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mcar

(42,334 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:01 PM Jul 2022

Uh oh. Ornato and SS lied

As most of us suspected. I wonder if the media and those who were trashing Ms. Hutchinson and the J6 committee over the anonymous denials will ever apologize.


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Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony of Trump’s altercation with Secret Service detail did happen, multiple reports say
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Uh oh. Ornato and SS lied (Original Post) mcar Jul 2022 OP
If they can confirm her story, they need to testify under oath. SharonClark Jul 2022 #1
Yes mcar Jul 2022 #5
OMG. Trump lied ??!!?? ..nt Jarqui Jul 2022 #2
Lock. Them. Up. SheltieLover Jul 2022 #3
Ok, now back to The Coup MFers. Baked Potato Jul 2022 #4
Seems to me as if the MSM was quick to cast doubt on her testimony. LoisB Jul 2022 #6
Yeah, and they should have known better. Trumpers lie. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #8
I am still searching for the vaunted "librul" media. LoisB Jul 2022 #17
Don't exhaust yourself. You'll never find them. paleotn Jul 2022 #22
You are so right. LoisB Jul 2022 #25
They owe her an apology mcar Jul 2022 #18
Hear, hear! LoisB Jul 2022 #19
They always do. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #20
CNN: Accounts of Trump angrily demanding to go to Capitol on January 6 circulated in Secret Service emulatorloo Jul 2022 #7
Again I'll say Ornato was on TFG's SS detail and got raised up into TFG's admin. thenelm1 Jul 2022 #9
Exactly.. bears repeating. Cha Jul 2022 #27
What possible reason could she have to lie? Demobrat Jul 2022 #10
"will ever apologize" BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #11
Get's better by the day ! cloudboy07 Jul 2022 #12
Ornato has to go testify under oath now. Justice matters. Jul 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Jul 2022 #16
Of course! Chump ordered Ornato to lie for him FakeNoose Jul 2022 #14
Even Fox News is calling him out on it. KentuckyWoman Jul 2022 #15
Even Fox! Sounds like they are gonna throw Trump under the bus. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #24
Oh Wow.. TY! Cha Jul 2022 #28
Lock them all up. Traitors and enablers alike. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #21
Ornato must have received one of those "He's watching you" messages from an intermediary. sop Jul 2022 #23
Of course, they did. Anyone who's aware Cha Jul 2022 #26
Media seems compelled to express another side of any story even where there isn't one.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2022 #29

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
1. If they can confirm her story, they need to testify under oath.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:05 PM
Jul 2022

As should those who says she's wrong. Until then, her testimony stands.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
7. CNN: Accounts of Trump angrily demanding to go to Capitol on January 6 circulated in Secret Service
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:42 PM
Jul 2022
Accounts of Trump angrily demanding to go to Capitol on January 6 circulated in Secret Service over past year
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/01/politics/secret-service-lunging-incident/index.html

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Then-President Donald Trump angrily demanded to go to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, and berated his protective detail when he didn't get his way, according to two Secret Service sources who say they heard about the incident from multiple agents, including the driver of the presidential SUV where it occurred.

The sources tell CNN that stories circulated about the incident -- including details that are similar to how former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson described it to the House select committee investigating January 6 -- in the months immediately afterward the US Capitol attack and before she testified this week.

While the details from those who heard the accounts differ, the Secret Service sources say they were told an angry confrontation did occur. And their accounts align with significant parts of Hutchinson's testimony, which has been attacked as hearsay by Trump and his allies who also have tried to discredit her overall testimony.

Like Hutchinson, one source, a longtime Secret Service employee, told CNN that the agents relaying the story described Trump as "demanding" and that the former President said something similar to: "I'm the f**king President of the United States, you can't tell me what to do." The source said he originally heard that kind of language was used shortly after the incident.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
9. Again I'll say Ornato was on TFG's SS detail and got raised up into TFG's admin.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jul 2022

That alone doesn't speak well of his credibility. Why would TFG have done that said unless agent was a true believer and profusely kissed TFG's behind. TFG only wants to be surrounded by fawning sycophants.

And, according to reports from late afternoon MSNBC, other SS agents are coming forward to reporters to confirm Hutchinson's story.

Demobrat

(8,980 posts)
10. What possible reason could she have to lie?
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jul 2022

She’s in their sites now, why on earth would she make it worse for herself?

BumRushDaShow

(129,091 posts)
11. "will ever apologize"
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:47 PM
Jul 2022

They know they threw the smear out there just ahead of a holiday weekend figuring people will forget. Well come Tuesday, there's no "holiday" and the discussion will continue.

Back in the day, they used to do mea culpas and have panel discussions about how they could "do better". But that rarely happens anymore and are few and far between. They are frustrated because they are trying to drive a narrative and it keeps coming back to something else that is not in their interest.

Response to Justice matters. (Reply #13)

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
14. Of course! Chump ordered Ornato to lie for him
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:20 PM
Jul 2022

... so he wouldn't look like an asshole. Well it's way too late for that!

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
15. Even Fox News is calling him out on it.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:29 PM
Jul 2022

Pulled from my MSN feed and surprised to find the Fox News logo at the top

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/january-6-committees-kinzinger-secret-service-agent-who-may-dispute-hutchinson-claim-likes-to-lie/ar-AAZ4KMj

Two Secret Service agents, Tony Ornato and Robert Engel, are prepared to testify before Congress that then-President Donald Trump did not lunge at a steering wheel or assault them in an attempt to go to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot, a source close to the Secret Service told Fox News' David Spunt this week.

The explosive new allegations were made on Tuesday by Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.

JANUARY 6 HEARING: TOP 5 MOMENTS OF EXPLOSIVE CASSIDY HUTCHINSON TESTIMONY ON TRUMP, ATTACK ON CAPITOL

A series of social media posts accumulated this week in which colleagues and opponents of Ornato have accused him of failing to tell the truth in the past and being a habitual liar.

"Tony Ornato sure seems to deny conversations he’s apparently had," claimed Olivia Troye, former White House Homeland Security advisor under Mike Pence. "First this one with Keith Kellogg in 'I Alone Can Fix It' [and] now he’s denying the story he told Cassidy Hutchinson. Those of us who worked w/ Tony know where his loyalties lie. He should testify under oath."

Cha

(297,303 posts)
26. Of course, they did. Anyone who's aware
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jul 2022

of what's been going on with the J6C knows they wouldn't have Cassidy Hutchinson give her Testimony, otherwise.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

Mahallo, mcar!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
29. Media seems compelled to express another side of any story even where there isn't one....
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:51 PM
Jul 2022

so they invent one to get more views and clicks.

Observer: This morning, the sun is coming up in the east.

American Media: But, but some say there's possibility that's an illusion and it's actually rising from the south. Let's call on our panel of experts to discuss.



I see it happen every day in the news......
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