Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Bo Zarts

(25,405 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:03 PM Jul 2022

A sad day in Idaho ..

What an extraordinarily sad day this was: 1. I learned that both pilots in yesterday’s crash of the Chinook helicopter fighting our “Moose” fire have died; 2. I turned in my Yale key and radio gear ; 3. I signed my resignation letter from the US Forest Service, and; 4. I ended my career as a fire lookout.

But the helicopter crash, and the deaths of two heroic pilots, eclipse everything else. These pilots were doing very dangerous work fighting a fire that did not have to happen. The Moose fire was human caused. It was started by an abandoned campfire.

The Moose fire will continue to inflict mayhem .. maybe worse. Because of selfish jerks and their campfire.

Due to the terms of my resignation, I’ll be around Challis for a few more days. Then, I’ll probably take a more direct route home to SC than previously described. The wind is out of my sails.

Challis, Idaho
July 22, 2022

51 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
A sad day in Idaho .. (Original Post) Bo Zarts Jul 2022 OP
... SheltieLover Jul 2022 #1
Virtual hug from me, Bo. We know it's really hard. Shrike47 Jul 2022 #2
... sprinkleeninow Jul 2022 #3
((BoZ)) blm Jul 2022 #4
I'm so sorry. Diamond_Dog Jul 2022 #5
Sorry Sorry Sorry. elleng Jul 2022 #6
I'm so sorry for the weight of it all on your shoulders. Nevilledog Jul 2022 #7
I'm so sorry. Solly Mack Jul 2022 #8
Saying good bye to a chapter in your life is hard enough. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #9
What a sad day indeed. Thank you for all your service, and for the amazing niyad Jul 2022 #10
BoZ, I'm so sorry. This is all so hard on you -- you're in our hearts Hekate Jul 2022 #11
Happy Trails, Bo Zarts Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #12
I'm sorry, Bo. brer cat Jul 2022 #13
... alwaysinasnit Jul 2022 #14
Good luck! Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #15
You leave one life...you enter another. Enter stage left Jul 2022 #16
Oh man, so sorry for the loss of your people. panader0 Jul 2022 #17
A tough last day. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #18
So sorry for the loss of your compatriots royable Jul 2022 #19
You sure had a great job.. mountain grammy Jul 2022 #20
Many times the brave die because of the fool purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #21
I am so sorry that it ended on such a sour note for you. flying_wahini Jul 2022 #22
Sorry to hear grantcart Jul 2022 #23
Holding you in my heart. Tough change, tough change. So sorry. n/t TygrBright Jul 2022 #24
I am sad with you... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #25
Oh no. Thus must be the worst day. MontanaMama Jul 2022 #26
So sorry. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #27
sorry to hear this Kali Jul 2022 #28
Oh my dear Bo, I am so sorry. What a sad day indeed, for you and the families of the pilots. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2022 #29
Bless you for your work. fierywoman Jul 2022 #30
So sorry. Crunchy Frog Jul 2022 #31
Thank you so much for all your hard work and vigilance, in the face of more than just calimary Jul 2022 #32
I've loved your posts through the years, and I'm so sorry Haggard Celine Jul 2022 #33
My heart is broken Traildogbob Jul 2022 #34
Thinking of you, with thanks. enough Jul 2022 #35
Devastating to hear HAB911 Jul 2022 #36
So sorry to hear this. KatyaR Jul 2022 #37
Consider taking the rest of the season off and 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #38
As a resident of Idaho BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #39
The US Forest Service is really crappy when it comes to fires. TeamProg Jul 2022 #40
So sorry, BZ. Know that you are loved. ❤ littlemissmartypants Jul 2022 #41
I have a loved one in Salmon Idaho Unwind Your Mind Jul 2022 #42
In 2016 our neighborhood suffered a horrible fire because of a couple of... momta Jul 2022 #43
Heros all marieo1 Jul 2022 #44
Thank you for your artistry. TdeV Jul 2022 #45
Sad to hear of those brave pilots and that you're closing that chapter of your life. SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2022 #46
I was just thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to take pics of neighboring campers' vehicles. brewens Jul 2022 #47
Damn. So sorry to hear about this. Take care. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #48
.. Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #49
... MiHale Jul 2022 #50
I'm so sorry. area51 Jul 2022 #51

elleng

(131,188 posts)
6. Sorry Sorry Sorry.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:08 PM
Jul 2022

We'll ALWAYS think of you doing your great work, and providing us all with great pics.

Irish_Dem

(47,501 posts)
9. Saying good bye to a chapter in your life is hard enough.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:17 PM
Jul 2022

But then two deaths of pilots in a related line of work is really hard.

Yes, a very sad and difficult day for you.

Sending you some good vibes.

niyad

(113,600 posts)
10. What a sad day indeed. Thank you for all your service, and for the amazing
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jul 2022

images you have shared with us over the years.

Have a safe journey home. Be well and happy in this new chapter of your life.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
12. Happy Trails, Bo Zarts
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jul 2022

Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.

Condolences to the families of those heroes.

Kid Berwyn

(14,990 posts)
15. Good luck!
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jul 2022

Losing two firefighting pilots in a fire that didn’t have to happen hurts and hurts us all.

Thank you for all you’ve done for the country, Demo Tex, in Idaho and who knows where else around the world.

Enter stage left

(3,400 posts)
16. You leave one life...you enter another.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:36 PM
Jul 2022

I was a RE Broker for 25 years...it was difficult to leave that life, but I retired, bought a new RV and have traveled from coast to coast across Canada & the U.S.

You'll find new horizons, but whatever you do, PLEASE do not quit posting your wonderful photos of what you see through your artists eyes. I've never tired of seeing your shots, and will miss the shots you took from your lookout.

You have a unique talent and an incredible eye for memorable photographs. I beg you, please keep us updated with your health problems (may they go away quickly)..but even more so with you beautiful camera shots.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. Oh man, so sorry for the loss of your people.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 10:44 PM
Jul 2022

And mad, like you, about an abandoned, unextinguished campfire.
Some years back we had the Monument fire here in the Southern Az Huachuca Mts.
Again, human caused. I think it was about 60,000 acres.
I have long envied you for your job--I would love it, and for your art with a camera.
I can only imagine the emotion of resigning after so many look outs and friends made.
Come down and visit the Huachucas sometime.
Fond memories, Desolation Angel.
P.S. don't stop posting your photos and/or posting your older stuff--always so good.

royable

(1,266 posts)
19. So sorry for the loss of your compatriots
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:13 PM
Jul 2022

and so sorry for your health situation necessitating difficult decisions.

Thank you so much for the tales you've told and the beauty you've shared here on DU over the years. I hope you'll continue to post your gorgeous images--if not from wild and rocky lookouts, perhaps from Gulf coast bayous.

I've always held a special place in my heart for fire towers, since they were often a destination of treasured day hikes with my father when I was little. They were often historic, they offered a vista above the encircling forest to the vast green lands beyond, and they held the mystique of being a temporary home for sentries and guardians and heroes.

Good to have met you briefly several years ago at the Mt. Lemmon Lookout. I so enjoyed the segment the local PBS affiliate made about you and your work and photography. It was a work of art.

Best wishes to you!

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
21. Many times the brave die because of the fool
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:19 PM
Jul 2022

I am sorry this tragedy has happened and lives and beautiful landscape have been lost.

Thank you for being a lookout for the land

flying_wahini

(6,667 posts)
22. I am so sorry that it ended on such a sour note for you.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:21 PM
Jul 2022


Can’t say I blame you. Just sad for all the heartache. I know you will miss it.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. Sorry to hear
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jul 2022

If my memory is correct your resignation was in part due to some health challenges that have created discomfort and limited mobility.

Hope your next stage allows you to recuperate and get your wind back.

2naSalit

(86,827 posts)
25. I am sad with you...
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:51 PM
Jul 2022

Having had my time with USFS cut far too short due, mostly to my physical issues, and feeling defeated.



And the two pilots, my frmr smokejumper pal told me about that this morning, it impacts everyone who's ever been involved in fire fighting in any position.



MontanaMama

(23,351 posts)
26. Oh no. Thus must be the worst day.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 11:52 PM
Jul 2022

I’m so so so sorry for the loss of these pilots and the end of your career with the Forest Service.

As the child of a career USFS employee…fire season is a weird and scary time. Even after my dad retired, he drove a helitac support unit for a private contractor. Wild land firefighting is in the blood and it never left him until he died.

I’m holding you in my thoughts during these hard days. Thank you for your work protecting lives and homes.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,727 posts)
29. Oh my dear Bo, I am so sorry. What a sad day indeed, for you and the families of the pilots.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:14 AM
Jul 2022

My deepest condolences on the deaths of those two brave pilots. How heartbreaking for all involved.

And for you to resign from the US Forest Service on that same day! And to end your fire lookout career too. Very tough for you, dear Bo.

Please take care of yourself. Rest and be well.



for the pilots

calimary

(81,527 posts)
32. Thank you so much for all your hard work and vigilance, in the face of more than just
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:28 AM
Jul 2022

selfish jerks and their campfire. That was just the latest offense.

I'm sorry Idaho is losing you. Fire lookouts serve us all, AND all creatures great and small. You're a blessing and an absolute necessity, and probably more often than you know, preventers of bigger disasters. Thank God they're there!!! And Thank God YOU were, too!

THANK YOU SO MUCH for this VITAL service you performed, Bo Zarts! You made a difference, whether you realize it or not. This was IMMENSE and INTENSE, life-saving and life-sustaining work you did. It's DEEPLY appreciated.

Haggard Celine

(16,860 posts)
33. I've loved your posts through the years, and I'm so sorry
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:48 AM
Jul 2022

to hear about the end of your career, your health problems, and the loss of the pilots. I hope you're able to find rejuvenation at home and that you have even more happiness and success with future endeavors. Rest up and come back stronger!

Traildogbob

(8,830 posts)
34. My heart is broken
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 01:23 AM
Jul 2022

For you. Our Forest Management program at my college trained Wildland firefighters. Very many came there just to fight fires. They became County Rangers with the states and with the Feds worked with USFF, BLM and NPS. Many took the next step to become Hot Shots and 2 during my tenure became Smoke Jumpers. We have lost a few from my time and it is horrible. Storm King Mtn, Granite Mtn broke my heart and others over the last 35 years hit close to home. The Story of Man Gulch was so horrible. I know how hard it is to get those jobs and the passion they had to do so. To have to walk away because of your reasons is terrible. Thank you for your service to our wildlands. And to all that have lost their lives doing so, my respect and love. RIP. Best wishes to you. So sorry. Idiots will never know what they have done, and I will just not say my thoughts about arsonist terrorist that try to burn out forest for some sick thrill.
Be safe, be at peace with your decision. So much respect to you.

3Hotdogs

(12,437 posts)
38. Consider taking the rest of the season off and
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jul 2022

Going back next year. The experience means much to you and is a valuable contribution.

I hope you do go back in memory of those pilots and other Forest service people who served.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
39. As a resident of Idaho
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jul 2022

I want to thank you for all you have done for my state. I would also like to send you my heartfelt sympathies in this difficult time.

TeamProg

(6,288 posts)
40. The US Forest Service is really crappy when it comes to fires.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jul 2022

They sit on their hands until the fire is way too big.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,042 posts)
42. I have a loved one in Salmon Idaho
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

She posted about the lost firefighters too.

I’m worried about them, they don’t seem to be seasoned wild fire survivors just yet. It’s been since last night that I heard any news. So, I sit here fussing 😕

Thank you for your perspective

momta

(4,079 posts)
43. In 2016 our neighborhood suffered a horrible fire because of a couple of...
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jul 2022

"selfish jerks and their campfire".

We were evacuated for a week, and I was convinced that we would have no home to come back to. We watched the flames draw within a few hundred yards of our house as we drove away.

The firefighters were amazing, heroic, incredible...there aren't enough superlatives to describe them.

Eight homes (though not ours, thankfully) were lost, and at least one beloved family dog that was home when his mom and dad, both volunteers, were fighting the fire that took him along with their home and all of their belongings.

The two selfish jerks had been camping illegally on private property. They left their campfire unattended in the hot, dry wind. Absolute morons.

Thank you for your years of service, Bo Zarts. You are most appreciated, as are the two pilots who were so tragically taken.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
44. Heros all
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jul 2022

I worked as a dispatcher during fire season for many years.......fighting fires is an extremely dangerous job, firefighters save many lives but there is always a risk.

TdeV

(159 posts)
45. Thank you for your artistry.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jul 2022

I've been appreciating your photo posts for years.
Also very sorry for your sadness.
Thank you.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
46. Sad to hear of those brave pilots and that you're closing that chapter of your life.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:37 PM
Jul 2022

We've enjoyed following you to the different locations, hearing the stories, marveling at the wonderful photos you've captured. Thank you for letting us ride along.

I remember, in earlier years, you had a dog who used to accompany you to your stations. If you don't have a dog friend at this time perhaps a rescue would help as you transition to your next chapter.

Many blessings on you for the work you've done these many years.

brewens

(13,629 posts)
47. I was just thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to take pics of neighboring campers' vehicles.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jul 2022

That might be something to promote good campers doing. Good campers shouldn't object. But for fucks sake, don't let it be a guvmint proposal! LOL That would never fly.

It seems like every year there are at least posts about slobs trashing campsites that might be identified that way.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»A sad day in Idaho ..