This statement during last night's hearing is another BFD that needs investigation

[babylonsister]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/10/2103372/-This-statement-during-last-night-s-hearing-is-another-BFD-that-needs-investigation

This statement during last night's hearing is another BFD that needs investigation
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Friday June 10, 2022 · 12:26 PM EDT


This should receive far more attention:

8:40 PM: “The White House was receiving specific reports in the days leading up to January 6th, including during President Trump’s rally, indicating that elements in the crowd were preparing for violence at the Capitol.”

Source: Josh Marshall talkingpointsmemo.com/…

The White House was receiving reports for days…

This begs the question: From who?

There have been many excuses made for the inadequate security on January 6th, seemingly countless permutations of the same excuse: “yeah, their was some chatter, but it was dispersed across social media and no really saw this coming”.

Apparently, that was a lie. If the White House was receiving these reports they were getting them from someone. Who? To sentient folks paying the least bit of attention the potential for violence that day was always expected, though the invasion of the Capitol I will grant was not a given in most people’s thoughts, and security planning for the Capitol should have reflected that.

It did not.

So who, exactly, prepared and delivered these reports to the White House?

Was this same information shared with all of these agencies?

Why did ZERO of the agencies responsible for security that day fail to prepare for this potential?

As was testified to last night, there were hours of hand to hand combat at the Capitol being broadcast live to the entire world, and ZERO reinforcements were dispatched from our security forces, our agencies and National Guard responsible for not just planning the security but also to protect our Capitol and its occupants.

Christopher Ray (FBI) is a stone cold liar, as a look back at his testimony proves, as are the leaders of the National Guard and Secret Service that day.

The security failures were no accident. The failure to send reinforcements was no accident. They did not review the intelligence and then ignore it. They stood down. They did what the cops in Uvalde did, only without bothering to even go to the crime scene.

On January 6th every single person understood that ONLY TRUMP could order the insurgents to stop.

For over a year and half the Agencies responsible for this deliberate failure to provide proper security, and their deliberate failure to respond to the violence, boils down to this: Trump was in charge of security on January 6th. Trump got exactly the level of security he wanted in order for the breech of the Capitol to be possible, and for our election to be overturned.

[Frustratedlady]

1. When the issue of calling in the military comes up, the first thing that crosses my mind, is...

the fact that Michael Flynn's brother was promoted to a position in Hawaii, I believe it was, shortly after all the fuss arose with questions about why the National Guard or military didn't show up. I thought that was curious.

[Joinfortmill]

18. "Army now acknowledges the brother of Michael Flynn was a part of Army response to Capitol riot..."

Yup, remember this: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

[Frustratedlady]

41. Thank you. I had nor seen that article.

I hope Michael pays some price for his part in this fiasco.

[crickets]

46. 👆👆

[mopinko]

2. they stood down.

i wish i had a nickel for every time i typed that since that day.

they stood down. which is why they didnt let the biden transition team into the pentagon.

[modrepub]

5. There Was No Transition

for any government agencies. Remember?!? TFG refused to let anyone talk or meet with anyone representing Biden to do any planning for the next administration. Why? Because TFG and his cronies were concocting hare-brained schemes to stay in power.

I'm almost convinced that if TFG hadn't riled up his losers at the rally to storm the Capital, Republican shenanigans during the official electoral count would have delayed the vote long enough for Faux News and some of the state legislatures to start making noise. IMO, the rioters short circuited the plan. Dummy, f-ed up his own plan by sending a bunch of idiots to disrupt the count.

[mopinko]

7. there was also a huge shake up going on.

and the place was already shaken after 4 yrs.

i disagree about the effect of the riot. it was going nowhere w/o the mob. that's the only reason it got as far as it did.

[Tommymac]

8. The Proud Boys and OK's NEEDED the mob for cover. They drove them like stampeding cattle.

Without the huge mob to distract and occupy the few security forces deployed that day, those PB and OK assault groups would have been overwhelmed and would not have been able to effectively break in, hunt down, and 'neutralize' the proceedings.

The mob provided needed cover.

This is a playbook used for centuries by small dissident groups who want to take over power. Nothing new at all.

[Joinfortmill]

19. Yup. Needs to be an accounting.

[TigressDem]

35. tRump appointed Stoodge of Defence put the National Guard in a noose only he could release.

SO ahead of Jan 6, Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy sent a request for D.C. National Guard support.

The memo approved the use of only 340 National Guard soldiers and imposed extraordinary limitations.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/02/01/coup-f01.html

[mopinko]

36. yup.

they played a damn long game here.

[Atticus]

3. "REQUIRED READING"! Thanks. nt

[gab13by13]

4. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers

moved on the Capitol before Trump even spoke. Most of the crowd at the Ellipse was not privy to what was going down, Trump just needed them to storm the Capitol.

[Tommymac]

10. And the PB and OK's needed them to provide 'tactical cover' for their attempt to overthrow the gov.

This is from revolutionary playbooks that go back centuries.

Small dissident groups using large mobs to distract the security forces and allow them to perform their evil deeds.

Lenin was particularly good at this - the Russian Revolution was carried out by a relatively small core group of a several hundreds or perhaps thousands; they easily toppled a regime that ruled millions using tactics like this.

The French Revolution is also an example, along with the countless coups that occur in Banana Republics.

Nothing new.

[librechik]

25. yep. Confusion and distraction are all according to the ancient playbook. Then they play innocent

and make us prove it (much later) Also according to plan.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Inside Job: There are no spontaneous coups because they require planning and structure

So not only wasn't this spontaneous and involved a lot of planning on the outside, but it involved disarming on the inside

[malaise]

9. Simple

Lots of folks were part of the coup - Slobby had his own Politburo in place in several agencies.

[Fullduplexxx]

11. That's the deep state about which the party of projection complained

[KPN]

13. Everything nefarious they do, they project.

[malaise]

17. Ding ding we have a winner

😀

[mgardener]

12. National Guard DC

This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President.

https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/

[SledDriver]

14. This right here

[jaxexpat]

31. Great statement. Swooped in so close that guilty people all over the country ducked.

[2naSalit]

38. +1

Especially since the entire upper echelon in the Pentagon was replaced in December, including Mike Flynn's brother, a general or something. They were there to make certain there was no response to the attack and if they did anything, they had orders to HELP the attackers.

And don't forget the multiple "war rooms" at that hotel near the WH where all the VPs of the coup were hanging out and directing some of the event.

I have a feeling that we'll be hearing more about those things during at least one of these hearings.

[Martin Eden]

15. Republicans insinuate Nancy Pelosi is to blame for the failure to summon the National Guard

Does the Speaker of the House command the National Guard?

[oldsoftie]

20. NO! It was never up to her to order a deployment. Another lie by the idiots.

[paleotn]

27. Absolutely not.

She has zero authority when it comes to the military. That chain of command flows through the executive branch exclusively. She has some pull with Capital Police, but so does the Senate Majority Leader and both Sergeants at Arms on the Capital Police Board. Unofficially, every congress critter thinks they can command the Capital Police. That chain of command is a complete mess and needs to be clarified and fixed.

[Wounded Bear]

32. She can request action by the NG and other agencies, but other than that she has no authority...nt

[KS Toronado]

16. I believe every subject

the Select Committee brought into the light of day Thursday night
will be explained in detail in their future hearings.

[paleotn]

24. Agreed.

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. There is more information out there

I won’t attempt to quote, because I’ll probably get it wrong, but I know I have seen the following:

A memo regarding the restrictions on deployment of the national guard;

Communications from, I think, the mayor of DC regarding security for the event (IIRC, the mayor requested the NG not be deployed?)

I believe the committee is investigating this issue, and more information has already come to light, and hopefully more will.

[FakeNoose]

22. Yes it was a general topic of discussion here on DU

Any regular participants here on this board saw many discussions about what will happen on January 6th, also how will we get Chump to leave the White House. After losing the election it was obvious to many of us that he had no intention of leaving. We commented on the endless, useless lawsuits and demands for recounts by Rudy Giuliani and other lawyers working for Chump.

I don't remember any DUers saying they intended to go Washington DC on January 6th to support Biden. However many, many people said, "Oh no, I'm staying away! There's going to be a lot of trouble."

What we didn't know was that SOME government employees in the Capitol were working in coordination with the people running the coup - but it makes sense doesn't it? Chump always put a premium on "loyalty" to him, and anyone who worked for him was expected to obey orders like zombies to keep him in power.

On that day it took over 5 hours to get the National Guard to the Capitol building. Once they were there, order was restored. All those crazy people were sent home, and a few were arrested. Of course not every government employee agreed with the insurrection, but enough of them did, or at least they did what they were told without asking questions. That's all it took.

[paleotn]

23. I wonder....

if like Major Otto Remer in the movie Valkyrie, they knew it was a coup attempt, but didn't yet know which side they were on. I just can't chalk it up completely to confusion and bureaucratic mismanagement, though that did play a part I'm sure. That may lean conspiratorial, but I just ain't buying their excuses for complete failure.

[lark]

26. Every head of a national agency that didn't act should be replaced.

that includes Miley too, he too took no action when he should have. Of course Wray should be fired and investigated, but also the head of the national guard and secret service. They all stood down on that day and refused to take action and need to be held accountable.

[paleotn]

28. I've had this nagging feeling

that like ICE, the Secret Service needs a good scrubbing after 4 years in the Trump sewer. Recent failures of those on FLOTUS's team only confirm that.

[lark]

29. Same with me.

It's been deeply infected and needs a thorough cleansing of the drumpf rot and hate.

[TreasonousBastard]

39. Small problem-- who's gonna do that? If every one is suspect,

who is above suspicion enough to give the order?

[lark]

40. Biden or Garland?

[TreasonousBastard]

42. I personally agree, but the problem is we have to get maybe

half the rest of the country to agree. Things are so poisoned right now-- who knows how anything good can happen.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. "Every head of a national agency that didn't act should be replaced"

Most of the major agencies have had new heads confirmed or nominated under the new administration.

But on that January 6, Northam (who was governor of VA at the time) had their NG deploy -

Link to tweet

Garrett Haake
@GarrettHaake
Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard.
2:56 PM · Jan 6, 2021

Link to tweet

Governor Ralph Northam
@VAGovernor73
My team and I are working closely with @MayorBowser, @SpeakerPelosi, and @SenSchumer to respond to the situation in Washington, D.C.

Per the Mayor's request, I am sending members of the Virginia National Guard along with 200 Virginia State Troopers.
3:29 PM · Jan 6, 2021

That is when Milley interfered.

There's no "head of the National Guard". They are controlled and deployed by the governors but have federal linkage with their military branches through some leadership structure (e.g., the one that is mentioned the most is the "Army National Guard" ).

The very first hearing that the J6 Committee had, which all of a sudden has been "forgotten" with everyone calling this past week's hearing "the first" is here, and a whole part of it discusses what had happened with that failed/late NG deployment -

[Kid Berwyn]

30. That way, "Marshall Law"

Dimdonnie the Demented Moron figured:

Crowd was huuuuge. Cops were feeeew.

To maintain order during the certification of electors, the few cops will have to fire into the crowd, which likely would cause the kind of riot that would lead to martial law. Mike Flynn and his uniformed brothers could use the time to collect ballot boxes and voting machines from PA, WI, NV, GA, AZ, NM, MI and anywhere else the numbers came up wrong. Thankfully, Raffensperger. Otherwise today we’d all be speaking German.

[llmart]

33. This is really an important article.

I sure hope this comes out in the next hearings and is covered extensively in the mainstream news reports. This would have never risen to the extent it did (murder, war zone, injuries, etc.) if the National Guard would have been called up or even better, on hand before the animals started to assemble.

Remember, "It's going to be wild."

[TigressDem]

34. The FBI had no intelligence. THEN it did.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/part-due-free-speech-worries-fbi-never-issued-intel-bulletin-n1253951

The head of the FBI's Washington field office, Steven D'Antuono, had told reporters Friday that the FBI had no intelligence suggesting that violence was brewing before Jan. 6.

He reversed himself in a briefing to reporters Tuesday, acknowledging that the bureau did, in fact, have some intelligence. The FBI identified extremists who intended to travel to Washington and sought to stop them, he said, confirming a story first reported Sunday by NBC News.

[mopinko]

37. it wasnt a coincidence that they picked up tarrio in dec.

[crickets]

45. Interesting angle covered in the comments.

This view seems a bit too complimentary to Miller, but it's worth reading for the discussion of restrained USCP/MPD response and for the leadup to legitimate fears re Kash Patel. Yikes.

https://www.dailykos.com/comments/2103372/83777968#comment_83777968

subtropolis - Aureas2
Jun 10, 2022 at 02:39:36 PM

Yes, there was a lot of chum-in-the-water ranting about how “Anteeeefah” was going to be there in force. It was central part of their plan to attract bodies to DC that day. Right up there with, “stand back and stand by” and other rhetoric.

Little noticed, btw, was the huge effort to keep people on the Left away on Jan. 6.

But this was a very complex situation. We should be careful regarding the very limited reaction on Jan. 6. It isn’t all that it seemed. As at least one Capitol Police officer has recently stated, if they’d begun firing into the crowd it would have played directly into TFG’s plans, giving him the justification that he was looking for to declare martial law. It’s not as though many in DC, in federal law enforcement, etc. were not clear-eyed about what That Shitbag was attempting to gin up.

Not shooting more of those assholes is an extreme example, though. It also includes the decision not to deploy the National Guard ahead of the event, and the very late appearance of them after the shit hit the fan. The Shitbag even warned his (acting) SecDef to deploy thousands of them. Why was that rejected? Because Miller was concerned that their presence would become a big part of the Kabuki Theatre that President Shitbag was hoping for.

Not only could NG troops have easily become props for the cameras — a made-for-tv drama to justify martial law — but Miller himself might have been removed in the blink of an eye. Imagine that there’d been 40,000 troops — Shitbag’s suggested number — on the streets that day, and then Miller was suddenly replaced by Kash Patel.

tfg asked SecDef to deploy thousands of National Guard? Uh... can't remember details.

PolitiFact - See subtitle "A mention, no clear request." The number was 10,000.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week
no paywall https://archive.ph/rTkvG

The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. “We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests’ [emphasis mine],” Miller responded. “And [Trump] goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’” At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, “‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God.”

Ultimately it was DC mayor Muriel Bowser, not Miller, who was given blame for the lack of significant National Guard presence. One wonders if she could and should have been overruled. In hindsight the miscalculation seems a cold desertion of the relatively few USCP and MPD who were there that day.

On the day before all hell broke loose on the Hill, [Bowser] made it clear the D.C. police (MPD) would be running the show on the 6th, though 340 unarmed National Guard troops had been requested to help with traffic: “The District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD.”

Given more information or access to intelligence, would she not have made a different decision? Why wasn't she told?

What did Miller think of the criticism that the Pentagon had dragged its feet in sending in the cavalry? He bristled. “Oh, that is complete horseshit. I gotta tell you, I cannot wait to go to the Hill and have those conversations with senators and representatives.”

Oh, sweetie. We look forward to it too. As mentioned in the OP, what was your intelligence at the time and where did it come from? Did you share it with those on Capitol Hill planning the security for that day? Why weren't backup Guard troops standing by ready to go at moment's notice when the call came? Could your January 4 Memorandum to the Secretary of the Army have had something to do with that? What were Charles Flynn's thoughts on the matter?

I cannot wait to hear your explanations.