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Should Biden roll back the Trump/GOP tax cuts for the wealthy to fight inflation? (Original Post) RAB910 Jun 2022 OP
He doesn't have the authority. Congress would spooky3 Jun 2022 #1
I understand that, but Biden has the ability to get the ball rolling, so to speak RAB910 Jun 2022 #4
Nothing is going to happen at this point. Calista241 Jun 2022 #13
I don't think it would do much on inflation bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #2
propose this and an increase in immigration RAB910 Jun 2022 #8
How Does It Fight Inflation? ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #25
It's definitely Powell's doing. roamer65 Jun 2022 #24
How would he do that? onenote Jun 2022 #3
Propose a bill for Congress to pass RAB910 Jun 2022 #5
TFG's tax cut was passed with 53 republican senators. Claustrum Jun 2022 #6
That's one of the things I think he should do... SKKY Jun 2022 #7
You mean 18 cents a gallon would turn things around? The infrastructure is already falling apart. PSPS Jun 2022 #16
The infrastructure bill is already allocated. This is a very short-term remedy... SKKY Jun 2022 #23
Convince Sinema and Manchin In It to Win It Jun 2022 #9
How about rolling back the Reagan tax on SS income and unemployment compensation. Make doc03 Jun 2022 #10
It will fail JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #11
Well, those tax cuts need to be rolled back regardless of inflation (n/t) MissMillie Jun 2022 #12
All of them? MichMan Jun 2022 #14
i dont think that counts as 'tax breaks for the rich'. mopinko Jun 2022 #19
I've just many posters wanting to roll back all of the Trump tax cuts. MichMan Jun 2022 #21
op specifically uses the word 'wealthy' mopinko Jun 2022 #22
You're Cherry Picking ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #26
Even if he could, it would just fuel inflation. PSPS Jun 2022 #15
I am pretty sure that's not how the economy works RAB910 Jun 2022 #17
Consumers in the luxury goods market are unaffected by inflation PSPS Jun 2022 #18
Nope ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #27
Taxing windfall profits would help deal with the greed element of inflation. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #20

spooky3

(34,476 posts)
1. He doesn't have the authority. Congress would
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jun 2022

Have to write and pass the bill, then send it to him.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
13. Nothing is going to happen at this point.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:10 AM
Jun 2022

It's summer time, in an election year. Manchin has very specific requirements for his vote on reconciliation, and those requirements are probably out of line with other democrats.

Can you get 50 Dems to vote to raise taxes, and devote most of that to deficit reduction and some nebulous 'climate' initiative that hasn't be defined or explained? How does that help inflation and GDP growth? They'd essentially be saying that they were walking away from paid family leave, the child tax credit, voting reform, and a whole host of other Dem initiatives.

The GDP numbers for Q2 will come out in July, and I think they're going to be pretty bad and we'll officially be in a recession. I can't decide if it's good BBB didn't pass, because it would certainly take some of / much of the blame for the recession that was going to happen anyway.

bucolic_frolic

(43,286 posts)
2. I don't think it would do much on inflation
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:40 AM
Jun 2022

Those tax cuts went to investment accounts mostly. They only spend on an occasional luxury item.

Inflation is Powell's baby. Only 15% interest rates will cure it. And Powell is moving quickly to 3%. So inflation's with us for a decade.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
25. How Does It Fight Inflation?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

That accumulated wealth is not part of the velocity of money.
So, it's not contributing to the variable cash flow chasing a constant volume of goods.
I support high taxes on the very wealthy, but not seeing the mechanism for that reducing inflation.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. It's definitely Powell's doing.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

Increasing M1 money supply by over 50 percent was effectively a dollar devaluation.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
6. TFG's tax cut was passed with 53 republican senators.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jun 2022

I am not sure Sinema or Manchin will be on-board for rolling the tax cut back (Manchin voted for the tax cut if I remember correctly).

SKKY

(11,821 posts)
7. That's one of the things I think he should do...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jun 2022

...stoping the gas tax would be another solid move that could help reduce prices, even if only nominally.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
16. You mean 18 cents a gallon would turn things around? The infrastructure is already falling apart.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jun 2022

SKKY

(11,821 posts)
23. The infrastructure bill is already allocated. This is a very short-term remedy...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jun 2022

...especially if other states follow suit.

In It to Win It

(8,283 posts)
9. Convince Sinema and Manchin
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

That proposal lives for dies with them. They don't seem to be interested in raising taxes.

doc03

(35,365 posts)
10. How about rolling back the Reagan tax on SS income and unemployment compensation. Make
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jun 2022

the first $200 of interest and dividend income tax free as it was before Reagan.

JustAnotherGen

(31,881 posts)
11. It will fail
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jun 2022

Too many Democrats in Red States don't appreciate how much pain it has caused the middle class in the high COLA blue states.

Better to run on it in the midterms. That, and the fact that a bunch of traitors want to eliminate Social Security and Medicare.

MichMan

(11,971 posts)
14. All of them?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jun 2022

The increase in the standard deduction was very significant for taxpayers not itemizing. Rolling back that to 2017 levels would raise taxes significantly for millions of taxpayers.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
26. You're Cherry Picking
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

The OP specifically states "on the wealrhy".
Your example is not applicable to the OP.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
15. Even if he could, it would just fuel inflation.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jun 2022

If people have more money to spend, there will be no downward pressure on prices.

RAB910

(3,509 posts)
17. I am pretty sure that's not how the economy works
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jun 2022

the government taking some of the wealth from the wealthy will reduce demand which reduces prices

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
18. Consumers in the luxury goods market are unaffected by inflation
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jun 2022

When you're a billionaire, everything is essentially free.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
27. Nope
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jun 2022

The very wealthy are spending a very small fraction of their total income & asset growth.
Higher taxes would not reduce their consumption in the least.
Sombody with a declared income of (example only) $50 million, living off $2 million per month, pays $14 million in taxes. This leaves them with $12 million of uncirculated cash.
Raise the taxes to the pre-cut days and they'd pay $14.5 million in taxes.
This effects their consumption in no way.
Besides, government spending still ends up as cash into the system.
So, where's the lower volume of cash chasing after the fixed supply?

GoodRaisin

(8,929 posts)
20. Taxing windfall profits would help deal with the greed element of inflation.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jun 2022

For example the gas and oil industry is reporting record profits. Tax the “record” portion of those profits and return it to taxpayers in payments, tax credits, etc.

It’s already being done in the U.K.

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