Newsom: We're up against the ruthlessness of the Republican Party (updated with 22 minute interview)

[IcyPeas]

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We’re up against the ruthlessness of the Republican Party .. Democrats need the Democratic PARTY, not the president, to organize with more ferocity of focus, more determination to set the agenda, and put the other party on the defense.” @foxla

Link to tweet

entire 22 minute interview here:

[Firestorm49]

1. Damn straight. Hmmmm, is this something we've been saying for a long time?

[aocommunalpunch]

2. Step 1

Identify them as the ENEMY and tell everyone how you’re going to defeat them. NEVER call them anything remotely nice. They are not to be coddled and told how much you want them to be “strong” or a “loyal opposition” or anything of the like. You go and crush them.

The donor class no like that, so I suspect more chasing of the bipartisan dragon.

[DBoon]

3. Don't whine, organize!

*WE* don't worship all-powerful authoritarian leaders as our salvation. We believe in the power of the people.

[Magoo48]

32. Organize indeed!

Democratic voters must realize that we will not be saved from the top down. We must organize, begin massive creative, peaceful, sustained direct actions and civil disobedience whenever we lose another piece of our freedom.

If we refuse to be inconvenienced now to protect our freedom, our entire society will experience inconvenience like we’ve never known in the not too distant future.

[Sneederbunk]

41. Will Rogers not withstanding

[certainot]

45. problem is they have an invisible and unique major advantage that dem organizing, GOTV, & donations

have always fallen short on - their rw radio monopoly of 1500 coordinated radio stations.

not only is it locally coordinated and is basically free for them, it's invisible to dems and we even let 87 universities endorse 260 of the loudest of those stations.

[andym]

4. Dont forget Newsom's winning message on Desantis and the GOP taking away freedoms

[BlueJac]

5. Absolutely!

[UCmeNdc]

6. Vote! Vote Blue!

F the GOP!

[FoxNewsSucks]

7. We've needed that for quite a while now.

I'm so sick of hearing about "our friends on the other side of the aisle".

They're not our fucking friends. Neither are the assholes that vote for them.

[Sky Jewels]

12. Amen.

The time to take off the gloves was 40 years ago.

[WiVoter]

16. Yes, Amen. nt

[ashredux]

8. He is positioning himself for 2024

[bahboo]

27. ???

[ashredux]

34. Beg your pardon?? Ah, try running for President.

[gulliver]

9. I don't see "ruthless" as a useful term to ghost the Republican product

That's a desired feature to many Republicans, so highlighting it makes them feel like they're on the right track. I like what he said about putting the Republican party on the defense, but even that could be better said as "keeping the Democratic Party on the offense." Present tense. Many Republicans have mastered the art of the implicit premise, the enthymeme.

[KPN]

14. I'm thinking he's not talking about converting Republicans. You are right about how they

will likely respond to being called “ruthless”. The same way the did with ”basket of deplorables”, they will see it as a virtue. Newsom knows that. He’s talking about how you deal with “ruthlessness” — not through traditional means — collaboration, compromise, give and take. Collaboration and compromise for the “ruthless” means you/we give one inch, they give nothing; then you give a yard, they give nothing; and then you give 10 yards instead of 8 yards. He’s talking about understanding that, being realistic about it, and using means that actually counter it.

I’m not saying anything you don’t already know though.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

24. He's speaking to us not them.

They are ruthless. They're without conscience or sense of duty. And they break oaths like they're meant to be broken.

[KPN]

55. Yup.

[paleotn]

38. They've turned implicit premise into an art form......

for at least 40 years. But their tactics and actions make it perfectly clear what their real intent is to anyone willing to watch and listen. As the old adage goes "when people are telling you who they are, believe them", be it implicit or explicit. The Dem political structure, however, has spent that same period thinking that Republicans can't possibly mean what they imply. Calling it hyperbole and falling back on the old "reach across the aisle" rhetoric to appear bipartisan. Sorry, folks. There's no bipartisan anymore. Not in a fight for the very heart and soul of the Republic.

I think Newsom gets that. You can't work with these people. But what you can do is learn from their tactics and make them our own. That's where ruthless comes in. Kick them on their heels and keep them there by accepting who they really are and making sure Americans everywhere know exactly what that is. The party of 10 year olds being forced to carry the fetus of their rapist, if she's not gunned down in her classroom first. THAT'S who these people are and the sooner we ruthlessly bash them over the head with that, ad nauseam, the better. Borrow the scare the shit out of people tactic. It works. A pissed and scared electorate votes. And in this case it's true. Roll out real life examples and rub the mainstream media's collective noses in it until THEY get off their lazy asses and finally get it as well.

[Bluethroughu]

60. I really like him, and I like my Governor also, Pritzker.

We need fighters, not friends of our enemies. I know that sounds harsh but the Republicans talk about killing democrats regularly and drowning government in a bathtub, so I do not view them as friends anymore. They hate us and they hate democracy, and this is why they attacked our country on 1/6.

[duckworth969]

10. Newsom

is impressing me with his directness and passion.

[yellowdogintexas]

35. I think he is going to be the Chief Cheerleader for the 2022 elections

He is directing all his force at the current situation, and his speeches are all over You Tube.

2024 is a long time away and redirecting focus to where it needs to be is essential. He is doing a great job at this.

We have a few others who are not on the ballot this year who can also do this. They will get folks to pay attention, and become familiar to voters should they decide to seek any higher office. I am thinking of Senators and Governors mostly but there may also be a few big city mayors too.

As for 2024, we need to STFU about it until after this election. Yes Newsome would be a fantastic nominee should President Biden decide not to run.

[paleotn]

39. It's a time for directness and passion.

Anything else is "Weimar Republic" dithering while our Republic burns.

[kiranon]

46. Agree. n/t

[Sky Jewels]

11. It's such a relief that a prominent Democrat really gets it

and is speaking out forcefully.

Thank you, Governor! Please run in 2024!

[cayugafalls]

13. We've been treating the 'thugs as friends, hoping they would come around.

They've been treating us as enemies to be defeated.

They have fought by Sun Tsu's model "make your enemies think you're they're friend"

We need to flip this...NOW!

Gov. Newsom is finally saying what a lot of us have been saying for a LONG time.

Democratic Party needs to stop coddling the enemy and start fighting.

We can be nice to "our' constituents, but we need to be fierce to those who oppose our party.

Fuck trying to win them over.

Time to just Win.

[Sky Jewels]

57. We should have started decades ago

like the right did.

[area51]

62. +1 n/t

[c-rational]

61. +1

[AlexSFCA]

15. Newsom's charisma is unmatched. I bet if Biden decides not to run again, Newsom will

[Upthevibe]

18. We need more of this!

I love my Governor.

Many people don't even know his story. Some think he's just a beautiful man in an empty suit. That's not the case.

More of this from everyone - PLEASE!

[wryter2000]

19. Love him and the message

Some suggestions on what to do would help. Maybe he can show the way.

[usonian]

20. WE CAN DO IT. WE WILL DO IT!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216929432

SAY IT!
• CLEAN AIR
• FAIR SHARE
• BALLOTS, NOT BULLETS
• JOBS, NOT MOBS
• GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF OUR GLANDS
(Got a better one? Share it!)

Creative Commons license.
STEAL IT. DEAL IT.
Now

[yellowdogintexas]

37. Thanks for those remarks. My "I vote for Democrats because.." yard sign

has space to write your reasons. Those are perfect!!!

Now I have to find some waterproof blue something to write on the sign

[usonian]

43. Great, thanks.

I had some alternatives to the last one, but this seemed the most universal.
And it actually works as a chant.

I wrote it because I was tired of waiting for DNC to come up with something.

And the article above triggered just that ... after my post

I wanted to include more, but I thought later that the key points are there, even if contained in one word --- for example, "bullets".

Without going into detail, that covers a lot of ground.

And activates the imagination.

Good luck.

I have found magic markers to be pretty permanent. Office stores will have blue if hardware stores don't.
YMMV

[Sympthsical]

21. Vaccuums want filling

I wouldn't have guessed Newsom, but I'm not objecting to it.

Certainly an interesting development.

[Hotler]

22. IMO, President Biden needs to stop reaching across the isle.

Mitch told Barack and Joe to go F themselves for eight years.
He told Joe to go F himself again. Mr. President, the man is not your friend and neither is Manchin. The stove is hot, stop touching it.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

25. I think Biden has had a hard time dealing with the new GQP.

I hope he adds advisers that think like Newsom.

[paleotn]

40. Bingo. 100%

[FakeNoose]

23. Gov. Newsom KNOWS about the ruthlessness of Repukes

He's on the receiving end on a regular basis. It's not the President's job, he's busy doing important stuff like leading the free world.

The rank and file Democrats must go on offense and stay there until further notice. That includes our Senators and Representatives, but it's also the rest of us. We're not just the BEST Party, we're the ONLY Party!

[paleotn]

26. Yes!!!! We should have been doing this since at least '80s

Better late than never. You're 100% correct, Gov. Newsom.

[LiberalLovinLug]

28. Yup. We despise McConnell

But he’ll go down in Republican history as a great hero who got a hell of a lot accomplished for them. Relentless ruthlessness and deception against the “enemy”

[TeamProg]

29. He's our guy! n/t

[bahboo]

30. he's a product of the bare knuckle politics....

of the Bay Area. As is Kamala. He knows the gloves have to come off....now....

[paleotn]

44. Nice to know there's a reservoir of pure, unadulterated Dem politics left somewhere...

The way it was meant to be. Much of the rest of the country is left with timid Dems, tripping over each other in a 40 year, mad scramble to the center right. One of the greatest political miscalculations in our history. God knows we're all paying for it now.

It wasn't resurgent conservatism that turned many Americans towards Reagan. It was a clear vision and strategy during difficult times, passionately promoted, with a willingness to kick the other guy in the teeth if warranted. Something Dems use to be good at and stopped being. That helped in the rise of the modern Republican Party, 40 years of rightwing propaganda, and acceptance of the fallacy that Americans are center right. They're not. Never have been. The 40 year choice between propaganda fueled, rightwing passion and weak Dem soup only makes it seem that way.

[Wild blueberry]

31. Yes!

We as a party of the whole are mightier. Let's power up Congress and our state legislatures with smart, strong Democrats who work for us, the people. Vote November 8.

[Initech]

33. And they are more ruthless than ever!

[Mysterian]

36. The Democratic party needs more of this

Young fighters. If the old guard is unwilling to fight the fascists, they need to step out of the way.

[kiranon]

47. 0r, change their rhetoric. It's long past time to talk tough and stop these traitors n/t

[SWBTATTReg]

42. We have been for a long time. I recall the brooks brothers riot led by repugs. Pathetic morons ...

faking a 'revolt' or angry crowd. That was what you called 'staged'. Also the invasion of the Capital was staged too in advance by tRUMP.

[MagickMuffin]

48. Where is the DNC and Jaime Harrison? I don't hear much about the party from him

I don't ever see anyone posting about him. I don't have cable so no news media, I depend on DU for that.


So, I never see posts describing what Jaime Harrison is doing.

What has he been doing to help with our messaging?

Is he going on news programs to discuss the upcoming elections and how vital it is to keep electing Democrats to get things done? Bills passed.

Is he discussing how much our country is in peril and it will only get worse if the Democrats lose seats?


Does he have a 50 state strategy or anything to help GOTV?

[uponit7771]

49. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾

[roamer65]

50. Lead Gov Newsom and I will follow.

He’s speaking truth to power.

[Xolodno]

51. And to think, the GQP had the audacity to try and recall him.

He then turned around and hit them so hard they are still don't know what hit them.

[aeromanKC]

52. President Newsom. I like the sound of that!!

Back to back Presidents, Newsome and Pete!! Dems future looks bright!!!

[poli-junkie]

53. Anyone have link to this entire interview?

Thanks in advance 🙏

[IcyPeas]

58. here ya go. 22 minutes

thank you. updated the OP too.

[Cha]

54. Speaking my language Too!! TY!

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Historic NY]

56. We need to strike will fire and not milk toast out of NC comments. ...

[Jilly_in_VA]

59. I've been saying it all along

It's time for us to get MEAN. Just as mean as RepubliKKKans and just as nasty. Hit 'em where it will hurt and hit 'em HARD. Pull no punches.