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littlemissmartypants

(22,806 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 02:54 AM May 2022

How self-deception allows people to lie

Self-deception can fool us into believing our own lies – and even make us more convincing.
By David Robson
30th May 2022

The media today is full of people who have lived a lie.

There’s Elizabeth Holmes, the biotech entrepreneur, who in 2015 was declared the youngest and richest self-made female billionaire. She now faces 20 years in prison for fraud. Then there’s Anna Sorokin – aka Anna Delvey, who pretended to be a German heiress, and subsequently fleeced New York’s high society of hundreds of thousands of dollars. And Shimon Hayut, aka Simon Leviev – the so-called Tinder Swindler.

What marks all of these people is not just the lies they told others – but the lies they must have told themselves. They each believed their actions were somehow justifiable, and – against all odds – believed they would never be found out. Time and again, they personally seemed to deny reality – and dragged others into their scams.

You might hope that this kind of behaviour is a relatively rare phenomenon, restricted to a few extreme situations. But self-deception is incredibly common, and may have evolved to bring some personal benefits. We lie to ourselves to protect our self-images, which allows us to act immorally while maintaining a clear conscience. According to the very latest research, self-deception may have even evolved to help us to persuade others; if we start believing our own lies, it’s much easier to get other people to believe them, too.

This research might explain questionable behaviour in many areas of life – far beyond the headline-grabbing scams in recent years. By understanding the different factors contributing to self-deception, we can try to spot when it might be swaying our own decisions, and prevent these delusions from leading us astray.

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More at the link.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220525-how-self-deception-allows-people-to-lie

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How self-deception allows people to lie (Original Post) littlemissmartypants May 2022 OP
Sociopaths and narcissists, run don't walk appalachiablue May 2022 #1
I've always called it believing your own bullshit, and it's often a fatal mistake Walleye May 2022 #2
I believe one reason for the "self deception" is their belief no_hypocrisy May 2022 #3
Good thread, pants. brer cat May 2022 #4
The truth for George Costanza Mosby May 2022 #5
TFG, Putin, etc. moondust May 2022 #6
"allows us to act immorally while maintaining a clear conscience." Hortensis May 2022 #7

Walleye

(31,056 posts)
2. I've always called it believing your own bullshit, and it's often a fatal mistake
Tue May 31, 2022, 06:42 AM
May 2022

Unfortunately other lives are lost in the process

no_hypocrisy

(46,191 posts)
3. I believe one reason for the "self deception" is their belief
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:05 AM
May 2022

that their body language, their voice won't give them away. If they believe it, it must be true. Therefore, they won't be challenged and they will get their way through covert manipulation.

My father hated that I'd call him out for using false facts, logical fallacies in order to get his way. And I was doing that as a child and he aimed his ire at me for that reason.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
6. TFG, Putin, etc.
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:44 AM
May 2022

I believe that's a big part of their act. He/they have practiced self-deception so many times for so many years and gotten away with it that they have come to believe whatever self-serving BS they dream up is indeed the truth/reality. Rigged election? True! Nazis running Ukraine? True!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. "allows us to act immorally while maintaining a clear conscience."
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:57 AM
May 2022

Yup, that's us. Some a whole lot more, and less, than others, but!

The story about the IQ test hit home fast. Oh, yeah! I have a lousy memory these days, but if I only need a little outside help to remember something I feel I "know" -- like a Jeopardy contestant supplying the answer (!), or if an answer won't "come" but I'm sure it's in there somewhere, or maybe I just feel it's something I once knew, I spot myself points.

Degree of vulnerability to self deception in "moral sincerity." Ouch.

How about the implicit hazards for self deceit on social media, like DU, where we discuss/argue positions we care about (anonymously!), as described in "persuading ourselves, persuading others?" The theory is evolution equipped us with ability for self-deception that creates unfounded overconfidence to help us influence others better. And it tests out.

Then there's what tends to happen with "picking sides" -- actual personal beliefs change to fit whatever side a person finds himself aligned with, even just temporarily. Also demonstrated in formal research, and seen in factional positions here. And "delusions of grandeur."

Oh, boy. I just googled "self deception" and "social media." We've been and are being studied.

Thanks for the article, pants.

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