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Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:02 PM

Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard verdict in

Will be read at 3pm EDT.

Should be interesting. I've followed the trial. She clearly lied her head off to take advantage of Me Too. He's a broken mess of anxiety and addiction. So . . . don't date either of these people.

Did she defame him? Seems pretty obvious she did. However, the law is not that straightforward, and defamation cases in this country are very, very hard to get a verdict on.

So, I'm about 50/50 on the verdict.

A small part of me thinks the jury will vote against both of them (Heard is counter-suiing). Pox on both your houses sort of thing.

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Reply Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard verdict in (Original post)
Sympthsical Jun 2022 OP
hlthe2b Jun 2022 #1
MontanaMama Jun 2022 #2
Sympthsical Jun 2022 #15
Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #38
Siwsan Jun 2022 #3
LizBeth Jun 2022 #4
Siwsan Jun 2022 #16
underpants Jun 2022 #29
obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #5
LizBeth Jun 2022 #6
PTWB Jun 2022 #7
jezebel321 Jun 2022 #8
Sympthsical Jun 2022 #12
BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #20
Thtwudbeme Jun 2022 #31
BrightKnight Jun 2022 #9
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #11
Siwsan Jun 2022 #17
BrightKnight Jun 2022 #33
Siwsan Jun 2022 #34
Nixie Jun 2022 #39
Nixie Jun 2022 #40
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #10
Sympthsical Jun 2022 #13
WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #19
BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #24
Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2022 #14
BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #18
Mosby Jun 2022 #28
Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #21
Sympthsical Jun 2022 #22
MissB Jun 2022 #23
underpants Jun 2022 #26
DenaliDemocrat Jun 2022 #35
BrightKnight Jun 2022 #36
DenaliDemocrat Jun 2022 #37
BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #25
BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #27
LeftInTX Jun 2022 #30
MissB Jun 2022 #32

Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:07 PM

1. It was a sad spectacle. I dont' believe Heard, but i don't have tremendous sympathy for Depp

either. So, you might be right..."split the baby..."

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:07 PM

2. I've loosely followed the trial.

If the psychologist is correct in stating that Heard is a borderline personality, it would make her quite difficult to deal with. Not that he's a peach either. I'm the child of a borderline...it has taken me a lifetime of therapy to move forward. They are almost impossible to deal with.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:33 PM

15. One psychologist said BPD and histrionic personality disorders

Dr. Curry, who was hired by Depp's team and interviewed Heard (also, she who brings the muffins).

It was kind of funny/weird. Dr. Curry explained all the behaviors associated with the disorder. Heard then got on the stand . . . and displayed all those behaviors.

Interesting enough.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:12 PM

38. My wife and mother in law both have BPD.

They can be extremely difficult to deal with, you are 100% correct. My wife put in a lot of work in therapy to get her BPD under control a few years after we met, and she's doing really well now. Her mother, on the other hand... I can't say she hasn't tried, but she resists therapy with the "I'm too old to change" thing.

I've told my wife a few times that her mother nearly destroyed our marriage. When I first moved to Canada, I was here on a visa and couldn't legally work, so we ended up sharing a home with her mother. It was awful... the constant bouts of rage and screaming and throwing stuff and just being generally shitty and vindictive.

When my immigration came through, I went back to AZ to get my car and all my stuff. The night before I was due to set out for Canada, I went into my mom's little sewing room and broke down. I had a panic attack at the thought of going back and living in that house with my mother-in-law again. I delayed my departure a few more days, but I vividly remember driving out of Tucson and weeping at the thought of being in that house again.

So I can absolutely understand and sympathize even though I only endured it for a few years. I'm so sorry you had to experience it for so long, MontanaMama.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:08 PM

3. I'll be shocked if he doesn't win

I didn't watch the trial but kept up by watching video clips. I think Amber has some deep issues. And I'm pretty sure her career in Hollywood is kaput. And if he wins, he will likely never seen any of the settlement. She probably spent the money she was supposed to donate to charities on her not too stellar defense team.

Despite any of his addiction issues, he is pretty much loved by all areas of the entertainment business that have worked with him.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:11 PM

4. Don't quote me on it cause I do not follow any of this stuff, but seems I read this morning

That the woman had a new acting role.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:34 PM

16. According to IMDB she's listed in one pre production project called 'Run Away With Me'

IMDB description: An American in Paris falls for a model and the two become intertwined in the criminal underworld of the European modeling industry.

If it is completed the question is will it actually make it to theaters, go straight to 'video' or end up on some cable channel. Only time will tell.

I've never seen anything she's done so I have no idea as to how talented she actually is. I know her acting coach wasn't singing her praises. But, she's a beautiful woman so maybe she will find her niche.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:19 PM

29. I too. He wanted this televised. His team had a script.

And I mean that in a good way. There’s the legal stuff but he’s an actor and he wants to clear his name so he had a plan. The difference in the legal teams shows what money can do.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:12 PM

5. I followed the UK trial -- she is who should win this

But the Depp PR machine has been working overtime, and all of you fell for it, too.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:13 PM

6. That is why I walked into this thread. I don't follow but the little I have heard

this is what I was seeing and was wondering. Thanks for your post.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:15 PM

7. How so?

 

She got caught in lies repeatedly. Depp is not a sympathetic character but it seems he has the better claim for defamation than she does.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:22 PM

8. I totally agree with you. The venom towards amber heard has made me disgusted with depp and his team

Nt

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:28 PM

12. I followed the trial myself

I WFH and had end of semester things going on, so I had it in my ear much of the time.

My opinion is not based on PR. It is based on my own eyes and ears.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:49 PM

20. It's curious how many seem to hate her. I think they're both low-lifes.

She's no angel, but with his money, power, prestige, and being more physically strong than her...he could have walked away at any time.

I don't see him as a victim.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:27 PM

31. Looks like the jury did also

 

nt

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:23 PM

9. It is frightening that Heard can be that un-credible in a courtroom.

I lived with a woman with BPD for 4 years and it can be rough. Amber kind of ads an evil layer on top of that.

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Response to BrightKnight (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:24 PM

11. Frightening how?

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Response to BrightKnight (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:37 PM

17. I worked with a woman who had those same traits

She could lie and lie and lie and deflect and deflect and deflect, and never, ever admit she had a single fault or ever did anything wrong.

I was one of her targets and it made my life a toxic misery for years. And nobody would (or maybe could) do anything about it as she had an ongoing litigation with the company.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:36 PM

33. Like Trump, she lies and gas lights about absolutely everything. nt

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Response to BrightKnight (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:45 PM

34. And these sorts of people are always shocked, SHOCKED, I say, when their lies aren't believed

It will be interesting to see how much work she gets, from this point on. I have no idea about her acting skills but she is quite a stunner.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:17 PM

39. +1000, one I know as you described said it was harassment and obsession if you dared

to defend yourself against HER lies. It was only her privilege to malign others.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:20 PM

40. +1000, I had a similar experience, and she went on to be a false MeToo accuser, but

the case was eventually dropped. The accused should sue her, but I'm sure he's just glad to be rid of her.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:23 PM

10. People are being so fuckin weird about this case.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:30 PM

13. There are a few cultural things it touches on

Men being victims of domestic abuse, MeToo, cancel culture, feminism, etc.

I paid attention because it was a mighty fine trainwreck and I rubberneck at disasters I'm not involved in.

It's a terrible personal failing.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:49 PM

19. I know. And people are being really fuckin weird about it.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:12 PM

24. True indeed.

Like I said, I hope they both get a dollar. Or nothing.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:32 PM

14. I can't say how it's going to go down.

Sounds like there was abuse on both sides. They really need to walk away from each other long before they did.

The whole thing is messy.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:46 PM

18. Give them both a dollar.

That'd be perfect.

She's no angel, but he's clearly the more powerful figure, physically, financially, and industry-wise.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:19 PM

28. My prediction is a dollar for Depp.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 01:49 PM

21. The verdict is expected to be read on Wednesday, 1 June at 3pm (ET).

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:09 PM

22. The jury didn't fill out some of the forms

However, considering it was the damages section, sounds like someone lost.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:10 PM

23. I assume Heard lost

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Response to MissB (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:15 PM

26. With THAT crack legal team???

🔥💨

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Response to underpants (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:55 PM

35. Her legal team is a well-respected team

Elaine Bredehoft is considered a top lawyer in Virginia. When your client records themselves admitting to hitting their spouse and lamenting it was not a better hit, there’s only so much you can do. Taking a big shit in their bed doesn’t help your lawyer out much either. Then lying and saying he pushed Kate Moss down the stairs and Kate comes and testifies in HIS defense…

No matter how good a lawyer is, they can only do so much with a flawed client and a bad case.

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Response to DenaliDemocrat (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:58 PM

36. You can only polish a turd so much. nt

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Response to BrightKnight (Reply #36)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:59 PM

37. I see what you did there!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:14 PM

25. Lol! You can't make this shit up!

I was outside and came in when a friend told me the verdict was coming. Hollyweird.

Going back out...

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:19 PM

27. Totally off subject...does anyone else think Depp's male attorney looks like a young Karl Malden?

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:20 PM

30. Is there a verdict? I can't figure it out!

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:28 PM

32. Yes, Heard is liable for defamation

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