Numerous Secret Service Agents corroborate Hutchinson's testimony.

[madaboutharry]

Looks like Tony Ornato is a big fat liar.

Liz Cheney is like the cheese in a mousetrap.

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[Kingofalldems]

1. BOOM!

Numerous posts here the other night basically saying she may have been lying.

I hope they will apologize.

[Polly Hennessey]

2. They won't apologize. Their goal is to create

discord and negativity.

[Kingofalldems]

3. Of course.

[Mr. Evil]

19. Exactly.

If anything, they'll double down.

[calimary]

70. Beware the figurative trump "smoke bombs".

Think: okay… if talk and reports and scuttlebutt aren’t trending your way, whaddya do?

What KINDS of things, plural, can you do, and what are possible angles? Don’t forget, this guy is a fan of workarounds. He doesn’t care if it’s not proper, legal, logical, obligated, recommended, conciliatory, or anticipated, he’s willing to risk it.

And he won’t take a straight OR single path toward the objective, either. It’s the “get.” Whatever gets the win OR what he can CONVINCE you is a win, he’s not above doing it. Unless one prominent credible voice speaks up, warning that a few hundred resignations were at the front door right this minute and it wouldn’t be kept secret. That finally stopped one of Donald’s moves.

[Hekate]

4. I hope they will too. Why the eff would any of us here believe a Trumpista over her?

Especially since none of the Trumpistas will testify under oath?

[erronis]

8. Simplifying: Why the eff would anybody believe a Trumpista?

Unless your "belief" is necessary to justify your vile history on this planet.

Don't know many trumpistas. But I doubt any of those would recant. (Can't recant, cha-cha-cha.)

[MyOwnPeace]

33. Clarified it for you.......

INSERT FINGERS IN EARS, THEN SAY: (Can't recant, la-la-la.......)

[mcar]

55. I hope they do too,

but don't hold your breath.

[dalton99a]

5. Kick

[Tomconroy]

6. Cassidy Hutchinson may go back to working for Ted Cruz but

to my mind she's a hero and has more courage than most. Liz Cheney too.

[Paladin]

9. I would damn sure hope she could do better than working for Cruz. (nt)

[Demsrule86]

27. She is now toxic for GOP types...

[Tomconroy]

46. I hope someday DU can distinguish between their opponents

And the enemies of democracy.

[Beakybird]

7. BOOM!!!! Take that mofo!!

[Novara]

10. Who cares about a temper tantrum?

Isn't it more important that he sent an armed and violent mob over to wreak havoc on Congress?

What about witness tampering?

These are crimes that can be prosecuted.

He said/she said about a temper tantrum is a sideshow.

We need to keep our eye on the ball.

[Kingofalldems]

12. Assaulting a SS agent is a crime.

He needs to be prosecuted on any and all crimes.

[Harker]

15. When I'm reading history books, I'm inclined to dismiss any big conclusions presented

when the author bungles the small details.

Trumpsky denied it happened, but he's a known liar, so it's helpful to her broader credibility to have corroboration.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. Very well stated!!!! Agree 100%

[Harker]

34. Thanks, we're sticklers! n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

51. Ok here's a stickler question for you...:)

In the back of my mind I always wondered why/how FG told the crowd he was marching with them and then ended up in an SUV instead. Is there a clip at all of not him driving away but the point at which he was told he couldn't walk down? Like it he was marching East? And SeS grabbed him?

[Harker]

54. I believe he said, "...and I'll be there with you", not making any

reference to his mode of travel.

I think the SS men forced his tiny hand.

ETA... I doubt he's ever walked that far. Ever.

[alphafemale]

68. It is roughly two miles from The Ellipse to the Capitol

I do not think he is physically capable of walking that far.

Not even if you dangled a KFC bucket in front of him.

50 yards or so seems to be the greatest distance he will walk willingly.

[Harker]

56. Just reviewed it.

He does say, "we're gonna..."

Maybe the "we" means "you"? I don't think he planned to walk it, but I don't know.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

59. Yup. Key point I think. Maybe start by agreeing that

None of us who have observed his pathology for years picture him ever actually joining in with a rowdy armed insurrectionist crowd? He's a red tie office (self admitted germaphobe) guy. Pampered so much he never had to even mingle all his life... Just ride the elevator from his gilded penthouse down to his office.

[Harker]

60. Only if they cleared a path and kneeled, heads bowed

as he wobbled through the adoring throngs.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. Lol. My husband said the same thing... "We walked

It once... No way in hell could he make it down there! " from Wash Mem to Capitol .

[Laura PourMeADrink]

61. Although thinking about it more, guess that doesn't mean

He wouldn't go down there, with full SeS protection? That would mean the "lunge" could or could not be true. He might have had a deal, take me down there, protect me, let me give two thumbs up, then get me the hell out of there.

Why the clip of exactly how the SeS took him from the rally would be really interesting.

[Harker]

66. The image of him playing like a four-year-old in the cab

of the big rig came to mind.

[ecstatic]

62. Everyone has credibility against liar trump.

Until he and his anonymous backers go under oath, they're lying. Period.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. And that includes him wanting to be at Capitol!

[Rebl2]

17. Exactly

[48656c6c6f20]

21. It's a damn good thing I can see a whole spectrum

And not a narrow tunnel.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. Is that why your user name's so long? JK

I think it's a damn good thing too!!!

[wryter2000]

24. The only worry

I f she was wrong, it cast doubt on the rest of her testimony. We have proof of who is lying.

Figures Trump would go after a trivial part and not something important.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Exactly!

[alphafemale]

71. Normal people care. Geriatric toddlers are not appealing.

Evidence of a temper tantrum will turn people against him as much as video of him kicking puppies.

People hate screaming toddlers in public.

Let alone a near 80 year old junk food huffer throwing his ketchup plate.

[Cha]

11. This Good! Rt TY!

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[hibbing]

13. I'll say it again, his fans love this shit, macho macho man n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

49. True! Why I'm starting to believe my own crazy? theory.

1. trump loves himself too much to put himself in physical jeopardy going down to Cap knowing the mob is armed, knowing there would be violence.

2. Engel a known loyalist to the core

3. trump asks engel to come up with a macho story to make it sound like he wanted to go and wasn't scared. Wonder how long that ride was

4. Engel complies and tells everyone. Is that common for SeS? To blab?

[hibbing]

58. Does NOT sound like tinfoil hat stuff n/t

[Mozeltov Cocktail]

14. Tony Ornato has testified twice before the select committee...

The story about trump in the beast never came up but Mr. Ornato's testimony on other subjects was considered to be "less than forthcoming" and much of his testimony was "met with skepticism"...he is known for lying a lot, about things that don't matter and about things that do matter... Cassidy Hutchinson and Agent Engel do not share Ornato's reputation, they are both considered to be honest straight shooters.
And, as everyone is pointing out, the story is that the president of the United States knowingly sent an armed mob to the Capitol to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power.

[cloudboy07]

22. I just hope they are taking care of that young lady ! ------

she has more gut's than the whole republican taliban put together !

[BlueIdaho]

16. Arrogant Assholes

Always overplay their hand. Please Proceed.

[smb]

18. I Wonder If This Story Was Put Out As A Catspaw

It presented an apparent easy crack in the story for MAGAts to exploit... suckering them into going out of a limb with "rebuttals" and then having the limb sawn off behind them.

[halfulglas]

20. Cassidy is going to become a popular baby name for a while.

She's a hero just for telling the truth, especially after she got a non-Trump lawyer and could tell the whole truth. All these people trying to discredit her just make her look more courageous, just answering the questions.

[48656c6c6f20]

23. So it was the baby on The Assy Knoll

That started the coup.

I stole Assy Knoll from Nevilledog. It made me chuckle.

[eleny]

26. He made me chuckle, too

I even laughed about it over morning coffee today. It's worth resurrecting!

[eleny]

25. This is why it's good to keep powder dry on "he said-she said" events

Waiting a day or two at the most usually separates some chaff from the wheat.

[former9thward]

28. Who are the sources?

[H2O Man]

29. Recommended.

[OnlinePoker]

30. Has Bobby Engel been subpoenaed?

It would seem to be pretty easy to corroborate the story by talking to the person who had it happen to them.

[speak easy]

38. Agent Engel was deposed in early June

... Liz would not have asked the question, if Cassidy's and Bobby's account differed.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. What???? trump push his weight around? Remember

This sickening display

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[ARPad95]

43. Watch the tall guy on the left with a maroon tie. He smirks as if he knew what the POS orange

menace was planning to do and then chuckled to himself and thought, "he actually did it."

[Hortensis]

36. What did we say? WHO ELSE did Engel and Ornato share this choice anecdote with.

Big surprise that it was all over the SES.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. Ok here's my tinfoil hat again. Why was Engel, a trump lover,

Spreading this story? Like someone above said above MAGats love him being aggressive. Maybe Engel planted this to cover that FG was a weenie about being too scared to follow the gang.

[Hortensis]

45. :) Whatever? Don't forget, most of these people wouldn't qualify for

a D team if a normal presidential administration had one, and all tRump's threats couldn't make them keep their mouths shut, much less instill integrity and judgment. They were very famous for blabbing and stabbing.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. A-team at sleazy crime...but D-team otherwise. Makes me

So glad we have this Committee ! The truth will eventually come out.

[oldsoftie]

37. We don't need "heard accounts"; we need "I was there" & we need it under oath.

Period.

[speak easy]

39. Agent Engel was deposed in early June.

IMO Liz is choosing her moment to drop the hammer.

[Rhiannon12866]

42. Twitter reply:

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[MyOwnPeace]

73. It would be FANTASTIC

to see that "GUILTY/INNOCENT" poster on a billboard somewhere on a road near Merde-a-Lardo.
I bet that TFG would be reaching for another steering wheel!

[SergeStorms]

44. So, will Mr. Ornato still testify before the J6....

committee now?

My best guess would be.......no. Not unless he wants to add charges of perjury to his resume'.

[ms liberty]

47. Exactly as I expected. Liz Cheney is no dummy, and neither are the other committee members. n/t

[Emile]

48. I knew something happened or why would they had been talking about it.

[NoMoreRepugs]

50. The committee saying he lied is one thing, a staff member another -

Secret Service agents takes it to another level. As for the # of tRump lies I think we are closing in on 50,000 since he was sworn in……

[brewens]

52. I was sure they had more than Hutchinsons word about what happened, and I was going

to be pissed off if they didn't. I would have had her not tell that story if there was no way to corroborate it.

[Deminpenn]

57. "Cheese in the mousetrap"

Classic!

It's been nearly a week since Hutchinson testified but no one has offered to testify under oath to rebut her. That's when you knew Ornato was lying.

[enid602]

64. Liz

Liz does remind me a bit of the Cheshire Cat.

[musclecar6]

67. Cassidy

Will probably go to work for Liz Cheney when she runs for president in 2024. Course that’s assuming enough of the republicans quit fucking around with narcissistic megalomaniacs and get back to having stable quality candidates. Not that any of us democrats would vote for a republican, but at least if our candidate lost, we wouldn’t have a would be totalitarian tyrant running our country.

[Evolve Dammit]

72. Has the committee interviewed the other agents? Very troubling that some SS are in CULT 45.