Thu May 26, 2022, 12:14 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
Perhaps it's time to put TSA in charge of school security
Federally funded of course. We don't want to put that burden on schools.
They could use the exact same techniques and equipment to secure our kids that they use nowadays to secure airplanes. While the TSA get's alot of flack from the GOP types, they have been 100% successful in stopping hijackings. The only downside is that kids might up to show up for school a few minutes early, but they would be 100% sure of going home alive.
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fescuerescue | May 26 | OP |
Miguelito Loveless | May 26 | #1 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #3 | |
DetroitLegalBeagle | May 26 | #7 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #13 | |
Miguelito Loveless | May 26 | #10 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #17 | |
Miguelito Loveless | May 26 | #19 | |
jimfields33 | May 26 | #8 | |
Miguelito Loveless | May 26 | #11 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #18 | |
BlueCheeseAgain | May 26 | #20 | |
FalloutShelter | May 26 | #2 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #4 | |
FalloutShelter | May 26 | #6 | |
dalton99a | May 26 | #5 | |
sl8 | May 26 | #9 | |
Cuthbert Allgood | May 26 | #12 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #15 | |
Novara | May 26 | #14 | |
fescuerescue | May 26 | #16 |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:21 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,076 posts)
1. Put the people who daily engage
in security theater in charge real security at a school?
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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #1)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:26 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
3. I'm criticla of the TSA as well. But we do have secure airlines now
I'd rather critisize the TSA every once in awhile, than read a out a school shooting constantly.
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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #3)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:43 PM
DetroitLegalBeagle (1,361 posts)
7. Luck is more of the reason they are security then the TSA
TSA has routinely failed at catching contraband when tested. 2015 it was 95% failure rate. In 2017 it was 70%. Maybe it's 50% by now, I haven't seen a recent test result. Besides, they are unarmed. And unarmed person is just a other target for active shooters. Put TSA where the TX shooting happened and at most they might have absorbed a few bullets that would have been destined for the the kids.
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Response to DetroitLegalBeagle (Reply #7)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:19 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
13. We need some of that luck in our schools.
One thing that we don't have at the airports in familiarity. School guards would get to know the kids and likely have better prediction skills based on what we know about a consistent group of kids walking through. |
Response to fescuerescue (Reply #3)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:12 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,076 posts)
10. If we controlled access to schools the way we do airports
that might work. I would be prepared to turn every school in America into an armed camp?
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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #10)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:23 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
17. It already is an armed camp
That school shooter wasn't shooting rubber bands.
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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #17)
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:41 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,076 posts)
19. I refer to the schools
becoming armed camps. Sand bags, razor wire, metal detectors, soldiers with combat gear. That is the only way to stop this happening.
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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #1)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:44 PM
jimfields33 (10,545 posts)
8. How about locking all the doors to visitors during school hours.
If a visitor does come, they need prior authorization and need to be buzzed in. I don’t see how difficult that’d be.
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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #8)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:13 PM
Miguelito Loveless (4,076 posts)
11. I guess we need to fence the schools in
as well, and lock the gates during school hours.
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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #11)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:25 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
18. That's already the case in tougher areas.
Response to jimfields33 (Reply #8)
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:46 PM
BlueCheeseAgain (451 posts)
20. Even if that worked...
Schools are only one place where mass shootings have taken place. I can't imagine you'd do all that in movie theaters, shopping malls, restaurants, outdoor concerts, university campuses, supermarkets, etc.
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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:24 PM
FalloutShelter (9,221 posts)
2. BY shifting this burden to the schools and the school districts
with all the attendant costs and political hurdles, the GOP inches ever closer to achieving another one of their long held goals...shutting down the public school system.
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Response to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:28 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
4. exactly. And it doesn't have the be TSA
But the TSA is a good model.
Heck call it the SSA (School Security Administration) Point being that moving school security to the Federal level is the right move. |
Response to fescuerescue (Reply #4)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:35 PM
FalloutShelter (9,221 posts)
6. I read something by a security expert yesterday...
if I can find it, I'll repost, but he essentially said that anyone who mentions that this happened because a door was unlocked does not know anything about security. He made the point that every public school in this country is required to have windows that are ground accessible in case of fire. It doesn't matter how many doors are locked. If someone wants to get in they only have to break a window.
Locked gates with razor wire.... gun towers... seriously what next? Let's see if we can make keep elected officials and our media from leading with "solutions" that put the burden on the schools and not where they need to be...on the GUN MANUFACTURERS. All they do is wring their hands and give us this double shuffle.... somehow it's the school's fault. ![]() |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:34 PM
dalton99a (70,320 posts)
5. Rich kids should be eligible for TSA PreCheck
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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:03 PM
sl8 (9,781 posts)
9. "TSA Misses 70% Of Fake Weapons But That's An Improvement"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelgoldstein/2017/11/09/tsa-misses-70-of-fake-weapons-but-thats-an-improvement/?sh=4111093e2a38
That's from 2017, maybe they've gotten better. |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:15 PM
Cuthbert Allgood (4,160 posts)
12. How does that solve this issue that just happened?
Dude would have just shot the TSA people that might have tried to stop him. Or they wouldn't have tried in the face of the AR15.
The answer to this problem is not more guns and security. It's changing our stupid gun culture. Until that is done, anything else is a bandaid on a severed limb. |
Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #12)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:21 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
15. Nothing brings those kids back
I've actually wondered why terrorist haven't targeted TSA myself. Lots of people standing close together. TSA is unarmed. Honestly I'm surprised that this has happened and I predicted that it would. Fortunately - I was wrong. |
Response to fescuerescue (Original post)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:20 PM
Novara (4,007 posts)
14. PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO REMOVE THE GUNS
Response to Novara (Reply #14)
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:22 PM
fescuerescue (4,166 posts)
16. Naturally.
But it'll take decades to sweep up 400 million guns.
About 1 year to secure to the schools. |