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In It to Win It

(8,303 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:30 AM May 2022

JHC!!! Video appears to show Texas 911 dispatchers relaying information from children in classroom

GMA via Yahoo News

Video obtained by ABC News, taken outside Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, as last week's massacre was unfolding inside, appears to capture a 911 dispatcher alerting officers on scene that they were receiving calls from children who were alive inside the classroom that the gunman had entered -- as law enforcement continued to wait nearly an hour and a half to enter the room.

"Child is advising he is in the room, full of victims," the dispatcher can be heard saying in the video. "Full of victims at this moment."

"Is anybody inside of the building at this...?" the dispatcher asked.

At a news conference Friday, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McGraw said children inside the classroom had called 911 a number of times begging for them to "please send police now." It appeared that information may not have been relayed to officers on the ground, he said.
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JHC!!! Video appears to show Texas 911 dispatchers relaying information from children in classroom (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author secondwind May 2022 #1
At the very least, heads should roll. secondwind May 2022 #2
If they were in the military they could be charged with cowardice under fire. mn9driver May 2022 #3
isnt that grounds to fire a cop? mopinko May 2022 #5
Article 134 of the UCMJ, at the very least... SKKY May 2022 #22
The police are under no obligation to aid civilians Shipwack May 2022 #23
What is Delphinus Jun 2022 #34
To make sure POC stay in their place. Ray Bruns Jun 2022 #36
That decision needs to be challenged Novara Jun 2022 #39
Dereliction of duty if they were firefighters. we can do it May 2022 #7
The cops are lying about what happened PJMcK May 2022 #4
Stalling for time underpants May 2022 #8
It's like waiting out victims involved in a lawsuit (e.g., coal ash cleanup, etc.). Probatim May 2022 #11
Link to a thread about the relationship there underpants May 2022 #12
The tex-ass "public safety officer" (sarcasm icon implied) would have us niyad May 2022 #6
Let's get a criminal investigation started asap spanone May 2022 #9
The DOJ is investigating. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #19
And the police department in Uvalde has decided to quit cooperating... Mozeltov Cocktail May 2022 #28
They are not cooperating with the Texas DPS investigation. The DOJ investigation is separate In It to Win It May 2022 #29
Very odd considering that the mayor seems to be involved... Mozeltov Cocktail Jun 2022 #30
Was it that mayor that called Beto a "sick son of a bitch"? AdamGG Jun 2022 #32
All were white officers who knew the school was composed of Latino kids. Why get killed for them? machoneman May 2022 #10
That is not factual. harumph May 2022 #18
Nope. nt BlackSkimmer May 2022 #20
No..law enforcement was mostly Latino LeftInTX May 2022 #25
I don't know where you got that information, but it's incorrect. ShazzieB Jun 2022 #31
stop playing the race card from the bottom of the deck Dukkha Jun 2022 #35
Cops don't keep us safe. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #13
Everyday the official story collapses little by little ... aggiesal May 2022 #14
Tell me about it. Everyday is something different. In It to Win It May 2022 #16
The Supreme Court, Justice Scalia writing the majority opinion... Mozeltov Cocktail May 2022 #15
They'll all get medals, commendations, ribbons, promotions, and awards. NBachers May 2022 #17
Seems like the dispatcher was the only one who cared Hav May 2022 #21
On initial reports, it seemed like the entire emergency response apparatus of the city and county In It to Win It May 2022 #26
I hope all of those cops get assigned to Abbott's personal security detail. 70sEraVet May 2022 #24
+1 n/t area51 May 2022 #27
I'm thinking about the Capitol police who committed suicide after 1/6 SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2022 #33
I'd say this will be a big scandal Dukkha Jun 2022 #37
I think they will use this In It to Win It Jun 2022 #38

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. At the very least, heads should roll.
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:37 AM
May 2022

They need to be behind bars, imho.

He was inside the school for 77 MINUTES. 🤬

mn9driver

(4,429 posts)
3. If they were in the military they could be charged with cowardice under fire.
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:45 AM
May 2022

As civilians , probably nothing will happen to them. Except that they might lose their job.

mopinko

(70,294 posts)
5. isnt that grounds to fire a cop?
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:50 AM
May 2022

may not be exactly the same, but i sure hope they use that word in the firing docs.

SKKY

(11,831 posts)
22. Article 134 of the UCMJ, at the very least...
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:15 AM
May 2022

...although that would probably just be an add-on.

Shipwack

(2,180 posts)
23. The police are under no obligation to aid civilians
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:24 AM
May 2022

According to a couple of Supreme Court cases, police are not obligated to react to protect citizens…
https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again

As for being fired over this, I suppose they -could-. Florida is a so-called “right to work” state. They could be fired for having mismatched socked, or if the mayor wanted to give his nephew a job.

WILL they be fired… I dunno. It probably depends on if they can stall until the public loses interest, or if it is decided it would be a good PR move.

Novara

(5,866 posts)
39. That decision needs to be challenged
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jun 2022

I don't trust THIS SCOTUS but that decision needs to be challenged.

It appears that the Parkland students sued based on their definition of being in custody - i.e. schooling is mandated so they were in the custody of the state and therefore, police have a duty to protect people who are in custody. And the court ruled they were not in police custody, so they don't have a responsibility to protect them. Their Constitutional duty to protect only extends to people in police custody.

Seems a good lawyer could parse this - not based on custody, but another legal precept. Do cops take any sort of oath when they become cops?

........

A little googling says they do take an oath to the Constitution and then it would seem every police force is different regarding what else they may include in the oath. I'd like to know what sort of oath Uvalde cops take and if they can be charged with violating it. Something should be done. There needs to be accountability. If they get away with such unfathomable dereliction, then cops are basically useless.

I mean, they stood in the hallway for more than an hour while children bled to death! And they knew kids were still alive in that room!

PJMcK

(22,065 posts)
4. The cops are lying about what happened
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:50 AM
May 2022

They were cowards and now they're caught. Children died because the cops didn't do their damn jobs.

That police force should be disbanded and rebuilt with professionals.

underpants

(182,988 posts)
8. Stalling for time
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:11 AM
May 2022

They have to be hoping that the further we get away from that day, the more likely everything will just back to how things were. Since the Texas Dept of Safety (whatevs) jumped into it by get caught in flat out lies too they were provide cover for the local cops.

The people there (very close knit from what I understand) won’t forget and the man in the mirror don’t lie.

Probatim

(2,550 posts)
11. It's like waiting out victims involved in a lawsuit (e.g., coal ash cleanup, etc.).
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:49 AM
May 2022

If these clowns wait a few more days, another egregious mass shooting will take place and we'll forget about Uvalde.

That's a shitty thing to say. It's what will happen in the news. It's where we are as a society.

niyad

(113,748 posts)
6. The tex-ass "public safety officer" (sarcasm icon implied) would have us
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:51 AM
May 2022

believe that they needed information from the chikdren being massacred before they could do anything????

JFC, who trains these people???

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
19. The DOJ is investigating.
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:55 AM
May 2022

I hope something comes of that.

At the very least, that Arredondo idiot should be fired.

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
28. And the police department in Uvalde has decided to quit cooperating...
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:50 PM
May 2022

I'm guessing that there is still much worse revelations waiting to come out. I don't really want to speculate but the Uvalde police department released a statement within 20 hours of the shooting, stating that all the dead and wounded had been shot by the lone shooter...this was a stand alone statement about facts that typically would not be known within 20 hours of a shooting of this size and scope.
More telling now, is their refusal to cooperate with the DOJ...
Arrendonde was elected May 7th to serve on the city council...he was supposed to be sworn in today (May 31st).

In It to Win It

(8,303 posts)
29. They are not cooperating with the Texas DPS investigation. The DOJ investigation is separate
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:57 PM
May 2022

The DOJ said that the city mayor asked for the DOJ investigation... which sounds odd but ok

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
30. Very odd considering that the mayor seems to be involved...
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jun 2022

I did not know that there was a different investigation... thanks

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
10. All were white officers who knew the school was composed of Latino kids. Why get killed for them?
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:47 AM
May 2022

Doubt this fact? Check the pics posted here on DU of the cops, then read the names of the kids.

LeftInTX

(25,711 posts)
25. No..law enforcement was mostly Latino
Tue May 31, 2022, 02:57 PM
May 2022

Law enforcement is a popular career for Latinos in South Texas
Good pay, good benefits, good job security

ShazzieB

(16,606 posts)
31. I don't know where you got that information, but it's incorrect.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jun 2022

Uvalde school district police chief Pedro “Pete” Arredondo was the one in charge when the cops were all standing around outside the school with their heads up their asses instead of going in and rescuing the kids.



This story about the cops being white needs to die in a fire. It's not only untrue; it's a red herring creating a distraction from the actual facts.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
35. stop playing the race card from the bottom of the deck
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:30 AM
Jun 2022

Total bullshit fabrication. As bad as Canon conspiracist

aggiesal

(8,941 posts)
14. Everyday the official story collapses little by little ...
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:31 AM
May 2022

These officials have to either resign or seriously get voted out.

In It to Win It

(8,303 posts)
16. Tell me about it. Everyday is something different.
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:36 AM
May 2022

Either they tell a different version of the events or someone breaks it in the news.

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
15. The Supreme Court, Justice Scalia writing the majority opinion...
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:36 AM
May 2022

...ruled that police officers are not compelled or obligated to endanger their own safety...yep, that's it...

Hav

(5,969 posts)
21. Seems like the dispatcher was the only one who cared
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:57 AM
May 2022

about kids being trapped in the room with the killer. Very precise and concise delivery of the crucial information. The dispatcher who talked directly to the scared kids must be devastated as well.

In It to Win It

(8,303 posts)
26. On initial reports, it seemed like the entire emergency response apparatus of the city and county
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:53 PM
May 2022

completely failed at such a critical time. It just seemed like every layer of the system failed, from dispatcher to command to officers.

As more details come out, the picture gets clearer and the more it seems that isn't so true.

70sEraVet

(3,530 posts)
24. I hope all of those cops get assigned to Abbott's personal security detail.
Tue May 31, 2022, 02:41 PM
May 2022

See how confident he feels, that one of those cops would take a bullet for him.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,171 posts)
33. I'm thinking about the Capitol police who committed suicide after 1/6
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:41 AM
Jun 2022

I wonder what the actual reason was. Three of them I think.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
37. I'd say this will be a big scandal
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jun 2022

But who am I kidding they never care. It's always far more important to stay deeply entrenched in tribalism than to actually give a shit about their own children's lives. Their dysfunctional minds will spin any kind of excuse.

In It to Win It

(8,303 posts)
38. I think they will use this
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 09:55 AM
Jun 2022

To place the blame on the police, which they absolutely share some blame here. I think they are going to keep the topic on the actions of the police rather than the easy access to guns. They will blame the loss of life on the police rather than the guns.

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