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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'The View' Picks ex trump aide Alyssa Farah Griffin as Meghan McCain's Replacement
It pays to be an ex-trumper.
Farah Griffin was a mainstay in Donald Trumps administration, initially working as Vice President Mike Pences press secretary before moving over to a similar role in the Department of Defense, eventually landing in the Trump White House press office. She resigned one month before the Jan. 6 Capitol riots incited by her former boss and thereafter became a fierce critic of the twice-impeached ex-president and his role in pushing blatant lies about the 2020 election.
Farah Griffins positioning as an anti-Trump ex-Trumper ultimately helped land her a role as a political commentator for CNN, where she became a frequent on-air presence, especially during coverage of the Jan. 6 House committee hearings.
Earlier this month, The Daily Beasts Confider newsletter reported that star comedian Wanda Sykes bailed on a View appearance upon learning that the former Trump flack was set to guest-host that day. She didnt want to be part of helping a Trumper launder her reputation, a View insider said at the time.
And then earlier this week, Confider reported that one CNN star requested that producers not book them for segments alongside Farah Griffin to similarly avoid lending credibility to an ex-Trumpers career rehab.
https://archive.ph/gdUvu
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-view-picks-alyssa-farah-griffin-as-meghan-mccains-replacement
chowder66
(9,070 posts)PatSeg
(47,461 posts)I really have better things to do.
Joinfortmill
(14,425 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)But I've never watched it, and no one I know ever talks about that show.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)betsuni
(25,531 posts)exposed to. Women viewers can relate to the panelists, discussion aren't too wonky and complicated. It's a great show.
Their message is very clear: It's up to you, Americans, to vote and choose who is representing you. Republicans are not representing you.
Don't know why so many don't like the show who say they don't watch it. Don't know how they know.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)A) They're likely just seeing clips presented without context to highlight things in a bad way
B) Other various reasons that they can handwave and distract with
C) They don't like women
You see the last one come up on liberal-leaning places quite often. It's a little subtle sometimes, but it's there. Hell, DU had a significant feminist slate of posters for many years that had this place become inhospitable during the 2016 primary season. I won't say DU became anti-woman, but they made it hard for a lot of women to stay here and a significant number left.
You can see in the language used about it. "Who watches this?" and so forth.
I don't sit and watch it regularly but my 82-year-old mother has for many years and she's pretty damn caught up on political happenings because of it and comes out on the good side of things from it.
betsuni
(25,531 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,644 posts)barbaraann
(9,151 posts)She's a treasure.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Corporate executives deciding "You know what we need to fill that seat? About 130 pounds of guano. Genius!"
Meadowoak
(5,546 posts)prodigitalson
(2,422 posts)I don't watch it but from I've seen both of them on the TV and she certainly seems smarter than MM.
choie
(4,111 posts)They're hiring a trumper? I hope Ana Navarro destroys her.
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)It's all about ratings. Ana didn't get into heated debates. Their ratings must've fallen.
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Meghan McCain served as the conservative co-host of The View from 2017 through 2021, bringing a rating surge as she got into heated debates with the other co-hosts during the Trump era.
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/the-view-alyssa-farah-new-host-1235319329/
JI7
(89,250 posts)betsuni
(25,531 posts)Emile
(22,766 posts)Ratings are in the toilet!
betsuni
(25,531 posts)The liberal toilet? Huh?
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Wanda Sykes Bailed on The View Over Ex-Trump Aide
Frequent The View guest Wanda Sykes was scheduled to appear on the show this past Friday but when her publicist found out that Farah Griffin was co-hosting, the star comedian pulled out, two people with knowledge of the matter told Confider.
She didnt want to be part of helping a Trumper launder her reputation, according to a View insider
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wanda-sykes-bailed-on-the-view-over-ex-trump-aide-alyssa-farah-griffin
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)Anything is better than that harpy. She is a special brand of entitled crazy. I can deal with Farah Griffin.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)Apparently my viewing habits are irritating to many.
betsuni
(25,531 posts)what the hell she was thinking working for Trump, apologized. A person can be wrong without being evil. Anna Navarro is still a Republican, too. It's identity. No one on the show promotes Trump.
In my opinion, trashing "The View" is elitist. I have a feeling most of the viewers are suburban mothers who should be voting for Democrats and that's exactly what the show aims for. Whoopi especially says clearly: It's up to you, it's in your hands, if you can vote you have to vote for those who represent you and that's not Republicans.
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)everybody else's choices are oblivious to one of our Left core principles, free thinking. I monitored LIMBOsevic, O'LOOFAH, yes-Tweety, and others in between those for years. Critical thinking or opposition research. Hostile ideologies can't knead my own beliefs, am not skeered of opposing expressions.
Now, the ones I monitor are those who are not parrots. I cannot abide the ones who are just ideological puppets - Hannity, Ingraham, Levin, etc., who are totally predictable and obtuse. Those only influence the blockhead type of audience. The truly dangerous ones are the "creatively" devious types mentioned above who knowingly master rhetorical, propaganda techniques. There's also the keep friends close & enemies closer.
Some here rail against MAHER and ROGAN, fine. I'm not skeered of those two. I can separate out the parts of them that are incorrect. MAHER gives some valuable constructive criticism and strategizing for our benefit. ROGAN has a lively curiosity about a variety of topics. What is "off" for me about them and all the others, I either refute or just tune out as irrelevant.
*** Our cohorts who attempt to dictate and gate-keep are our version of wanting-to-hear-only-what-we-like, the same as the Faux audiences who are fed what they want to hear.
I even listen to "suburban mothers" despite my not being one - haha!
betsuni
(25,531 posts)Don't know why so many people are obsessed with telling everyone who they hate and that they wouldn't watch that show if they were stranded on a desert island for a hundred years and it was the only show available. Who cares?
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)ago I attended a live taping. My mom and I were so excited to see Whoopi in person. She was so rude the day we were there. First she completely ignored the audience. Put it this way she could not be bothered to wave at us as she exited after the show. She walked away like we were not there. She put the warm up comedian in his place in front of us. If she had a problem with him she should have pulled him aside privately. Thank goodness Sherri Shepherd was still that as host (think it was her final week or two there). She was beyond sweet and that made up for everything. She came out when we were in line and took pictures with everyone. During commercial breaks she made a beeline to the audience. She talked to us (like she knew us) and cracked jokes. Thank goodness Meghan McCain is no longer on the show. I stopped watching while she was on there. Now that there is a Trumpie on the show I definitely will not watch. Should be fireworks with Joy and a Trumpie though..
betsuni
(25,531 posts)and she disappears. That's her personality. Why is that a problem?
No, there won't be "fireworks" because the new host isn't a Trumper.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)betsuni
(25,531 posts)Shy people are often thought arrogant.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)I can't believe that I just read a post from someone saying that a woman must smile.
Shine on, DU, shine on!
edbermac
(15,939 posts)Theyll tee off on her like a piñata.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So I'm not feeling too sorry. That being said, if Griffin can put forward substantive arguments for her point of view, she may earn the respect of the rest of the panel. When McCain got pushback for some asinine statement, she likely as not would complain about how everyone else was treating her, why won't you give me a break, and don't you know who my father was. Even at that, Goldberg or Behar would sometimes take McCain's part and try to rehabilitate her asinine comment into something defensible.
There are substantive discussions to be had on any number of subjects. But everyone needs to bring a coherent argument to the table, not just cant.
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)Ha, your post prompted me to look up her father. She just might be able to bring a coherent argument to the table.
Her father spread right wing conspiracies about birtherism, Vince Foster suicide. He also worked for right wing media newspapers.
he has a wikipedia page if anyone wants to look him up.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)Its the only purposefully all woman political show on television. Its won multiple Emmys and gone through multiple co-hosts. The show intentionally has at least one conservative co-host, which takes it out of the category of simple echo chamber for liberal views, though it clearly and unapologetically has that bias.
Ill note that having the conservative POV has kept the show in the public eye far more than the echo chamber would. Its regularly a subject of debate (read, trolling and outrage) on social media. This is a good thing, and they know it.
The shows aimed at average viewers who have time in the middle of the day. Its got a predictable formula and imo has lost a bit of edge over the years as the idea of edgy has gone over a cliff into rabid.
Im not surprised any more that on DU people often just hit and run rather than actually discuss a topic. Its too bad. But as for me, most of the hosts irritate me at times. Thats good. I think having a former staffer of 45 who no longer supports him is a decent, if controversial idea. I think Wanda Sykes is making a statement and Id bet money shell change her mind if she has a reason to want their publicity for something. Hell, this IS getting their publicity for something.
Theres nothing in media that isnt carefully weighed and calculated. Nothing. Ill continue to see where The View is going. Its good to see women in the lead, in charge, able to take the positive and negative and make that part of the program.
librechik
(30,674 posts)THAT would have been must-see TV.
(JK, everybody)