)requirements that American cars are required to have. I would much rather have an American car.
world wide wally
(21,760 posts)AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)Link to tweet
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sop
(10,297 posts)"Amazon deforestation surges to 12-year high under Bolsonaro"
"Bolsonaros great achievement when it comes to the environment has been this tragic destruction of forests which has turned Brazil into perhaps one of the greatest enemies of the global environment and into an international pariah too.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/01/amazon-deforestation-surges-to-12-year-high-under-bolsonaro
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)Warpy
(111,456 posts)probably by a silicone uholstered bottle blonde from Republican central casting.
SergeStorms
(19,205 posts)it seems to turn you into a know-it-all who can't keep your mouth closed. It also aligns you with fascists and other corporate criminals, and you actually believe everything you have to say is important.
Silly multi-billionaire. No one really gives a hoot what you have to say. You breathe rarefied air, and we peons are lucky to get a breath that hasn't been polluted by you corporate scions.
Go ahead, keep on talking, but don't feel offended if we don't listen to a damned word you say, alright?
Wednesdays
(17,475 posts)"And it won't make one bit of difference if I answer right or wrong
When you're rich, they think you really know!"
-- "If I Were a Rich Man" from Fiddler on the Roof
SergeStorms
(19,205 posts)Kind of like TFG bragging about grabbing women by the ______. "They just let you do it". I'm quite sure they don't, asshole. In fact, you're still facing 20+ lawsuits with that assertion still in question.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,206 posts)NickB79
(19,299 posts)I'm going to love watching Big Blue bury that smug fucker's company when they really ramp up F-150 Lightning production.
Mr. Evil
(2,865 posts)You just know that's going to put a serious butt-hurt on Tesla and the Musk-O-Rama!
Shipwack
(2,183 posts)Now I do because of its features and early reviews by mainstream car magazines. Not only does it cost the same or (less) than a similarly equipped conventional truck, it can also act as a "power wall" for the house!
Plus, Ford know how to build vehicles, unlike Tesla, whose vehicles have quality control problems.
Unfortunately, I doubt I'll be able to afford a $60K vehicle of any kind in the near future... 😕
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)And there are pretty substantiated rumors the next-gen Ranger will be, too as it leaves behind the old platform.
Ford is well on their way down a well-planned road to convert their entire fleet. The first step was the eco-boost that did start-stop; that was like a stepping stone to hybrids. And hybrids are a stepping stone to electric (or stand next to in certain narrow markets & likely will for a long time). But it takes time and baby steps to seamlessly switch sales, marketing, service and parts over.
NickB79
(19,299 posts)My Prius is 10 years old, and I need a small truck now that I've doubled down on my small farm/CSA business.
The 40 mpg hybrid is exciting, but I'm hoping for a plug-in hybrid or full EV model soon.
Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)https://www.sdjewishworld.com/2022/04/03/founded-by-an-antisemite-ford-motor-cos-leaders-became-pro-zionists/
Ford Motor Co in 2022 as a corporation works hard to fight racism, sexism and ableism. They perform frequent internal audits to ensure minorities make up at least an adequate percent of the workplace (which in their internal measures means at least the same same as society as a whole) and that includes all levels of management. That's worldwide, too - not just in the USA.
Also, when the new Ranger Tremor was announced, someone on Twitter called it "very gay" meant as a derogatory insult. Ford flipped that on its head and spent the time and money to have a special VERY GAY TREMOR make public & social media appearances to show support for their LGBTQ workers. It's fabulous and makes people smile.
So really Ford is sorta the anti-Tesla.
Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)NickB79
(19,299 posts)Doesn't mean I'm gonna praise Republicans. Times change.
Maybe in 40 years, one of Musk's kids redeems the family name.
Demovictory9
(32,493 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,778 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)And the code was so horrible as soon as they hired an actual programmer the first thing they did was throw out all the old code (rewrote it from scratch) as it was completely non-scalable and non-maintainable.
His job has always been the same as Trump: to come up with new bright shiny objects and convince investors to give him money for them, which he needs because the attempt at the prior last shiny object is going so poorly.
It's a shell game. He's one of those guys with a card table, three cups and a pebble. He just had the luck of birthright to be doing it on a much larger scale.
Demovictory9
(32,493 posts)Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Jobs loved to take credit for the technological innovations under Apple. The reality was he simply bankrolled brilliant engineers and programmers to design and build everything and then claimed it all as his achievements. Or He'd just outright steal other inventions (see Xerox PARC).
Musk is the same just an "investor" who takes credit for other rocket scientists work at SpaceX and auto engineers at Tesla. And how is making luxury cars for the privileged elite making the world a better place?
I about rolled my eyes in the back of my head last night on Bill Maher when Adam Corolla referred to him and "the smartest man in the world" Puleeze he's a modern day robber baron and an intellectual lightweight in the science community.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Later though, Apple became something very, very different under Jobs. Slightly more cult-like, some might say. Just as the idea of carrying a computer around all day was becoming feasible and even useful, Jobs saw that there was a distinct market of people who were not technical, at all. But if they paid him a rather exorbitant amount, he'd sell them a high tech device that even they could use and thus feel like they too were part of this computer-technology revolution thingy. I'm sorry, did I say he'd sell them that device? I meant, "he'd have them begging for it and waiting outside the doors at midnight the day the next model went on sale so they could buy the bragging rights".
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)mathematic
(1,440 posts)Sick of socialists trying to convince liberals they're fascists. Capitalism is not a fascist ideology. Capitalism is a liberal ideology. Elizabeth Warren even describes herself as a capitalist.
The truth is there are always people of every political ideology that think they can use fascists as a tool to win political power. They're wrong. Fascism is using them as a tool to win political power. Fascism wins because it is popular. The way to defeat fascism is to instill a culture of individual rights. LIBERALISM is the true anti-fascism.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Not bloody likely. They are still mad that the horse and buggy era ended too soon. Good luck Elon. There are plenty of EV alternatives that don't have fart noises as options. Screw Musk.
Aussie105
(5,492 posts)Why do riches, or pretention to riches, drive some over the edge?
Not to worry, most of us will never face that ourselves personally.
We just have to put up with them. Somehow.
Blue Owl
(50,578 posts)Or shall I say, tRumpdumb
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)No need to ally.
Scrivener7
(51,087 posts)Once upon a time, in the olden days, you didn't even know what a twitter was...
... and you were probably happier.