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Sun Jun 19, 2022, 05:50 PM

Help me out here. I'm confused about the New Mexico county that was ordered by NM. SC to ratify!

What would happen IF like Florida or Texas SC or any other RETHUGLICON state SC, refused to order one of its its own counties to do the same? Then what would happen?

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Reply Help me out here. I'm confused about the New Mexico county that was ordered by NM. SC to ratify! (Original post)
bluestarone Jun 2022 OP
duhneece Jun 2022 #1
bluestarone Jun 2022 #3
Hugin Jun 2022 #12
PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #2
bluestarone Jun 2022 #4
PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #5
getagrip_already Jun 2022 #8
PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #10
getagrip_already Jun 2022 #14
PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #15
yellowdogintexas Jun 2022 #6
bluestarone Jun 2022 #7
getagrip_already Jun 2022 #9
Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #11
jalan48 Jun 2022 #13

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:06 PM

1. It's a scary thought

Iím in this Otero County and Iím grateful we have a Democratic Secretary of State and AG.
The threat of violence here is thick. I was accused of making threats on the family who sold our commission on fake audit. ?t=11700
Then he posted a gun-porn picture on his Facebook page.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:13 PM

3. Sorry to hear this!

You're right this country is getting SCARIER day by day! I also thanked God you're Secretary of State was a Democrat. That's the reason i ask this question. Would shutting down our elections be that simple? (Just allow each county make their stupid fucking decisions) I'm pretty sure states like Florida and Texas WILL DO THIS! Than what? TYVM for you're reply. Stay safe there!

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Response to duhneece (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 07:24 PM

12. The two week sentence on a misdemeanor and time served was a real deterrent.

To nobody.

In fact it has only encouraged more horseshit.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:10 PM

2. Either the courts would have to decide who the candidate is, or there would be no candidate.

The matter could end up in the federal courts.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:17 PM

4. How many appeals would that take? (TY for you're reply)

Would this affect the Vice Presidents certification? I mean like in 2024 election, if enough states tried this BULLSHIT?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:24 PM

5. You'd have a sort of repeat of the Gore vs Bush court case, with the Supreme Court deciding...

what the state must do. The Vice President just counts the certified votes and in 2024 the Vice President is going to be a Democrat. The court would have to decide the issue before it is time for the counting.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:36 PM

8. according to kagro in the morning on kos.....

scotus is lining up a case to take on next session which will allow them to make a ruling that the judiciary - either federal or state - has no role in federal elections at the state level.

Elections (both federal and state) would solely be decided by state legislatures when an issue comes up.

Apparently some wanted to use the shadow docket this session to issue an emergency order, but it was kav who insisted it be done in regular session if there was no immediate crisis.

They have 5 votes for the position according to kagro; just not in the shadow docket.

Would this rise to an immediate crisis? If the county refuses the court order and appeals it, would that fast track it?

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 07:03 PM

10. The issue is the Constitution specifically gives the power to legislatures...

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.


Some Supreme Court justices wanted to throw Bosh v Gore back to the Florida legislature.

I would think any appeal would be fast tracked due to the time issue.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 20, 2022, 08:18 AM

14. It's still considered a fringe theory.......

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/03/18/contentious-fringe-legal-theory-could-reshape-state-election-laws

It's not just what is written in the constitution, a lot of these actions violate state law, which requires courts to get involved to resolve.

This ruling would give republican states a virtual lock on the electoral college, as well as federal election results.

What if they pass a law that says all candidates for statewide or federal office must be approved by the legislature? How many good candidates of ours would even appear on ballots?

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 20, 2022, 03:31 PM

15. Qualification for candidacy isn't in "times, places and manner". The Supreme Court has...

in the past struck down state laws imposing additional qualifications for federal office candidacy (similar to the "must provide tax returns" that some Democrats want to include).

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:28 PM

6. I do not know about any other Texas county but I can not imagine

our County Elections Officer refusing to certify.

The strange part about this NM thing is that these were primary votes. REfusing to certify meant that local candidates for county wide office would not be on the ballot, for either party. State wide and Federal elections would still be on the Nov ballot no matter what Otero county did. What was their objective?

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:32 PM

7. Agree with you here! Strange, for sure

Plus with my mind being more and more thinking this could be a dry run to F-up the 2024 election. They are going full speed ahead with everything they have to win.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:37 PM

9. see reply 8 above...

one has to wonder if this is a sleeper action.

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 07:15 PM

11. Their objective is to make voters think

elections can't be trusted. So why have them at all would be the next step. There are already many people who think it doesn't matter who gets elected.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sun Jun 19, 2022, 07:28 PM

13. I think that's the plan for the midterms.

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