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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:09 AM May 2022

It's all about selling guns

it's all about selling guns. Guns are durable products. They don't wear out or spoil like shoes and milk. Once you buy a gun; it doesn't rot or wear out, needing to be replaced. Ah, but gun manufacturers need to stay in business and increase sales. So after the market is saturated with hunting shot guns and rifles, and everyone already has a pistol on their nightstand, guN manufacturers still need to make sales. I know, lets create a market for civilians to buy assault rifles. And we'll create a need for them by scaring people that there's a menace coming their way. Better to take your assault weapon with you when you go to the 7-11 to get some beer. But you'll be protected in case one of those scarey Moslems or a couple of big black guys come in the store.

Let's be clear about this. The gun lobby exists to sell guns. So it bribes politicians to resist creating laws to restrict or regulate gun sales. Corrupt politicians take gun lobby money to buy advertising and run campaigns to stay in power. They are not there to serve the people. They are there to serve corporate interests -- be it guns, Exxon, big pharma, etc.

But DUers know all this.

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KPN

(15,644 posts)
4. The NRA is a terrorist organization in effect. And
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:59 AM
May 2022

because “you never have too much money”, they don’t care … about victims, about carnage, about democracy.

Like any domestic terrorist group, our Homeland Security ultimate goal ought to be their extinguishment.

usaf-vet

(6,182 posts)
8. In 1956 Russian Communist leader, Nikita Khrushchev said.... [USSR then Putin's Russia now.]
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:42 AM
May 2022
“We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within.”

Russian Communist leader, Nikita Khrushchev said ......

“We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within.”

We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.

The United States will eventually fly the Communist red flag…The American people will hoist it themselves.

The press is our chief ideological weapon.

I can prophecy that your grandchildren in America will live under socialism -- Our firm conviction is that sooner or later Capitalism will give way to Socialism. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.

The John Birch Society is Communism's greatest ally. With its help we will divide and confuse the American people until they have lost faith in their Government, their nation has ceased to be a major world power, and their country is ripe for revolution.

We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.

Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think. Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge where there is no river.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. how do we know that the NRA is funded by Russia?
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:10 PM
May 2022

Can you cite some authority for that?

Given that Russia has a shit load of sanctions, would it not be appropriate for the Fed gov to shut off the money spigot, or confiscate their bank account, or some other punative measures?

dwayneb

(768 posts)
6. You are dead right
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:26 AM
May 2022

Follow the blood stained dollars back to the NRA and the gun manufacturers they represent. What a joke that gun owners think they represent them. They represent the enormously wealthy and powerful arms corporations like Smith & Wesson and Ruger, and no one else.

bucolic_frolic

(43,156 posts)
7. That's not fair. Ancillary profitable businesses feed Republican Gun Humping Poiticians
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:28 AM
May 2022

Carnage is a profitable growth industry and helps control the population. There is a big cash waterfall from carnage. Health care, funerals, churches, lawyers, financial planners, and with inheritances from the deceased consumer goods including more guns!

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
9. It was the other way around, manufacturers followed demand
Fri May 27, 2022, 08:24 AM
May 2022

Sometimes reluctantly.

In the late 1990s there were only three companies making decent ARs: Armalite, Bushmaster, and Colt. Then Rock River cane along with its cred bolstered with its FBI contract.

And then when the AWB expired demand grew and new companies with high quality ARs started producing. Eventually even the big companies like S&W and Ruger came out with their ARs.

The best marketing campaign for ARs was the AWB. The forbidden fruit effect drove interest and demand.

And attempts to renew the AWB cause massive panic buying over and over.

tanyev

(42,553 posts)
10. I think it's also about Russia using the NRA to influence Republicans.
Fri May 27, 2022, 08:26 AM
May 2022

One of those things that's much more obvious in hindsight than it was at the time it got started.

NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.

The report, available here, also describes how closely the gun rights group was involved with organizing a 2015 visit by some of its leaders to Moscow.

Then-NRA vice president Pete Brownell, who would later become NRA president, was enticed to visit Russia with the promise of personal business opportunities — and the NRA covered a portion of the trip's costs.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals
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