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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:19 AM Jul 2022

Justices worry about the future of the Supreme Court -- and point fingers as to who's to blame

By Ariane de Vogue, CNN Supreme Court Reporter

Updated 9:44 AM ET, Fri July 29, 2022



CNN)Limping away from one of the most significant terms in decades, justices are sending out flares expressing concern not only for the future of the Supreme Court but the country as a whole as institutional norms dissolve, tensions rise, and the court pivots right with the addition of three new members.

The justices are mostly on their summer recess now, having left behind a trail of bitter conservative-liberal splits on issues that will reshape how Americans live their lives when it comes to reproductive health, religious liberty, the environment and gun rights.

In those opinions and in public comments, members on both sides of the ideological divide are expressing reservations not about their ability to interact civilly -- but about the court itself and its future.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/29/politics/supreme-court-kagan-sotomayor-barrett-roberts-thomas/index.html

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On Thursday, Barrett suggested that the justices will continue to strive for civility. "It's like a marriage, we have life tenure so we get along and that means you are not going to rupture relationships with people that you are going to be spending your careers with," she said.



NO Amy..... can I call you Amy.....when someone sits in a chair and tells the senators and the American public that they will adhere to precedents.......and then turn right around once they get to sit on bench and overturn rights......that calls for a fucking divorce....

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Justices worry about the future of the Supreme Court -- and point fingers as to who's to blame (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2022 OP
On that note of "life tenure"... Omnipresent Jul 2022 #1
Nazis worried about their legacy maxrandb Jul 2022 #2
You got it. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #5
Exactly! mountain grammy Jul 2022 #11
Well the Nazi's Thousand Year Reich lasted 12 years. Texin Jul 2022 #14
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2022 #15
This court is flawed Casady1 Jul 2022 #3
The real problem with Coney Barret, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch is not Mysterian Jul 2022 #16
She compared it to a marriage? She's fucking tone deaf. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #4
Well Fascist Retrumplicans are running a candidate for Senate in Ohio maxrandb Jul 2022 #10
Piss on the Subversive 6. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #6
People working together should have civility Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #7
what standard? EmmaLee E Jul 2022 #13
I thiink there should be term limits, too. Ilsa Jul 2022 #19
You know, if they actually gave a damn about legitimacy ... Novara Jul 2022 #8
Consigning more than half the population to second class status caused you anxiety? gratuitous Jul 2022 #9
Those who lied to us in their Senate hearings should resign. Immediately. NCjack Jul 2022 #12
no asshole amy Marthe48 Jul 2022 #17
Boo-hoo, Amy. Our next response should be to impose some reality into your rarified air. calimary Jul 2022 #18

Texin

(2,597 posts)
14. Well the Nazi's Thousand Year Reich lasted 12 years.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jul 2022

May the rethug six justices meet with fiery bridge abutment head-ons soon.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
3. This court is flawed
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jul 2022

and the blame goes to McConnell, Trump and the Federalist society. Having a court which is 6-3 regardless of political leanings id destructive to the fabric of our country. All three of these groups care little of our country and only care about power. McConnell is a confederate in his heart and they never wanted to be part of the USA.

Mysterian

(4,591 posts)
16. The real problem with Coney Barret, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch is not
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jul 2022

that they're republicans -- the problem is they are idealogues who are unwilling and unable to rule in an honest and impartial manner. They are the definition of biased, activist judges.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
4. She compared it to a marriage? She's fucking tone deaf.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jul 2022

Barrett, we would never have even made it through the courting stage if it were a marriage. You would have been swiped left once we saw your home page. You are a toxic feature in America.

And if we were married, we would make sure there was a quick divorce that involved emotional support payments for the abuse you put us through.

Marriage? We're thinking of filing restraining orders to keep you out of our social circles.

maxrandb

(15,351 posts)
10. Well Fascist Retrumplicans are running a candidate for Senate in Ohio
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jul 2022

That claims folks would be better off if they stay in an abusive and violent marriage.

Since it's the handmaiden talking about it being like a marriage, has anyone asked her which justices are supposed to be the subservient ones to their husbands, or is that just a given?

Buckeyeblue

(5,501 posts)
7. People working together should have civility
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jul 2022

It's the idea of the Supreme Court that I think is broken. They aren't transparent. They are held to zero ethical standards. Of course they can be impeached but that's such a far fetched proposition it's not even worth discussing.

There is nothing in the constitution that says congress can't impose strict regulations on the Supreme Court. I think along with expanding the court, we need strict regulations.

For instance, SC justices should not be able to take gifts or money from special interests groups. Elected representatives get around this by taking campaign donations. The SC doesn't have to run for reelection, so they aren't entitled to bribes. All justices should have to publicly disclose any money they make (this includes spousal income and any money you are given by family). And if your spouse is part of a special interest group, you have to recuse if that group has any stake in a particular case.

It's an honor to be on the SC and because of that you are held to a high standard of ethics.

EmmaLee E

(170 posts)
13. what standard?
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jul 2022

As I recall, the Supreme Court is the only court in the land that has NO CODE OF CONDUCT.
Thomas can sit on any case, even those with a clear conflict of interest. Nobody to hold him to account for anything.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
19. I thiink there should be term limits, too.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jul 2022

RBG had the ability to identify with, relate to, and be empathetic towards others, even very young people. "You've never been a thirteen year old girl," she told one of her fellow justices who didn't think strip searching that girl was a big deal.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
8. You know, if they actually gave a damn about legitimacy ...
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jul 2022

... they would be bending over backwards NOT to overturn the fucking precedents they are now overturning.

So spare me the faux concern. You all are doing exactly what you were put there to do. You saw the extreme partisanship even before you were confirmed and you had absolutely no qualms taking the job, eager to tear America apart, law by law, precedent by precedent.

FUCK YOU.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Consigning more than half the population to second class status caused you anxiety?
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:16 AM
Jul 2022

Oh, you poor dears. Americans won't let you oppress people in peace. So very sad!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. Those who lied to us in their Senate hearings should resign. Immediately.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jul 2022

Next, they could write books that explain how it came about that they lied and conclude with heart-felt apologies.

Marthe48

(17,018 posts)
17. no asshole amy
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jul 2022

Nobody wants to stay married to a lying cheat, a chronic alcoholic or a lying cheat. It isn't a marriage you pos on wheels, it is the U.S.A. and you don't have a clue how to rule on law or any other human activity.

calimary

(81,459 posts)
18. Boo-hoo, Amy. Our next response should be to impose some reality into your rarified air.
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jul 2022

TERM LIMITS.
NO LIFETIME APPOINTMENTS. (Yup, that means all of YOU.)
ACCOUNTABILITY. Judicial reviews at regular intervals.
NULLIFICATION OF RECENT RULINGS, starting with your destruction of Roe v. Wade.
INDEPENDENT CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW of ALL speaking engagements and other appearances that are 1) for pay and 2) by invitation from political groups whose bias must be screened in advance. Such invitations must be provably neutral, politically.

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