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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:06 PM Jul 2022

Ubalde cop.checking his phone was waiting to hear from dying wife

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/07/14/uvalde-police-officer-who-drew-outrage-checking-his-phone-was-waiting-hear-his-dying-wife-during-shooting/

After leaked surveillance of law enforcement responding to the Uvalde shooting was published earlier this week, angry snap judgments and criticisms of individual officers flooded the internet.

Media organizations and social media users were up in arms over an image pulled from the video posted by the Austin American-Statesman and KVUE-TV that showed a policeman glancing at his phone as the shooter, in two adjoining classrooms just down the hall, was killing children and teachers with a semiautomatic rifle.

“This really makes my blood boil,” Terrance Carroll, a former speaker of the Colorado House of Representatives, wrote in a tweet. “This officer is checking his phone while kids & teachers are literally dying a few doors down.”

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But to Uvalde residents and officials investigating the shooting, the footage showed something else. The officer depicted is Ruben Ruiz, whose wife, Eva Mireles, lay dying inside one of the classrooms with the gunman.

Mireles told Ruiz in a phone call that she had been shot. Ruiz, standing in the hallway with his pistol drawn, was unable to get to her. Other officers ultimately escorted Ruiz from the scene and took his gun. Mireles was alive when police transported her from the classroom, but she died before reaching the hospital.
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Ubalde cop.checking his phone was waiting to hear from dying wife (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2022 OP
Thank you. Things aren't always as they appear even when you have video. n/t femmedem Jul 2022 #1
This is an important clarification... Spazito Jul 2022 #2
Important to know, but still somehow makes it all worse. intheflow Jul 2022 #3
They did the right thing LeftInTX Jul 2022 #9
If This Was The Fella With A 'Punisher' Screen On His Phone The Magistrate Jul 2022 #4
Yes..same guy Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #8
Yes. He's a pretty red guy LeftInTX Jul 2022 #10
I'm sorry, but if I was in his situation -- an armed police officer rsdsharp Jul 2022 #5
He did try and they did restrain him. Crunchy Frog Jul 2022 #12
They disarmed him, and "led him out." rsdsharp Jul 2022 #13
So lets see snowybirdie Jul 2022 #6
Nope, that makes him even worse scum. Jirel Jul 2022 #7
They all should be bagging groceries for a living HAB911 Jul 2022 #11
"Mireles was alive when police transported her... The Revolution Jul 2022 #14
As Others Have Said... ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #15

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
3. Important to know, but still somehow makes it all worse.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jul 2022

His WIFE was being killed and his fellow officers removed him from the scene when he tried to go help her.

LeftInTX

(25,555 posts)
9. They did the right thing
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jul 2022

No one wants an unhinged cop going in.

That's one of the very few things they did right

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
4. If This Was The Fella With A 'Punisher' Screen On His Phone
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jul 2022

I do not give the north end of a south-bound rat.

rsdsharp

(9,202 posts)
5. I'm sorry, but if I was in his situation -- an armed police officer
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jul 2022

whose wife had been shot in a room fifty feet away from me — the phrase “unable to get to her” would not apply. The “heros” in the hall would have to render me physically incapable of movement in order to stop me. Restrain me (bring a lunch, gentlemen), render me unconscious, or shoot me, or I’m going to try.

rsdsharp

(9,202 posts)
13. They disarmed him, and "led him out."
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jul 2022

“We’ll, gee, if you say so, Clarence. I’ll just let my wife bleed out.”

They’d have had to drag me out in irons, and it would have taken a number of them to get me in them.

snowybirdie

(5,236 posts)
6. So lets see
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jul 2022

A sworn officer with a gun knows his wife is nearby and shot. But he waits in a hallway awaiting a phone call or some order from someone before rescuing her and getting her medical help. A coward just like the rest of them. They all should be fired.

Jirel

(2,025 posts)
7. Nope, that makes him even worse scum.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jul 2022

His wife was dying in there, and he STILL did nothing. Cowardice on parade. “Sorry, honey, please text me. I won’t go try to save you before you bleed out. But I want to hear your last words, darling.”

The Revolution

(766 posts)
14. "Mireles was alive when police transported her...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:35 PM
Jul 2022

...from the classroom, but she died before reaching the hospital."

Right, so maybe waiting an hour wasn't a great idea?

I don't care that much about individual actions that might look strange. People can behave somewhat bizarrely or do things that seem out of place in high stress situations, and that doesn't necessarily mean anything. But as a group, it's obvious this was a complete failure by the police. Whether it is cowardice, bad training, poor leadership and organization, or some combination, waiting definitely cost lives.

ProfessorGAC

(65,176 posts)
15. As Others Have Said...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jul 2022

...this doesn't appear to be the vindication some think it is.
A cop, and his partners, were so terrified to do their job that the guy let his own wife die.
I'm not seeing how that makes him a wholly sympathetic character.

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