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Nevilledog

(51,170 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 12:09 PM Jul 2022

Republicans' hasty attacks on women show they were never pro-life



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Paxton suing over reminder that emergency rooms have obligation to screen, stabilize and treat patients at risk of death before transferring them to another facility How could anyone claiming to be “pro-life” seek to impede such a lifesaving intervention?

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Opinion | Republicans’ hasty attacks on women show they were never pro-life
The forced-birth movement is about controlling women, not protecting life.
8:28 AM · Jul 17, 2022


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/17/abortion-texas-paxton-indiana-rape-10-year-old-rokita-republicans-racing-to-prove-not-pro-life/

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Just when it seemed that forced-birth advocates could not be any more cruel or disdainful of women’s lives, Texas’s Ken Paxton stepped up to confirm this crowd is anything but pro-life. The Post reports that the Republican state attorney general “sued the Biden administration over federal rules that require abortions be provided in medical emergencies to save the life of the mother, even in states with near-total bans.”

Texas Republicans are apparently outraged by the administration’s recent reminder that under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, emergency rooms must screen, stabilize and treat patients at risk of death before transferring them to another facility. In the case of pregnancy complications (e.g., preeclampsia, premature rupture of the membranes), an emergency abortion may be recommended to prevent serious permanent injury or death. How could any public official who claims to be “pro-life” seek to impede such a lifesaving intervention?

As White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said on Thursday, “This is yet another example of an extreme and radical Republican elected official. It is unthinkable that this public official would sue to block women from receiving life-saving care in emergency rooms, a right protected under U.S. law.”

Perhaps “unthinkable” is the wrong word. Defenders of women’s fundamental right to access abortion have long argued that the forced-birth crowd is not “pro-life.” History and the experiences of other countries show that when abortion is restricted, maternal mortality increases. A truly “pro-life” politician would support birth control, prenatal care, Medicaid extension, child-care subsidies and other government initiatives. By and large, the right-wing abortion cops aren’t in favor of any of that.

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Republicans' hasty attacks on women show they were never pro-life (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2022 OP
OMG! 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #1
The US is filled with sociopaths, haters, control freaks, sadists, religious freaks and more. RKP5637 Jul 2022 #2
And a whole lot of Christian owned hospitals that are the only choice in a region... NullTuples Jul 2022 #12
Yes, I've run into that several times. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #16
As a trans person, with a trans daughter, it is terrifying. Whole swaths of the country NullTuples Jul 2022 #18
The US is frightening on so many levels. I really fear the future of the US. It's already RKP5637 Jul 2022 #19
It's been clear for a long time now that the worst people (psychopaths, etc.) are being allowed... keep_left Jul 2022 #15
And the runaway capitalistic system in the US often rewards them handsomely. The CEO that RKP5637 Jul 2022 #17
The 80s. moondust Jul 2022 #22
Jennifer Rubin is a must-read for me! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2022 #3
Thanks, I'm glad you mentioned this!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2022 #20
K&R for visibility. crickets Jul 2022 #4
The right is going to kill a lot of their own people. A LOT. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #5
Even if Mom is still around the eldest girl has to do a lot of the parenting Warpy Jul 2022 #7
Ugh. Yeah, the girls stuck in those types of families Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #24
Not in my extended family Warpy Jul 2022 #25
Good for you guys for escaping that life! Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #26
It wasn't my life, I grew up mostly isolated away from my cousins Warpy Jul 2022 #27
"Pro-Life" them LessAspin Jul 2022 #6
K&R for this post Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #28
If the GOP was pro-life Demobrat Jul 2022 #8
Kick & recommend for visibility. The GOP hates women bronxiteforever Jul 2022 #9
Love Rubin, but the attack isn't just on women. gulliver Jul 2022 #10
I realize that I'm not at risk with this suggestion. NQAS Jul 2022 #11
Not gonna happen. Those facing the loss of their liberty or license will not go out on a limb. Nevilledog Jul 2022 #14
1 in 6 hospital beds is owned by the Church. Their doctors *choose* to follow the Bishops' Directive NullTuples Jul 2022 #21
Conservatives are liars and hypocrites! Ziggysmom Jul 2022 #13
GOP motto: stand by and watch women die Novara Jul 2022 #23

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
1. OMG!
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jul 2022

Look at how fast they are to stalk, harrass, and threaten anyone for simply disagreeing with them, let alone give testimony against them! "value life" my ass!

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. The US is filled with sociopaths, haters, control freaks, sadists, religious freaks and more.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jul 2022

The GOP embraces them and gives them a party. It's a pretty dim future for the US with nut cases like these running about.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
18. As a trans person, with a trans daughter, it is terrifying. Whole swaths of the country
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jul 2022

...are in a very practical sense off limits to us to spend any considerable time in. Oh, there are lawsuits but some have stretched on for many years with the churches who own & run the hospitals just waiting for the current Supreme Court. And now, with the Dobbs ruling, I fear the Roberts Court may well rule that Christian owned hospitals have every right to follow their religious opinions rather than medical best practices. If that happens, it'll lead to a cascade effect since hospitals when it comes down to it in America are just another business. And if they have the Court-given right to discriminate then so can any other business.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
19. The US is frightening on so many levels. I really fear the future of the US. It's already
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:38 PM
Jul 2022

a horrible place for millions, and I fear it's going to become far far worse. If I could, I would get out of the US, but for me I don't think that's possible. It's all getting so damn creepy, weird and inhumane.

keep_left

(1,789 posts)
15. It's been clear for a long time now that the worst people (psychopaths, etc.) are being allowed...
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jul 2022

...to rise to the highest positions of power. And here, we're not just talking about politics. Look at what's been going on in the business world since at least the '80s.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
17. And the runaway capitalistic system in the US often rewards them handsomely. The CEO that
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jul 2022

can make the hard calls, for example, brutalizing employees. The US is really in need of a country-level psychiatrist.

moondust

(20,002 posts)
22. The 80s.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 04:09 PM
Jul 2022

Is where it all took a nosedive with Raygun, Milton Friedman, and Jack Welch. When Raygun was reelected in a 49-state landslide in 1984 I was pretty sure the U.S. was well on its way to Inequality Hell.

IMO the unbridled financial greed they unleashed in the 80s likely led to the unbridled political greed and lust for power we see from the corrupt GQP of today who will do anything to gain more power. As a result the U.S. may be looking at long-term minority rule and autocratic tyranny.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,679 posts)
3. Jennifer Rubin is a must-read for me!
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jul 2022

Her column runs in the Washington Post, and I have a paid subscription to that. I read her every day.

Her clear, logical and super-intelligent prose makes me happy that I stumbled on her posts!

This post is an excellent example of her lucidity.

Sky Jewels

(7,133 posts)
5. The right is going to kill a lot of their own people. A LOT.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jul 2022

Religious zealot "pro-life" women who intentionally try to pop out litters of kids for Jeeezus have many pregnancies, which means many opportunities for something to go very, very wrong. Some of them will not get timely life-saving care in cases of ectopic pregnancies and the like. We're going to see many families with lots of motherless kids. And of course the girls in the family will have to be the ones to do all the housework and child-rearing.

Warpy

(111,321 posts)
7. Even if Mom is still around the eldest girl has to do a lot of the parenting
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jul 2022

I've heard horror stories from within my own extended family.

Needless to say, the fertility rate dropped like a rock in my own generation. The boys wanted no part of that big family shit, either.

Sky Jewels

(7,133 posts)
24. Ugh. Yeah, the girls stuck in those types of families
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jul 2022

are basically servants who grow up to be vessels.

Warpy

(111,321 posts)
25. Not in my extended family
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:39 PM
Jul 2022

Late marriage, vasectomies, tubals, moving thousands of miles away from prying eyes to use birth control plus some strategies that were pretty novel made sure that the fertility rate plummeted.

Both male and female cousins did this stuff. Nobody wanted to recreate the chaos they'd grown up in.

It makes me wonder what's going to happen to the Duggar kids.

Warpy

(111,321 posts)
27. It wasn't my life, I grew up mostly isolated away from my cousins
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 02:50 PM
Jul 2022

and only connected with a few of them as an adult.

I sure as hell didn't judge them, no matter how they escaped.

Demobrat

(8,986 posts)
8. If the GOP was pro-life
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jul 2022

they would be passing federal laws to make sure all men took financial responsibility for the children they created. Penalties for abdicating those responsibilities would be swift and harsh. Not the wink-wink nod-nod where men can rack up years of unpaid child support with no consequences, like we have now.

But we hear nothing about men’s responsibilities to their children, whether the children are six weeks old or 16. That’s not pro-life. That’s anti-child.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
9. Kick & recommend for visibility. The GOP hates women
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jul 2022

with the heat of a billion suns. They will not rest until thousands upon thousands of women and children are dead from easily treatable gynecological issues.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
10. Love Rubin, but the attack isn't just on women.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 02:28 PM
Jul 2022

It's an attack on anyone who thinks people have a right to choose. And it's been a successful attack.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
11. I realize that I'm not at risk with this suggestion.
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jul 2022

Not a doctor.

I think this whole thing could be turned on it’s head if every doctor in the fascist states do their jobs. If an abortions is medically indicated, do it. If dual use medication is needed, prescribe it. And every woman picking up that Rx videos every step.

They - the fascists - can’t sue every doctor and every hospital.

Sunshine is the greatest disinfectant, they say. Shine a light.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
21. 1 in 6 hospital beds is owned by the Church. Their doctors *choose* to follow the Bishops' Directive
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:42 PM
Jul 2022

Not all doctors are Democrats. I'd even go so far as to say a fair number of them are Republicans.

Ziggysmom

(3,410 posts)
13. Conservatives are liars and hypocrites!
Sun Jul 17, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jul 2022

"You say you love your children above all else, and yet you are stealing their future in front of their very eyes. "
Greta Thunberg, Climate activist and Founder of Climate School Strike

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