Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:16 PM
Nevilledog (38,062 posts)
The G.O.P. Tries to Build a Gay GhettoLink to tweet Tweet text:
New York Times Opinion @nytopinion · Follow Conservatives have expanded the fight “from gay marriage to what they saw as an increasing prevalence and acceptance of queerness as natural and of L.G.B.T.Q. people as equals,” writes @CharlesMBlow. nytimes.com Opinion | The G.O.P. Tries to Build a Gay Ghetto Conservatives are launching a broad attack on gay rights and gay culture. 6:15 PM · Jun 22, 2022 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/opinion/republican-attack-gay-rights. html No paywall https://archive.ph/mjjdI This past weekend, the Republican Party in Texas voted on an outrageous platform that not only denies the results of the 2020 presidential election, but also rejects gay marriage and seeks to “protect” minors until they turn 17 against “predatory sexual behaviors,” such as drag queens reading stories aloud to children. Drag queens are predators, trans women are a threat and gay marriage is a violation of the “natural order”: This is all part of the widening and re-energized attack by Republicans on L.G.B.T.Q. people and culture in the wake of the Supreme Court’s 2015 ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges guaranteeing a right to same-sex marriage. The ruling was heralded as a major civil rights victory by its proponents, but many opponents of gay rights saw it as a lost battle in a war, not the loss of the war. For them, gay marriage is too big a development to simply accept. Dennis Prager, writing in National Review, argued that the ruling completed “the secularization of America” and sealed “the end of America as the Founders envisioned it.” Mitch McConnell, then the Senate majority leader, was a staunch opponent of gay marriage. He was one of six Republican senators to sign an amicus brief trying to convince the court to reject it. But after the ruling, even he acknowledged that there was little more that Congress could do. “The courts have pretty well spoken,” he said. *snip*
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Nevilledog | Jun 22 | OP |
Haggard Celine | Jun 22 | #1 | |
NullTuples | Jun 23 | #10 | |
Haggard Celine | Jun 23 | #13 | |
NullTuples | Jun 23 | #16 | |
Haggard Celine | Jun 23 | #19 | |
Skittles | Jun 22 | #2 | |
NullTuples | Jun 23 | #11 | |
Skittles | Jun 23 | #21 | |
madaboutharry | Jun 22 | #3 | |
roamer65 | Jun 22 | #5 | |
Missn-Hitch | Jun 23 | #9 | |
roamer65 | Jun 23 | #24 | |
vercetti2021 | Jun 23 | #12 | |
roamer65 | Jun 23 | #23 | |
Sympthsical | Jun 22 | #4 | |
roamer65 | Jun 23 | #25 | |
Duncan Grant | Jun 22 | #6 | |
IngridsLittleAngel | Jun 23 | #7 | |
NullTuples | Jun 23 | #14 | |
IngridsLittleAngel | Jun 23 | #22 | |
vercetti2021 | Jun 23 | #8 | |
KS Toronado | Jun 23 | #15 | |
AntiFascist | Jun 23 | #17 | |
rubbersole | Jun 23 | #20 | |
NullTuples | Jun 23 | #18 | |
world wide wally | Jun 23 | #26 |
Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:24 PM
Haggard Celine (15,380 posts)
1. The anti-gay talk has gotten way out of control.
And there have been actions, too, which are getting scarier all the time. It's a fucking religious/political movement that is trying to take over the country, and right now it looks like GLBT people are the new Jews. I'm hoping that it will die down after Pride Month is over, but it doesn't look like it.
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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:25 AM
NullTuples (2,898 posts)
10. Many of us expect it to ramp up to unforeseen levels in the lead up to the elections & beyond.
Response to NullTuples (Reply #10)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:28 AM
Haggard Celine (15,380 posts)
13. Yeah, didn't think about the elections.
It’s not looking good. Hell, I’ve been thinking about places I might go and considering making plans. Things just aren’t looking stable.
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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #13)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:38 AM
NullTuples (2,898 posts)
16. Please do be careful and keep yourself & loved ones safe.
Response to NullTuples (Reply #16)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:47 AM
Haggard Celine (15,380 posts)
19. Will do. You do the same.
Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:26 PM
Skittles (143,953 posts)
2. ...
"queerness as natural" sounds odd
I really wish the word "queer" not used casually, there is nothing, er, queer about LBBTQ. |
Response to Skittles (Reply #2)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:28 AM
NullTuples (2,898 posts)
11. We reclaimed the word; it is now used with pride.
True, not all LGBTQ people prefer it but most accept it and the trend is the younger they are the more likely they are to use it in certain contexts to describe themselves or our community / communities as a whole. The point is that conservative used to "other" LGBTQ people. Owning that and saying, "yes, we are other, we are unlike you, we are queer" is taking back the power they held over us.
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Response to NullTuples (Reply #11)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:28 AM
Skittles (143,953 posts)
21. I understand context
like, for example, when AA folk use the n-word - what I don't like is when I see articles with the work queer thrown around - you don't see the N word used that way.....it would be like women referring to themselves as ho's - I know it's been "claimed" but I think it is harmful when used in an official way, like in an article discussing serious issues faced by LGBTQ folk.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:28 PM
madaboutharry (38,309 posts)
3. Republicans are terrible people.
There is no way to say anything different about them. They are hateful abusers of human dignity.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:41 PM
roamer65 (31,963 posts)
5. They are fascists.
They will eventually try to send us to the gas chambers again like the Nazis.
This time we will fight. ![]() |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:11 AM
Missn-Hitch (1,342 posts)
9. Hear, hear!! Let me know when it starts and if you need an extra gun.
Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:28 AM
vercetti2021 (7,756 posts)
12. Goddamn right
We aren't going this time. Live free or die.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:35 PM
Sympthsical (4,279 posts)
4. I read that as "gay grotto"
I like that image quite a bit better.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:54 PM
Duncan Grant (7,991 posts)
6. A belief system rooted in religious fanaticism (typically, Christian).
I’m willing to discuss this with any Christian who believes otherwise.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:51 AM
IngridsLittleAngel (1,639 posts)
7. And then what? Bulldoze said ghetto?
I'm now convinced after the last few months that their goal is to lock us up and torture us into "normalcy" via "conversion therapy" or just wipe us off the face of the Earth.
It feels a lot like 1939... Except instead of thinking the Jews are the ultimate evil, it's us. |
Response to IngridsLittleAngel (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:37 AM
NullTuples (2,898 posts)
14. "Except instead of thinking the Jews are the ultimate evil" - LGBT people were rounded up into camps
That's where the pink triangle = gay liberation symbol came from. But when the war ended and the surviving Jews were freed, LGBT camp prisoners were typically moved to nearby prisons instead of being set free as being gay or trans was a crime even among the liberator nations.
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Response to NullTuples (Reply #14)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:37 AM
IngridsLittleAngel (1,639 posts)
22. Sadly, yes
It just feels like this time around, LGBTQ's are #1 on their list of hate, instead of just being "very high on the list". Not that the 30's and 40's were swell, but this time around there seems to be a lot more hatred.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:53 AM
vercetti2021 (7,756 posts)
8. As I've said
Our community like it or not need to arm themselves for the worst. Don't be a statistic
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:37 AM
KS Toronado (8,125 posts)
15. I'd like to know or see the evidence repugs claim about
drag queens reading stories aloud to children. Was it Green Eggs & Ham?
Was he in his work clothes at the time and not in drag? ![]() |
Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:38 AM
AntiFascist (12,425 posts)
17. The Republican Party of Texas now stands for white straight men...
unfortunately for them, white straight men are a minority.
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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #17)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:54 AM
rubbersole (495 posts)
20. White straight bigots.
And increasingly menacing. And mostly repulsive to the rest of America.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:40 AM
NullTuples (2,898 posts)
18. McConnell's line about ""The courts have pretty well spoken,"
Reminds me of the Pope's "who am I to judge"; it's a non answer that promises nothing and yet the media will run with it as if it is a show of support.
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:27 PM
world wide wally (21,022 posts)
26. Chimneys also violate the "natural order"
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