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Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:02 PM Jun 2022

Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard verdict in

Will be read at 3pm EDT.

Should be interesting. I've followed the trial. She clearly lied her head off to take advantage of Me Too. He's a broken mess of anxiety and addiction. So . . . don't date either of these people.

Did she defame him? Seems pretty obvious she did. However, the law is not that straightforward, and defamation cases in this country are very, very hard to get a verdict on.

So, I'm about 50/50 on the verdict.

A small part of me thinks the jury will vote against both of them (Heard is counter-suiing). Pox on both your houses sort of thing.

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Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard verdict in (Original Post) Sympthsical Jun 2022 OP
It was a sad spectacle. I dont' believe Heard, but i don't have tremendous sympathy for Depp hlthe2b Jun 2022 #1
I've loosely followed the trial. MontanaMama Jun 2022 #2
One psychologist said BPD and histrionic personality disorders Sympthsical Jun 2022 #15
My wife and mother in law both have BPD. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #38
I'll be shocked if he doesn't win Siwsan Jun 2022 #3
Don't quote me on it cause I do not follow any of this stuff, but seems I read this morning LizBeth Jun 2022 #4
According to IMDB she's listed in one pre production project called 'Run Away With Me' Siwsan Jun 2022 #16
I too. He wanted this televised. His team had a script. underpants Jun 2022 #29
I followed the UK trial -- she is who should win this obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #5
That is why I walked into this thread. I don't follow but the little I have heard LizBeth Jun 2022 #6
How so? PTWB Jun 2022 #7
I totally agree with you. The venom towards amber heard has made me disgusted with depp and his team jezebel321 Jun 2022 #8
I followed the trial myself Sympthsical Jun 2022 #12
It's curious how many seem to hate her. I think they're both low-lifes. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #20
Looks like the jury did also Thtwudbeme Jun 2022 #31
It is frightening that Heard can be that un-credible in a courtroom. BrightKnight Jun 2022 #9
Frightening how? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #11
I worked with a woman who had those same traits Siwsan Jun 2022 #17
Like Trump, she lies and gas lights about absolutely everything. nt BrightKnight Jun 2022 #33
And these sorts of people are always shocked, SHOCKED, I say, when their lies aren't believed Siwsan Jun 2022 #34
+1000, one I know as you described said it was harassment and obsession if you dared Nixie Jun 2022 #39
+1000, I had a similar experience, and she went on to be a false MeToo accuser, but Nixie Jun 2022 #40
People are being so fuckin weird about this case. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #10
There are a few cultural things it touches on Sympthsical Jun 2022 #13
I know. And people are being really fuckin weird about it. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #19
True indeed. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #24
I can't say how it's going to go down. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2022 #14
Give them both a dollar. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #18
My prediction is a dollar for Depp. Mosby Jun 2022 #28
The verdict is expected to be read on Wednesday, 1 June at 3pm (ET). Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #21
The jury didn't fill out some of the forms Sympthsical Jun 2022 #22
I assume Heard lost MissB Jun 2022 #23
With THAT crack legal team??? underpants Jun 2022 #26
Her legal team is a well-respected team DenaliDemocrat Jun 2022 #35
You can only polish a turd so much. nt BrightKnight Jun 2022 #36
I see what you did there! DenaliDemocrat Jun 2022 #37
Lol! You can't make this shit up! BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #25
Totally off subject...does anyone else think Depp's male attorney looks like a young Karl Malden? BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #27
Is there a verdict? I can't figure it out! LeftInTX Jun 2022 #30
Yes, Heard is liable for defamation MissB Jun 2022 #32

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
1. It was a sad spectacle. I dont' believe Heard, but i don't have tremendous sympathy for Depp
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

either. So, you might be right..."split the baby..."

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
2. I've loosely followed the trial.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

If the psychologist is correct in stating that Heard is a borderline personality, it would make her quite difficult to deal with. Not that he's a peach either. I'm the child of a borderline...it has taken me a lifetime of therapy to move forward. They are almost impossible to deal with.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
15. One psychologist said BPD and histrionic personality disorders
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jun 2022

Dr. Curry, who was hired by Depp's team and interviewed Heard (also, she who brings the muffins).

It was kind of funny/weird. Dr. Curry explained all the behaviors associated with the disorder. Heard then got on the stand . . . and displayed all those behaviors.

Interesting enough.

Jedi Guy

(3,184 posts)
38. My wife and mother in law both have BPD.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jun 2022

They can be extremely difficult to deal with, you are 100% correct. My wife put in a lot of work in therapy to get her BPD under control a few years after we met, and she's doing really well now. Her mother, on the other hand... I can't say she hasn't tried, but she resists therapy with the "I'm too old to change" thing.

I've told my wife a few times that her mother nearly destroyed our marriage. When I first moved to Canada, I was here on a visa and couldn't legally work, so we ended up sharing a home with her mother. It was awful... the constant bouts of rage and screaming and throwing stuff and just being generally shitty and vindictive.

When my immigration came through, I went back to AZ to get my car and all my stuff. The night before I was due to set out for Canada, I went into my mom's little sewing room and broke down. I had a panic attack at the thought of going back and living in that house with my mother-in-law again. I delayed my departure a few more days, but I vividly remember driving out of Tucson and weeping at the thought of being in that house again.

So I can absolutely understand and sympathize even though I only endured it for a few years. I'm so sorry you had to experience it for so long, MontanaMama.

Siwsan

(26,256 posts)
3. I'll be shocked if he doesn't win
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jun 2022

I didn't watch the trial but kept up by watching video clips. I think Amber has some deep issues. And I'm pretty sure her career in Hollywood is kaput. And if he wins, he will likely never seen any of the settlement. She probably spent the money she was supposed to donate to charities on her not too stellar defense team.

Despite any of his addiction issues, he is pretty much loved by all areas of the entertainment business that have worked with him.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. Don't quote me on it cause I do not follow any of this stuff, but seems I read this morning
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jun 2022

That the woman had a new acting role.

Siwsan

(26,256 posts)
16. According to IMDB she's listed in one pre production project called 'Run Away With Me'
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jun 2022

IMDB description: An American in Paris falls for a model and the two become intertwined in the criminal underworld of the European modeling industry.

If it is completed the question is will it actually make it to theaters, go straight to 'video' or end up on some cable channel. Only time will tell.

I've never seen anything she's done so I have no idea as to how talented she actually is. I know her acting coach wasn't singing her praises. But, she's a beautiful woman so maybe she will find her niche.

underpants

(182,729 posts)
29. I too. He wanted this televised. His team had a script.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:19 PM
Jun 2022

And I mean that in a good way. There’s the legal stuff but he’s an actor and he wants to clear his name so he had a plan. The difference in the legal teams shows what money can do.

obamanut2012

(26,063 posts)
5. I followed the UK trial -- she is who should win this
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jun 2022

But the Depp PR machine has been working overtime, and all of you fell for it, too.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
6. That is why I walked into this thread. I don't follow but the little I have heard
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jun 2022

this is what I was seeing and was wondering. Thanks for your post.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
7. How so?
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jun 2022

She got caught in lies repeatedly. Depp is not a sympathetic character but it seems he has the better claim for defamation than she does.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
12. I followed the trial myself
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jun 2022

I WFH and had end of semester things going on, so I had it in my ear much of the time.

My opinion is not based on PR. It is based on my own eyes and ears.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
20. It's curious how many seem to hate her. I think they're both low-lifes.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jun 2022

She's no angel, but with his money, power, prestige, and being more physically strong than her...he could have walked away at any time.

I don't see him as a victim.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
9. It is frightening that Heard can be that un-credible in a courtroom.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:23 PM
Jun 2022

I lived with a woman with BPD for 4 years and it can be rough. Amber kind of ads an evil layer on top of that.

Siwsan

(26,256 posts)
17. I worked with a woman who had those same traits
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jun 2022

She could lie and lie and lie and deflect and deflect and deflect, and never, ever admit she had a single fault or ever did anything wrong.

I was one of her targets and it made my life a toxic misery for years. And nobody would (or maybe could) do anything about it as she had an ongoing litigation with the company.

Siwsan

(26,256 posts)
34. And these sorts of people are always shocked, SHOCKED, I say, when their lies aren't believed
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:45 PM
Jun 2022

It will be interesting to see how much work she gets, from this point on. I have no idea about her acting skills but she is quite a stunner.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
39. +1000, one I know as you described said it was harassment and obsession if you dared
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jun 2022

to defend yourself against HER lies. It was only her privilege to malign others.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
40. +1000, I had a similar experience, and she went on to be a false MeToo accuser, but
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jun 2022

the case was eventually dropped. The accused should sue her, but I'm sure he's just glad to be rid of her.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
13. There are a few cultural things it touches on
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jun 2022

Men being victims of domestic abuse, MeToo, cancel culture, feminism, etc.

I paid attention because it was a mighty fine trainwreck and I rubberneck at disasters I'm not involved in.

It's a terrible personal failing.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
14. I can't say how it's going to go down.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

Sounds like there was abuse on both sides. They really need to walk away from each other long before they did.

The whole thing is messy.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
18. Give them both a dollar.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

That'd be perfect.

She's no angel, but he's clearly the more powerful figure, physically, financially, and industry-wise.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
22. The jury didn't fill out some of the forms
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jun 2022

However, considering it was the damages section, sounds like someone lost.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,475 posts)
35. Her legal team is a well-respected team
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 04:55 PM
Jun 2022

Elaine Bredehoft is considered a top lawyer in Virginia. When your client records themselves admitting to hitting their spouse and lamenting it was not a better hit, there’s only so much you can do. Taking a big shit in their bed doesn’t help your lawyer out much either. Then lying and saying he pushed Kate Moss down the stairs and Kate comes and testifies in HIS defense…

No matter how good a lawyer is, they can only do so much with a flawed client and a bad case.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
25. Lol! You can't make this shit up!
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jun 2022

I was outside and came in when a friend told me the verdict was coming. Hollyweird.

Going back out...

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