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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:25 AM Jul 2022

Commentary: Hell no, the right really doesn't want a Christian nation...

"In the justice system, as the Supreme Court and other federal judges hand down decisions that clearly treat people differently based on gender, sexual orientation, race and class, evangelicals who claim to want a Christian nation continue to fight on the side of oppressors. A Christian nation would want a justice system based in compassion and mercy."

https://www.salon.com/2022/07/27/do-right-wing-evangelicals-really-want-a-christian-nation-hell-no/

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Commentary: Hell no, the right really doesn't want a Christian nation... (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jul 2022 OP
Spread the word: they're all Nat-Cs. n/t aocommunalpunch Jul 2022 #1
One Of Mr. Chesterton's Better Lines, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2022 #2
I like that one, Sir. 2naSalit Jul 2022 #3
makes notes. mopinko Jul 2022 #4
+1. yonder Jul 2022 #11
They are not Christian. It drives me nuts seeing them referred to as Christian themaguffin Jul 2022 #5
Onward Christian Soldiers? BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #6
If they aren't Christian, what are they, exactly? Mariana Jul 2022 #10
I don't know, CivicGrief Jul 2022 #15
One can be all those things and be a Christian, too. Mariana Jul 2022 #18
The opposite. Whatever name one wants to use. I call them secular anti-Gospel cultists. themaguffin Jul 2022 #16
The opposite of a Christian is a non-Christian. Mariana Jul 2022 #19
You're missing my point themaguffin Jul 2022 #20
They're just conmen. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #17
Keep Christ in Christianity, CivicGrief Jul 2022 #7
Sorry to bring shocking news, but that Mercy and Compassion meme has always been the supreme myth msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #8
But in history edhopper Jul 2022 #9
As one who was raised in a strict, Reagan era, evangelical environment, I assure you that power and artemisia1 Jul 2022 #12
flawed, archetypal 'No true Scotsman' fallacy-based article Celerity Jul 2022 #13
Well, the Right does not believe that any of us are "Real" Americans.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #21
True, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2022 #23
These Supreme Court justices sure aren't concerned with mercy and compassion. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #14
Everyone wants to see the "best" in their chosen religion/ideology/etc... Caliman73 Jul 2022 #22
Christian Nation ck4829 Jul 2022 #24

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
2. One Of Mr. Chesterton's Better Lines, Sir
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 09:41 AM
Jul 2022



"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and not tried."



Mariana

(14,861 posts)
10. If they aren't Christian, what are they, exactly?
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jul 2022

Are they atheists? Are they secretly followers of some other religion?

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
15. I don't know,
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jul 2022

liars, hypocrites, opportunists, hate-filled sacks of puss, douchebags, slobbering idiots. The list could go on.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
18. One can be all those things and be a Christian, too.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:23 AM
Jul 2022

Christians aren't inherently better people than non-Christians.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
19. The opposite of a Christian is a non-Christian.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jul 2022

So, you think Christians are better people than non-Christians.

Elessar Zappa

(14,084 posts)
17. They're just conmen.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:23 AM
Jul 2022

Sociopaths don’t really believe in anything, religion included. It’s not that they’re atheists, it’s that they’re nothing. They don’t care.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
8. Sorry to bring shocking news, but that Mercy and Compassion meme has always been the supreme myth
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jul 2022

of the MAJORITY of the "Christian Faith"

The minority few who were advocating for "mercy and compassion" can continue through the end times, but the truth is that will never come to be anything more than a mythological meme.



edhopper

(33,635 posts)
9. But in history
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jul 2022

actual Christian nations acted exactly like that. The modern idea that Christian rule is not oppressive, bigoted and racist is not the reality of the past 2000 years.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
12. As one who was raised in a strict, Reagan era, evangelical environment, I assure you that power and
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jul 2022

not grace is their guiding motivation. They do NOT believe in Christianity or Christ at all or they would be incapable of violating Jesus's Golden Rule of "Do unto others...". They delight in being unjust, moralistic (not moral!), controlling, unforgiving and heavy handed.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
21. Well, the Right does not believe that any of us are "Real" Americans....
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jul 2022

So is there really anything wrong with questioning their "Christian" beliefs?

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
23. True, Ma'am
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jul 2022

The persons the author castigates would, in their turn, denounce him as no Christian at all.

I don't intend to press the matter, I've other things to do with my day, but confident expressions of what Jesus would do, usually based on claims he said this or that in a Gospel text, amuse me no end..,.

Caliman73

(11,745 posts)
22. Everyone wants to see the "best" in their chosen religion/ideology/etc...
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jul 2022

Thing is there is no "one" Christianity or "true" Christianity. There are several thousand "traditions" including Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and non-Denominational groups. Each one claims to be the actual tradition of Christ. The Bible, the book upon which all Christian groups say their "one, true" tradition is based, has several versions, with different books included; and in that collection of books, you can find so many contradictions and justifications for things that most today would agree is abhorrent.

Right wingers want THEIR version of Christianity to be the law of the land. You may disagree with that version and think it is illegitimate, but they think the one you follow is likely illegitimate too.

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