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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:46 AM Jul 2022

When they overturned Roe, they created tens of millions of pissed off Mama Grizzly Bears.

I shit you not, if you don't believe me, go out and talk to women you know and don't know. Women are going to vote this November in big numbers. Many men are also pissed off.

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When they overturned Roe, they created tens of millions of pissed off Mama Grizzly Bears. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
Count me as one of the men. Lochloosa Jul 2022 #1
I have four granddaughters EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #10
We have 3 teen grandsons to get to adulthood without fatherhood. Hortensis Jul 2022 #14
I hope to hell, yes. And ditch the pink, the silly knit hats and FIGHT for your RIGHTS with all hlthe2b Jul 2022 #2
Women need to vote in big numbers forever. MontanaMama Jul 2022 #3
Montana Mama, I don't see restoration in my lifetime either... Hekate Jul 2022 #22
I resent the "mama grizzly bear" trope Novara Jul 2022 #4
Yup. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #8
Substitute "angry" grizzly. hlthe2b Jul 2022 #11
How about finding something to substitute "mama"? Novara Jul 2022 #21
I DID. "ANGRY" I get your point but you ought to be able to get mine. It is not merely hlthe2b Jul 2022 #26
Sisterhood is powerful, but by all means let's argue over well-meant ways of describing relationship Hekate Jul 2022 #23
I hope so. While polls are shifting towards Dems, Republicans still have the lead Marius25 Jul 2022 #5
Abortion is an economic issue DLCWIdem Jul 2022 #15
I agree it is an economic issue but with a qualifier. LonePirate Jul 2022 #16
Some repubs have wizened up to this DLCWIdem Jul 2022 #18
Wised up, one hopes. Wizened is old and wrinkled. Hekate Jul 2022 #24
Frame it around contraception, which is very much on the chopping block. Planning pregnancy... Hekate Jul 2022 #25
My 72 year-old next door neighbor said she won't be putting Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #6
I would recommend the upside-down American flag.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #9
That would probably be pushing the envelope for her. Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #19
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #7
And not Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #12
soccer moms. mopinko Jul 2022 #13
I'll believe it when I see it at the polls in November. BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #17
Unfortunately, there are also many millions who are delighted with the decision DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #20
I'll believe it when I see it. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #27

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. We have 3 teen grandsons to get to adulthood without fatherhood.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jul 2022

And a granddaughter entering puberty.

We felt for those of our friends who found themselves having to raise grandchildren before, while abortion was widely legal. Well, guess what? My guess is the proportion of this era's grandparents-on-the-hook who always believed they were against abortion will rise while it's illegal, as others continue to use medication and other abortion as needed.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
2. I hope to hell, yes. And ditch the pink, the silly knit hats and FIGHT for your RIGHTS with all
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jul 2022

you've got. (and yes, I did march in the 2020 Women's March in response to Trump's illegitimate inauguration, but I thought the pink crocheted pussy hats were stupid then and I do NOW). But, fighting for our rights, damned right I will be out there for my generation and every other. Just expect an angry grizzly--wearing and seeing bull-fighter RED, not pink. (and not MAGAT)

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
3. Women need to vote in big numbers forever.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jul 2022

In the mean time abortion will be banned in many places and women will die as a result. I’m trying to be optimistic but I don’t see reproductive rights being restored in my lifetime. This is going to be a long damned road.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
22. Montana Mama, I don't see restoration in my lifetime either...
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:24 PM
Jul 2022

Ideals I supported my entire life, rights I worked for my entire life, the arc of history that I saw bending toward progress, justice, equality — all being smashed. I am in mourning.

The Court gutted the Voting Rights Act several years ago, they opened the door to dark money, they declared the personhood of corporations. The groundwork was laid for what is happening to our voting rights in the present moment.

As for this session in the SCOTUS, they appear to be ramming thru one poisonous decision after another, as fast as they can, before the summer recess. The Far Right in this country finally has the Supreme Court it has always wanted, and they all have a lifetime job.

I am 74. Their decisions will outlive me. The question is, will they outlive my daughter as well?



Novara

(5,843 posts)
4. I resent the "mama grizzly bear" trope
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jul 2022

We WOMEN are pissed off at our rights being stolen. We are not all procreators and that's kind of the point. We choose whether we want to be mothers.

I ever wanted children. I would have availed myself of an abortion had I become pregnant. I never needed one but I always knew I would do it if I got pregnant. I like sex; I never wanted to become a mother. There are lots of women like me. And now our uteruses belong to the government. And we're pissed off.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
26. I DID. "ANGRY" I get your point but you ought to be able to get mine. It is not merely
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jul 2022

"mama" grizzlies thatl respond when threatened and that is exactly what is occurring to all the women of the US. Time to see the forest, for the trees. Many here have no children, yet we are all ANGRY.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
23. Sisterhood is powerful, but by all means let's argue over well-meant ways of describing relationship
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jul 2022

Did I offend because you don’t have a biological sister?

Does motherhood (“mama “ ) mean only the bearing and rearing of children? Or can it include any nurturing relationship?

Does being compared to a powerful member of the animal kingdom offend you? When Women Who Run With The Wolves came out, I read it with considerable enjoyment, but found myself savaged by a young feminist scholar at the university where I worked, who took umbrage at any woman being compared to an animal.

Oh well, we do agree that the High Court has gone rogue — solidarity forever.



 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
5. I hope so. While polls are shifting towards Dems, Republicans still have the lead
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jul 2022

I'm just worried that the economy is a much bigger factor than Roe and people won't care as much come November.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
15. Abortion is an economic issue
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jul 2022

Can we get that message to everyone. It is health care. It darn well effects your bottom line. If they also ban contraceptives thats another issue. I can actually see insurance companies refusing to pay

LonePirate

(13,425 posts)
16. I agree it is an economic issue but with a qualifier.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Fri Jul 1, 2022, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

High gas and food prices are economic issues of today. Abortion is an economic issue of tomorrow.

People buy food and gas today; but women need to schedule an appointment a few days down the road for an abortion, provided they are pregnant in the first place.

Long term the abortion decision has much more impact but it often does not have the same immediacy.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
25. Frame it around contraception, which is very much on the chopping block. Planning pregnancy...
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:46 PM
Jul 2022

… is 100% an economic decision. Children are extremely expensive.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
6. My 72 year-old next door neighbor said she won't be putting
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jul 2022

her flags out for the 4th since half the country isn’t free anymore.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
9. I would recommend the upside-down American flag....
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jul 2022

Although from what i have heard, some of the deplorables have appropriated that form of protest.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
19. That would probably be pushing the envelope for her.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 02:24 PM
Jul 2022

We’re in the reddest part of DeSatan Land. The real kicker is she’s Catholic.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
13. soccer moms.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jul 2022

we called them that in '04, but they are the white college educated suburban women.
in '04, they voted their fears, and elected w.
obama tapped their hopes, and they elected him in '08. i. '12, they voted to keep the aca.
in '16, the idiot got i their heads.
in '20, they shook that shit off.

they'll be all ours in nov.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
20. Unfortunately, there are also many millions who are delighted with the decision
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jul 2022

We won't know for some time which way the balance tilts.

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